Show CLOUTS AND TAKEN BY TO TOM RYAN l Famous Pugilist and Champion Trainer Tells Some Sonic Experiences STARTED FIGHTING EARLY I I Only II St's Sc l' l lie le 1 Ic Beal m Big in imm I mui ai 1011 Ca Camps tI II I Jr Hits Crack at nt Tommy nyan humus has u been in the lie the fighting long bug enough to regard ti views low Interviewers o oh h the lie blasl blase air all of or a Il ma in iu uma mi donna In hi II her third sea sea- Ila- Ila son on says E. E C. C Cun Van un Loan In 1 im the he l Los LO o 1 time The m II lit ht of ofA A mote mote- ook cLe not nut give j Tommy a t lie ms laM seen Heen them before heon lit lie le should u mm I wok look entitled Interviews Made Maie Bas Easy I I suppose ou fou want te tc know how old L I ama am lie hue II hewn briskly I I am nun iJ 35 years year Id M and amid all I 1 am ani probably tie youngest out old nan In imi the worM You omi see cc ee 1 have hn e been Leen rj Good Gool was smas 17 1 to wow about 10 how bow J 1 came to get tret unto into Ibis justness Go ns UH far fil as Ut you like lIe IQ Well ell elI you OU J I M.-C M. ran away from moult hoiu when I was v a small boy It ho-It tt out Olt list like hike all those other oilier stories dont don't it I it It Il aint time the same because U Its It's uhf dif you oum sec and see and 1 r out omit Olt West How no nofa fa far I West cst 01 Oh Toledo That runt wn va rel Sicily flett far fur West Vest for rOI a u klu kh from Syracuse e nt It I i i an aim 11 suit of oC a acid I cid I with a n mince e ut wih t complexion you you now mow one ouie of or those these white laces races like u mu utile I tile the Ile flower fowel In the time sure no 10 chiding I WH was On time tle level low mow You know w you omi eJ got gut to 10 be he n u hl le with some ome pt yes and anti yes where whelo was I r 1 With Wih the tho 11 Huskies Oil Oh yes In Toledo Well Vel time they vera j a i Hint was to inn aWi away In Michigan Ihlan the up UI thc T. T tumid and V. A. It I was I J wu only about H lu yea it old mil md delicate atc at IL that and 1 I couldn't sling I s-f s r L U I got Gal U IL iou Jol as m miter boy We t e got nil umi Il th thie le to Michigan n Mi mu 1 the ito deep the l lInch lumber camps vere verc un and tind ut IS nights there here is sir sir- 81 ring rIm Tho men mel built big cam fires Cres af titter p r lark und then lien the would wrestle and anil ox and Jump to lo see se ce which was Wa wa the ibe best nan The ne In lii those days wa wasn't hat It Il 1 V now Tho hose c were ti die uio di d' d s s of oC tight kin hC gloves Io and ty m mum I time the 11 ring The rho only only idea Ilca was wai to give gl punishment lot ml to lo avoid it Well the eil time the little litile li e I. I water 10 boy stuck luc around ind Ild wa watched clued t those 1 Ln bir lumbermen wal- wal aping u I hall had mc J a mm little a as a ild tid and mind 1 1 Ulu thought ht I 1 was waa Nely at mit lt mt-ivi mt from tie the tw haul baud HI One Ow Tight I ht I I van sao H U in to tt Pat tann n the fore fore- nan iman of o our r gong gutig lt 10 to ut tIt on th tug cloves S lo with wih Ionic iome et of fr f lh these je c fellows lows f A Gt alt out mi t says f ya 1 Pat lut guys 1 g l I A Atoo 00 too hl big mind and fa far I too luo rough for Cor e rc m me inc s on son They'd k kS mU ye yc- ThIs Dil rou b business 8 lont suit sult u r my t tyle Je I argued I 1 ft l generally makes cm u me mc That's the lie way I fi ht All 1 r rJ ht lien says say al Pat Pal Its Is you 01 hal going o lo to got ecu t bun not hun not me mC Go on inn ind mr get JC your fool J knocked of off That ht I got cot ot n a. 1 h bj 1 pound ISO muscle bound bound giant Glunt named Jack Lynch to I out Jt tut the the little little gloves on 01 with me 1 He lie was ime cham mn l of eif out our cam cam It I was wal an nn 1 am with hm that imm that boxing with mc nIc moO He tie I facing I 1 wont won't hurl you OU kid Slug as hard hardas as mis you II I like ke lem Learned Famous Crouch u That hut night Yeas v wal when I l 11 the lie crouch Io eh taught K and Ill I'll Il bet het bett hett t wa seas the first tun tunI I was ever el c seen in tImo countr Up Um there In the time lull tull 11 pines Mich Ih H It I wa was Well ell a ay tay thia h big couldn't lilt lift