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McNeal said the oxygen masks had to be worn in the small Piper-Navajo because of the altitudes at which they were flying. "It's a challenge, particularly going over the Uintas in the winter," he said. "You're dropping over 1,000 feet per minute.' McNeal stopped flying in 2003 after he was forced to turn in his medical certificate after suffering a heart attack. He said he misses Hying, but his military service is still evident in his everyday life. "It taught me to be kind of meticulous," he said. "It fits science." And he said he expects the same from his students. "I think there's a time for respect." He said he's strict about cell phones and has no tolerance for any kind of cheating. "If I cheated in my flying experiences that wouldn't be good; I could crash and kill people." "But I retain room for humor," he added. "I have a saying, 'That which we learn pleasantly, we retain.'" Retired Gen. Mike Pavich, the president of the Space Dynamics Lab, said he agrees that military service-in his n 1 1USU Gymnastics vs. Boise St. TOMORROW NIGHT 6:30 PM Dee Glen Smith Spectrum lor more information, contact the 1,'lah State Ticket Office at 797-0305. www.UtahStateAggies.com Think International... case, 29 years in the Air Force-can permanently affect performance in other arenas. "Part of the military is learning leadership capabilities, people management skills, interpersonal relations, motivation techniques, mission accomplishment, pursuit of excellence," he said. "If you are successful doing that in the military, those things carry over." Pavich graduated from the sixth graduating class of the U.S. Air Force Academy and flew 100 tactical reconnaissance missions over North Vietnam during the war. He also served as a squadron commander during the Cold War. He said his most rewarding military experience came during that time, when his 62nd Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron flew 62 training missions in 11 hours. He said the difficulty and accomplishment of the task were amazing. "That was a very rewarding experience," Pavich said. "The morale of the organization at the end of that was very high." He said he demands and receives the same level of efficiency now at his post at the SDL. "I find the same kind Putrid Oden/poden.a ccusu.edu of dedication at the Space JOHN MCLAUGHUN, AN ASSOCIATE professor in the English department, said his time in the Army Dynamics Lab and USU National Guard gave him a new perspective on teaching. He said he runs his (lasses pass/fail Research Station to mission because that's the way it is in the Army. accomplishment. Its very parallel," Pavich said. they said in the '60s to what posed surge. And though their military this administration says now." "We have a situation in experience has shaped the McLaughlin said one of his Iraq that needs to be resolved men in the way they live their biggest concerns is that the to the benefit of the United lives, they are of independent Guard and Reserve forces are States and our national interopinions when it comes to not being used for their origi- ests," Pavich said. "Now, there President Bush's proposal to nal purpose, which is to help is debate over what those increase troops in Iraq. in emergencies. interests are, perhaps. The McLaughhn said he's been "The Iraq invasion was not people that are in charge havt against the war from the the responsibility to deteran emergency," McLaughlin beginning and is against the mine what is going to be done said. "They're being treated surge. He said he wrote a to achieve those national like active duty troops. The letter to the Ogden Standard- system is being abused." interests." Examiner six months before McNeal said he also feels Pavich, whose son served the war K H H . ^ ^ ^ that his a tour in the Air Force in began, former Afghanistan and may be opposing the branch, redeployed to Iraq, said invasion of the Air recent criticism ot the Iraq. Force, planned surge from both par"I basicalhas not ties in Congress is "purely ly said, 'If we "I have a great deal of respect been used political." invade Iraq, properly "Nobody has offered a betit s going to for our comrades over there. in the war ter solution," Pavich said. "I be Vietnam I think I learned the old duty, in Iraq. support the fact that the presin the sand,'" ident of the United States has McLaughlin honor, country thing. It's a the authority to command "I would said. "I saw like to see military operations. The rest brotherhood, and now it's a sisit as a kid of the country'just needs to them in in Vietnam; terhood too" get over it." Iraq use every week a little All three men said they Lyle McNeal, more, we're going support the troops, regardless to send animal science professor maybe, of their positions on the war 20,000 and the surge. World more troops, War II "I have a great deal of and that's going to solve the sense," McNeal said, which respect for our comrades over problem?" he defines as letting the mili- there," McNeal said. "I think He said his feelings about tary run the military. They I learned the old duty, honor, Iraq should not be confused haven't used the Air Force country thing. It's a brotherwith the war in Afghanistan. properly over there. I think hood, and now its a sister"Afghanistan was perthey could have used the Air hood too." fectly justified. Those were Force to save some of the "They're doing their job," the people that bombed the ground force. McLaughlin agreed. "This World Trade Center. We had "I guess I don't support isn't about the troops. And I a clear mission," he said. the surge, not knowing what think that's one positive thing "Afghanistan is the War on they're going to do with it," we learned from Vietnam. Nc Terror. Iraq is George Bush's McNealsaid. "I would like to matter how messed up the personal cowboy." see a little more responsibilgovernment is, no matter how "This war had no end ity on the Iraq government. I messed up the policy is, we plan," McLaughlin said. "Its keep thinking what we need don't blame the soldiers." just this pie-in-the-sky, estab- is a Gen. Patton." After all, they were the sollish democracy and the Iraqis Pavich, however, was diers once. will govern themselves. You unwilling to criticize the pro-jenbeasley@cc.u$u.edi could copy and paste things Speak Up • CAUGHT From page 7 I can contribute whether it's to new soldiers of citizens that come in. There are things that I can contribute. There are things that I've learned. US: What is your favorite part of being a professor? ary 1,2007 10:00am tol:00pm International/ Sunburst Lounge, TSC 2nd Floor USU Study Abroad www.usu.edu/stdyabrd 797-0601/1253 Messmer: To see the students grow and to see them change in terms of their abilities to deal with different situations and to become successful. That's probably the greatest thing about being a university professor and a military commander. You can see that growth. You can pay back some of the people who helped you along the way. Anyone who achieved anything had someone help in the background, US: You own the Orange Julius in the mall, too. How did you get involved with that? Messmer: I have five children. My wife and I realized that with their busy lives, we needed something to not only employ them but would also give us the chance to work with them. Growing up I lived on a farm. I worked with my brothers and sisters and father and there was some interaction on the farm that made the farm successful. My wife and I wanted something that could do that - that could employ our children. We could work with them in an atmosphere where we could create work ethic. We looked and looked and lo and behold, we saw an ad in The Herald Journal about the store. We investigated it and thought, "Let's try it." For the last five years it has employed our children and their friends. The interesting thing about an Orange Julius business is its kind of like the dairy farm without the cows. You always have to be there. There's always going to be something that goes wrong. When I was deployed everything went wrong. I was deployed to Iraq in 2003, and my wife ran the store for about 15 months. US: In your free time what do you like to do? Messmer: I have some friends I like to go hunting with. I've taken my son hunting too. I have a daughter who plays soccer in California, and we like to go out there. When I have free time I like to do things with my family like skiing and other things on that line. I also enjoy reading. US: What animals do you hunt? Messmer: I'm going to put my family in for big game hunts this year. I've taken my daughters small game bird hunting. -mnewbold@cc.usu.edu |