Show STILL T t RAILROAD RATES j Knox's Arraignment of Hepburn Hepburn Hep Hep- burn Bill on Constitutional Constitutional Constitutional I Grounds r. r SELLING OF If INDIAN DIA J LANDS LANDSI I a f Sean Senators mrs Generally Against l Allowing ln ug i. i I Th Them to Full Fiill Under Rail Rail- v S i road Control S March Washington March ThIs This was railroad anti in Ute the senate nate an I day V- V k J Tho The existence n e of t evil and methods for tor their pr prevention or amelioration were the two topics under discussion and ih they y were based upon a ft variety of or subS sub- sub S r. r t JL 1 Air Mr lr Tillman Demo Democrat tat South Cari Car- Car i alma the ardent advocate advocate I j cate te presented his dally daily contribution 4 S. S t to tf the mass of t testimony which h hS he heh S h has already submitted particularly o or of orl and VIr Vir- l S abuses in Pennsylvania West Yest gina This time it ft was the thc latter state t i. that his contribution referred to a His re n ii of oC inquiry to ascertain V from the interstate commerce commis- commis 1 s ion sjon whether any arrangement bet between be- be t 1 tween companies and corporations corpora corpora- lions and newspapers whereby trans trans- S. S was given In exchange e for 1 services or 01 advertising was illegal was r r agreed to without debate y Mr MI Knox formerly attorney gen cn- cn 7 s oral delivered his maiden speech In a powerful constitutional arraignment S of ot the Hepburn rate bill but advocated tho the enactment of oC legislation that would r regulate Interstate carriers Mr Lodge Lodo of or Massachusetts offered an amendment bringing within the i scope of the commission all pipe lines hues i. i t. t Should Have Ilave State Charters i Mr Ir Daniel of West cst Virginia b by an ani i amendment gave notice tI that Rt he hc would S press pi-ess as a separate provision pro o of the f bill the enlargement of or the employers employers' S liabilities law and Ind Mr fr Elkins of West ost S Virginia will strive to have common 1 prohibited from engaging In coal and oil business except when those rights are specifically granted by state charters O The rho days day's se session sion wound up In Jn an IIi m assault upon a movement which which'S S 'S sought to empower the secretary of the interior to lease or sell lands belonging belonging be be- longing to Indian tribes In Indian Territory Territory Ter Ter- 0 I and valued at several billion dollars Mr Mi La Follette opposed the movement Mr Tillman Tiliman In supporting the Wisconsin Wis cousin senator urged the government to bu buy the coal lands hands to protect the farmers of that section of or the countr country I 4 from irom extortion Mr lr Spooner the senior senator from Wisconsin gave his support to lo lothe the contention that railway corporations corporations corpora corpora- should be prevented from acquirIng acquiring acquiring ing any rights in the lands hands in the ter ter- ter- ter ns Pr fr Vi r r j t coner conferees conferees' es' es report on The e 1 live e I tribes bill Mr Mt La Folletto claimed that the thc lands hands were worth over five billion dollars one-fourth one of oC the capItalized capItalized capitalized cap cap- value of oC all the railways InS in inthe S the country he be said and he hold hol that the senate should exercise great caulion caution cau cat y tion lion before providing for the disposition disposition tion lion of or them 1 Leasing Same Slime as ns Selling t.-S t. He declared that the fact had been lost sight of that leasing would be equivalent to selling for tor the leasing S period covered sufficient time for fOI the 5 full working of the minerals He said he did not wish to reflect upon the 1 interior department but h he had no faith in some of its subordinates s. s He r declared that the railways in that terI terr territory ter ter- ter- ter r I had a a. combination that gave them complete dictation of oC the prices S of or coal and he asked that If the senate senate senate sen sen- ate disagreed with him hInt to have at least stipulated that no leases be made directly or 01 Indirectly to nn any railroad company Mr 11 Tillman Timan charged that S t the e fuel supply of the entire entre territory I would practically be in control of the theS S railroads He expressed the tho belief th that t they were just as energetic In inSI 1 SI- SI pursuing the policy of acquiring the tho t remaining coal lands hands S 'S While we are the tho guardians of or the Indians he exclaimed we arc are also alsoe e f the guardians of the white men and we should see to It that the farmers I In that country do have hae their thel fuel supply of or years tied ted up Ut S He said sad he did not approve of o 1 turning Secretary Hitchcock loose on r I these lands S. S In reverting to the statement ment of or Mr i L S La L Follette that one half of oC the territorial territorial ter ter- ter- ter t f I leases were held by tho the railroads mi- mi rail rail- roads he exclaimed much to the amazement of oC th the senate I f Willing to Make Wager cr rf jf S Ill Il ii bet bet no I cant can't bet het here here but but I I Id I'd Id be he willing to put up money that i 1 the majority of all al these leases a ats at is in inthe S the hands of the railroads and that cl I the people are as helpless as In West w. w Virginia lnla f k I 1 I Mr 11 La Ul Follette I Follette r I had reference I to the working lenses leases leses I have indisputable indis i proof that unworked unwed leases lease A are In the power of the railroads s t. t Id Id bet you therell there'll he be something c- c doing said sid Tillman If there is another another an an- other coal strike and the Ute people are rr unable to get set sufficient fuel with v- v which to keep keel keel themselves warm i. i 2 S Mr Spooner could see no occasion r I for haste In the tho sale or lease of 01 the mineral minerai lands landl He said sold they would would'S S 'S j I assuredly Increase o in v value lue each ech year A S 'S Ho He declared they should not be he permitted per per- to fall fal Into tho the control of the J I railroads tV Mr Clapp of Minnesota wanted to j S know If congress could provide a practical heal plan to lo keep leep the lands from common common com corn mon Inon carriers I think It I cn can replied Mr Spoon- Spoon J or or el If It I can cn not then them tho lands Jand should not be disposed of oC I a Mr MI Teller Tener of oC Colorado took the S same po position S The rho conference report was then withdrawn for reconsideration I In 11 his speech on the tIme rate bill bi Mr h I r Teller spoke spoke for almost two hours houri I Ho Ic was not Interrupted At his conclusion conclusion conr con con- r ho was warmly congratulated r f h by a score pore of senators |