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Show JV Salt Lake Tribune, Thursday, May 21, 1973 Lawyer Denies Suggesting McCord Blame CIA for Watergate ontinaed From Page One b and Chilean embassies, Aleh said McCord claims he made the calls, identifying himslef as a Watergate defendant, tn an effort to have the government div C is occurring. he said My loyalties, especially to the President of the Cmted States, overruled those considerations The committee recessed its fourth day of televised hearings until 10 a m Thursday after Alch read tus statement. He will be questioned then by the seven senators on the committee. dose wiretaps Alch said he planned to use thp defense of duress which holds that an illegal act can be condoned if it prevents a greater harm and said flatly that McCord's assertions he wanted to blame tlie operation on the CIA was absurd and completely untrue gree on Duress Anthony T. ITasewicz, the former New York City policeman who was Caulfield's with McCord, also said he knew his actions were illegal But he said he assumed the messages he passed to McCord came from the White House "At no time did ! suggest to Mr CIA defense McCord that the be utilized, for the deien.se of 'duress had already been agreed upon." Alch said merely asked him whether or not there was a factual basis for this contention, Alch said Mr. McCord's allegation that I announced my ability to forge his CIA personnel records with the cooperation of then acting CIA Director James K. Schlesinger, is absurd and completely No such statement was ever untrue made. ... Watergate on TV Salt Lake City's three commercial television stations. KL'TV, Channel 2, KCPX, Channel 4. and KSL, Channel 5, will present uve coverage of the Senate Watergate Hearings Thursday, beginning at 8 a m.t local time, until conclusion Channel 7, KUED, said taped coverage will begin Thursday at 8 p.m., local time, until conclusion. ... In my mind. 1 cated into this matter felt that the President probably did know It crossed my mind that about it this conceivably was for the President. I believed it. I had to think about that. And based upon all of that background, I believed 1 was doing something for the President of the United States and I did it, sir. ... D-- Caulfield told the committee had no personal knowledge that the offer of executive clemency to McCord had come from President Nixon. Nixon reiterated Tuesday he made no such authorization. Q What did you conceive 4 Watergate - that to be at the time? A. Well, sir, m my mind I believed that he was talking about the President. Q. Did you, when you reached that impression, question Mr. Dean any further about it0 Caulfield, who left his White House job in March 1972 to go to the Treasury Department, said he knew the offer he relayed to McCord was illegal when he made it in January, dunng the trial Tw o on . No sir A AM and 1948. Shortly after Pearl Harbor in 1941 he volunteer for U.S. Army duty and flew as a bombardier in police in Trial At the time McCord and G. Gordon Liddy were standing tnal on charges of conspiracy, burglary and wiretapping in the June 17 breakin at Democratic Party Witnesses Slated tored the Watergate wiretap from a room in the nearby Howard Johnsons motel. He savs he delivered transcripts of Democrats conversations to the campaign committee before the Watergate arrests. Bernard L. Barker, 55, a former CIA employe, was the leader of the five men seized at the Watergate breaking. He pleaded guilty and was sentenced to a provisional maximum term of 40 years. An American born in ruba, he served in the Cuban national (AP) These are the witnesses scheduled to testify Thursday in the Senates Watergate investigation: Gerald Alch, 40, attorney for James W. McCord Jr., during the Watergate wiretapping trial. Boston born and educated and an Air Force veteran, he has been with the law firm of Bailey, Alch and Gill for six years. Alfred C. Baldwin III, 36, ex-Fagent and former Marine Corps captain, who moni Caulfield said when he was asked by Dean, a former superior, to deliver the I am becoming further imph- message. Caulfield said he did not ask for and was not offered immunity from prosecution for his testimony Caulfield repeated earlier testimony that he was acting as a reluctant messenger in the clemency offers for John W Dean III, who was White House counsel at the time. Dean was fired by the President April i!0 You mentioned that Mr. Dean had instructed sou to say that it comes from way up at the top? Sen. Joseph MonM , asked toya, A Yes sir Believed It Was Nixon 1 WASHINGTON Caulfield had said he thought he was doing a great service for the President in contacting McCord, and he was asked about his findings I hud come from a rather humble background, a police officer, he said. T did receive this great opportunity to serve on the Presidents staff. I felt very strongly about the President, extremely strongly about the President ! knnw when wrongdoing 1947 0 Why all this secrecy when, as you have stated, it was just to convey your Inouye sympathies to Mr. McCord? asked. Were you afraid the phones were being tapped? Caulfield replied "To have spent a career in security work as I have, and as Mr. McCord, it certainly occurred to me sir had, that any conversations taking place over Mr. McCords home telephone conceivably could have been the subject of some type of wiretapping by either governmental parties or other people who were concerned about Mr. McCord. On Tuesday, Caulfield had described ... western Reaction among to Europeans Wednesday President Nixons statement denying any advance knowledge of the Watergate bugging and promising to remain in office ranged from surprise to for columnist Paris-Matc- magazine and commentator n Luxembfor Radio-Televisio- ourg. applause to boredom. I find it boring and nearly reverberations given The Schlesinger Denies Plea To Doctor CIA Records -WASHINGTON (UP1) CIA Director James Schlesinger denied Wednesday that he limit the Watergate investigation for reasons of national security. Sen. Henry M. Jack-sosaid, I dont see how there could be any national security issue in WaAnd Sen. Stuart tergate. had ever been approached to doctor the records of Watergate conspirator James McCord to make it appear hz was a CIA agent at the time of the burglary of Democratic headquarters. said it was Symington. more a case of national embarrassment than a case of national security. Schlesinger told newsmen he knew nothing about McCords assertion that the White House At Least Overzealous Schlesinger said prior to his meeting with the Senate Armed Services