mo roe Jl with a f h pole poi Prel Pretty soon soomi I t began lean lo to Ill him himon himon on the till nO nOse nofe e and that made macic ae him hll mad He lIe le tried to rush ruah me mc for forgot ot nil ni about m my ben be- be ng n about ahou C fifty f J lighter than he lie wa was He lie le tred tried to knock m my off or and every e time he lie cume In in I Just Jabbed him hint good and arid plenty and time the railroad gang gan didn't know now what to lo make muke of ort t t. t nut But they used to 0 load me le onto n a handcar und and take tak me along th the Uric line li lilo to lo the Ibe other camps camp just to see ee mo me box with lh that tho best men menon menon on the line of the time road I 1 was the time ong- ong origInal Inal irma child wonder that's what I was One day a follow came ulon and ta asked me mc If I would fight rt a fellow named Dick England at cit Ct Lake Cut City II I wasn't bailing bat bal ling anybody s ao o I said alt all ul right V t Ve agreed to for W J a side bide tlde and the gate Jale 1 Kv nY ry railroad man bet rr l every coin uit I on nn n nil nil- n i mind nd nl r the rhe hl b bet het t ther thor on England The railroad men thought th they were going to spring me mc as a a. 0 ringer aud Lc 11 It I I turned t that thiat the other fellow was WIS a i too He lie lt was un an old oll lighter and rind a mighty Oe oie ome I was JI y n 17 1 then und and be lie warf wn an old timer amidI and amid I 1 ho hi ht hi a lot tot 0 of ol weight on me We Vc wen well ant 1 to ti to to a th kid gloves with I 1 t the he fingers cut oft off I 11 Stunt mit mu mue ell i Say day u that was WI he bc r first l me 1 I ver vur 1 saw a w u a sidestep I felt fell down about a dozen limes before 1 I got col Ol nto onto t t. t Id I'd Iu maliC make m a D Iun h ro o o- o him hr anti and he lie wouldn't iu be Il there But f r was as him ml miss me mc too ant and after three thirty rounds I knocked him o ou O l l 1 i worked sm time iho crouch jn In him LC That rhal mm was iS mis the time first time hc hed he'd ever lr e seta a crouch cruch so o we L' were even cl C I closed his left lef ll et amid Hn kept kepi on easy lUY his blind Id ld after aler that thai ant and ant be lie a was That monc money came so 10 easy al that thai I 1 took look r ht lo to life life- same hi Jim earmest arle 1 and aHI 1 J w is I 1 ht ii Danny time the cham champion llon at ul I 1 nV BYe Hours 11 f f e e wo W VO and at mit last lasi IunI I Jabbed him out oui wIth 1 my left len hand and Thui was an awful f fight ht six seventy rounds Marquis g of or rules m ull two ounce gloves Both Boli of oC I us were BO so tO tired at tle limes that wo we had to lo le lean m up imp against each cach lJ ether Tho Those c were the lie ua days 8 when wien fighting fight fight- n log ing ml might hl ha have been lucen n rightly considered brutal Now Nom 0 it I isn't an any more than a n question of cleverness condition and en en- en durance ft ference Those bg hg gloves make malio the tIme Mysterious J BI Hilly Tough I The toughest fight I 1 over o hind had wa was with wih 1 Mysterious Billy Hilly Smith My t oh oh my nimy I there hero was the he fellow who could do 10 stuff lo o you vou In the ring Sa Say what he lie didn't Know knots w iO l rOI h work wasn't want n n time the lok and amid Ut I 1 was v Ih the first firul l fishier mm who Ito 10 reI really re- re I ally boat hemi a I him bun What hiitt would you ou think of or ora 1 L C fishier who shio hl lilt you In iii time windpipe fo su o you 01 couldn't shut shUl your our mouth for fOl ten len rounds Going sumo some hc hey Well cl limits that's what whal he hr did bill to lo me 1 I though h I 1 was v surely sure sure- sure I ly 1 going to lo t de e for fOI a while Mysterious BI Billy Ic knew more strange e eway ways s way 0 oi or hurting a C fighter In the time clutches clinches and he lie a new one on me trio He lie le had bud budan hadan nf an awful beard imst Just as stiff us its lS a piano win win- am aim he tie le came cammie cale into i I Ih the lie ring looking like a n shepherd dog In time face lace honest honest he lie hadn't shaved for fOI a week lh TIme The first lr l we ac WI came caune In Into to a clinch be lie poked his bis stubbly chum chin Into my eye and II it I clear ar around J I If f Id I'd haul had hil 1 my e eye e open c I wouldn't have one now After nel flee that limit 1 I hul my nay eyes every vry time we c clinched and u.