Committee that Nixon's aide had been at least overzealous" in carrying out the President's directives to keep the CIA operations and other secrets from being exposed in the investigation was trying to pin blame for the entire episode on the CIA as late as last December. Dean Only One He insisted that the only approach to him by the White House was from ousted presidential counsel John W. Dean III, who wanted the CIA to withdraw records the agency had furnished to the Justice Department for the Watergate investigation. The CIA refused Dean's request. Schlesinger and his deputy, Lt. Gen. Vernon Walters, testified separately behind close d doors before Senate committees investigating attempts fo involve the CIA in the Watergate case. There were these developments both with Two senators access to government secrets Iresident Nixon said he had tried to keep from being challenged Nixon's' exposed claim that it was necessary to Symington suggested that the late FBI Director J Edgar Hoover refused to cooperate with White House efforts to expand nernal security investigations, not out of pique at the CIA, but because he felt the White House plan might bo unethical, illegal and unconstitutional." Walters told newsmen, folr appearance lowing a before the Senate appropriations subcommittee on intelligence, he did not know whethtwo-hou- er Watergate had compromI would hope ised the CIA. for the sake of the United States it has not Tribune Telephone Number. Do you need information, want sports scores. Have a news story or feature you want to talk your paper missing? l)o you want to a classified or display advertisement? about? 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I support a thorough investigation of the Watergate scandal but I fed it is high time to stop spreading rumors about the President." common-lookin- THURSDAY & FRIDAY 9 TO 9 SATURDAY 9 f o 6 SUNDAY 10 to 5 Agnew An editorial in Wednesdays London Financial Times said-- . . . yet the question of whether or not Mr. Nixon remains in office had, in a sense, become of secondary beside the far importance larger question of whther the United States is to be governed by an executive able to exercise its authority for the next four years, or whether the leading nation of the western world Is to be a lame duck. like any laid citizen, something in the right place and walked out and that would have been the end of it Caulfield, he said, reassured him if this ever comes out. I will definitely admit that I asked you to do this, and I .U. 52 Di...n . 52 latfn-- Elevate A. He would have walked m decent 52 . - brrfisintf 52 I li.plat . 52 Friendship Basis Another Question have walked in with an army, would he have walked in with identification papers, serially numbered $1(10 bills, and an address book? Q. If he wouldn't ONLY the Watergate affair seem to be the revenge of the press against a man who had badly treated it Nixon was correct to say he will not a andon his position, Cartier said. 521-281- 0 unla il A Well, I tell you, no retired man in the New York police department would become involved in a thing like that. And if he thought he had to, for whatever reason it was, he wouldnt have walked in with an army. Later, he said Caulfield asked him to give McCord a message suggesting he plead gudty, that his family would be taken care of and that he would get a job after leaving pnson. Ulasewicz said Caulfield called him I from San Clemente and told hl.n wouldn't ask anyone else. I dont know who else I can ask. He said things are being pushed on me. I dont want to get into it or I wouldn't ask you to do it." surveillence and might know who got copies. She came from Nelsonville, Ohio. h As the hearing room erupted with laughter, Ulasewicz said the New York City police force had "some of the finest wire men in the department " Q Do you think your wire men wen' better than McCord's wire men? On the occasion when Caulfield wanted to express his sympathy, Ulasewicz said, he slipped a note in McCord's mailbox giving him the number of a highway telephone booth and two times when Caulfield would try and call him there. Sally Harmony former secretary to G. Gordon Liddy, the only Watergate breakin de fendant to remain silent. McCord told the Senate committee he believes Mrs. Harmony might have typed the final reports on the Watergate Watergate Reaction Varied By Patricia McCarty United Press International the police wire man, in police be anyone who's familiar would parlance with applying wiretaps, any type of surveillance by electrical means and so m a room, on a person, in an forth automobile, in a tire or any place." McCord was an electronics expert' with the CIA and FBI. Well Ulasewicz a!o said he was reluctant to act as intermediary with McCord but did it because Caulfield was a close Europe. In Europe Circles mad that America has thrown into confusion its politics and opened a constitutional- crisis over an affair as minor as the Watergate affair, said Raymond Cartier, foreign affairs wire man? fnend Caulfield said he asked Ulasewicz. a fnend from the New York City police force also once employed at the White House, to contact McCord and let him know Caulfield wanted to talk to him rl What do you mean a pretty good asked Sen. Howard Baker. Ulasewicz, a tall, man with a thick New York accent, said he received $22,000 a year for his work and that he was paid by Herbert Kalm-bach- , Nixons personal lawyer who no longer represents him. Ulasewicz said he did nothing illegal in this job, but he was not asked about what activities he did undertake. broad-shouldere- d Yes, sir, Caulfield replied Contact McCord and on a cs Ulasewicz said he never met McCord, but considered him "a pretty good wire man from what he read about the case ear Job $22,v00 Sen. Daniel K. Inouye, asked Caulfield if he was aware you were involved in a criminal act of obstructing criminal investigations'1 a K under these circum-tane" friendship basis Ulasewicz as an independent investigator secretly employed fur three years by former White Houe adviser John D headquarters. Both were convicted years Liddy has been sentenced to in prison. McCord awaits final sentencing June 15 along with five other defendants who pleaded guily At the time the clemency offers were made, Caulfield said, McCord was trying to stay out of jail. McCord had said he rejected the offers on grounds the White House was trying falsely to lay the blame on the CIA and that some guilty parties weren't being prosecuted tnrf N't o r Our h f i p.t H i j or m tti. ' rjln nn'jn,Qn roi,fip CALL 355-362- 1 vtntnci i.jll co'er o tn pur |