-rems' u. VJ time hed he'd rub Till away at mit 1 me mime with his bis whiskers Another nice trick he lie had was wa 10 to tic te Ins hits Ils gloves Io on with wih Jon long strings s with WIh four Cour hard d knots in them one 01 right Ii j i top lop lOJ of oC the other and und then hed he'd hel rub ru that hut big knot II up and down time Hie stile side of pur heat head Ive I've had lual har a lot lol of things t happen hap hap- pen pet lo to me that didn't ddn t hurt that hut bad had Ill I'll JI promise jou It I us mused d lo to tickle me so to tot see mist t him tr trying to lo do alt all al this lila to lo me mel ind iatI l 1 not eln being able ahle to lo land hand that thal tat 1 I had haul co 0 stand awa away assay front from rom him so u 1 I could coull laugh I lie le Fe was wal awfully annoyed because I 1 licked him hmm I think hunk he lie was wn the greatest pound C fishier that thai ever cr lived hived What me e W el I 1 aint m myself cJ un any carnations hut hilt Its It's IK nil all al In the Lime record I fought him seven cn lIH times 1 I knocked him hUn ort oat once nce n In loom four fOI rounds took 1001 two decisions deci dei- lCj sons skins gut got ut th three lra draws WI u ant and nl once there them was no nu decision on given one given one of or those things you ou know Yes ime hI was wms a wonderful fighter fihler all 1 right hut but ruih I up JI Ul the tie record und miami draw your OUI own conclusions Cn Craig Hud 1111 CI Worst Punch TIme The hardest wallop J 1 ever CI got goot In In- my 1 life Craig gave c a It Jt to tu mo limO lie Il was the time Harlem Coffer Coffee Cooler Cooler mi a hi big darkey that stood l nerl nearly six feet reel tall tal He lie went o over to l England and timid d their middle and mil heavyweight hea champions and amid became time the big 11 timing thing over 0 there I didn't lo to ficht him nt nl all al but lut they fixed j time the match up and td he lie came caine Into In time tie nn rung ring 5 caz the Union Jack with British l loui Ion on It amid it-amid I and him u a 1 native of or Harlem Time The announcer Introduced him as mis the celebrated Coffee Cooler from Harlem and he r raised an awful howl bowl cc No o suh lh be lie says not oot Harlem London Ln Lon Lon- dorm don sub uh lon And Ard Ant you ought to have t ha heard the time other oth- oth er cr coons roust rOlt him hm for foi ihal Most of em em m bad been bee rah ll with wih him and they couldn't stand tand Co tom for him switching his hh home hom scum th time the ponc pond Vell el ell It wile was In II the thi the second round I Iol got ol It It I was stepping out of or a clinch and be lie let 70 o o one of or those t horrifiC rl right hl Il I me rue nU over O C the ear car el and down 1 I went 1 J thought ht the time roof hail had fell cli In II or something I 1 got ot up Just JUll U us the Jhc man tai said euld Nine I know where I 1 was o but I 1 d to Iu advance ud ance nm my rigl right I fool loot Instead of I my left len a anti and 11 when he stepped In with another might light swing J I shifted my f foot ft-ct ct and ami whang right ight In Inthe tIme the ll stomach ant my mv left lef And the champion champon of or told me nw H afterward that thai ho he never nc got gOl such a punch In his life ICe I beat Mm hIm In ten len rounds Now u Wants alts Crack Cluck at lad lack Yes es Ite been heen around a u lull hit I K guess Im I'm 11 about the time only fighter now In iii time the f game who had a private before King Edward He Lie He- He wasn't king then lien out but buthe lut luthe he wanted lo to see sec ge me and and well 1 I wanted to see sec him But Bitt I aint proud jiroud All Al I want I Is Ol one good crack cluck at thai limit dear Jack JucH OBrien Ill I'll have to lo give him u a little tI weight ht but hut I think I can cnn do It It That ought to 10 mali make thue verest co fight In time tho tholas last decade las decade He Ife Il jumps und and I 1 glide public will wi have a n chance to 10 judge between be Lie- tween the time two tso styles of oC clever er c boxing |