Show A2 Thursday August 22 1974 Our Readers Give Us Their Opinions vironmentalists but with Dear Sam: In response to your last their sense at Morals week’s editorial concern- we may do away with Beef and start eating Cats ing the Park Service hearBrunrley mentioned on wilderness Park ENTERED AS SECOND CLASS MATTER ings how he could read the AT THE POST OFFICE AT MOAB UTAH proposals and your con- mind of a school mate cern with poor pailicl-patio- n UNDER THE ACT OF MARCH 3 1397 Second Class Postage Paid at Moab Utah from the public from what a cynical 84532 smile meant and added Official City and County Newspaper locally and specifically his opinion that it meant no official representaPublished Each Thursday at 29 E Center the school mate was tion from local County Moab Utah at the Death of leased and City Government let ? Samuel J Taylor Editor and Publisher However 'res Kennedy 1 me say that share your a smile or laugh may but concern Adrien Taylor the reasons to Assistant the Publisher mean many things suen ErneSt D Milner Foreman' Sports Editor for lack of local interest as nervousness at such Brenda Marlar Office Manager even from Local Governtimes Cindy Wiseman Computer Operator ment is understandable The Question Are All when we look at the past Politicians Liars? "No" track record that show the total lack of considera- of the two he liked one tion of the Feds in these was an adulterer and the other a murderer One It’s our opinion that elected public officials matters to local desires was married and had a Item: Initial creation should be left to make major policy decisions in and the mistress the other deliof community political subdivisions without allowing localCanyonlands sent 1600 Cubans feelings as berately that decision-makin- g to on the their responsibility to be fragmented to sizemajority multiple use etc beaches deaths by community action at the of Bay Item: of the Expansion That’s what they’re elected for we feel and Pigs the voters and residents of a given area have ample Park Same issues Pride Item: With continuous opportunity to make their opinions known at the downfall Gofrom Local requests ballot box Now that we have anew vernment leaders and Occasionally however it is refreshing to see from the Governor the President — Let us go governmental bodies involve the general public on a Park Service BLM and on to an all new Con- without the large scale in deciding a major issue Such was the Forest Service still reKiss case last Thursday evening when an overflow crowd fuse to allow local govflooded the County Courtroom in response to an inand Promises ernment and State Govformal public hearing by the Grand County CommisL English Kenneth sion to assist them in deciding whether or not to buy ernment participation in PLANNING They Just the old LDS Church building on 1st North street for the want us to be "witnesses” Dear Sam: a community building Concerning Park WildWe feel that in no other way could the County after they have made all erness Proposals The the decisions rather than Commission gotten a clearer indication of the comof matter rethe facts true participants in spite main munity’s feeling on this issue unchanged exItem: The recent As a result of the hearing the matter "is a well of prepared and indead issue” according to a statement from one ample of the wilderness timidating responses to Nain Zions honest and valid objecCounty Commissioner and so it appears that’s that proposals If the overwhelming majority of those attending the tional Park is the most of fills atti- tions The size and scope exhearing had been of a different opinion we are sure outstanding and The “lo- of the Proposals are truism tude the Commission would have bowed to their wishes cal reI have cessive great participation” con- spect for the letter of also inof about 10000 We don’t advocate running our County or our sisted dividual signatures in op- Ms Janet L Moench from for that matter a of "town hall" City by way periodic to the Park Ser- Tucson for it was sincere and came from her heart meeting to which the general public is invited We do position wilderness vice proposal however she feel however that involving the general public ocsimply misthe Five Additionally on individual understood the argument casionally to assist in decision-makin- g Association of County cases would be a refreshing departure from the way Governments each indi- The argument is against been have done in the excesses that are threatthings past vidual County' Commission involved Chambers ening our basic human of Commerce City Coun- rights The argument is and cils the Utah State Leg- for human rights manof a way perhaps ofLast week started it We ran a picture of Lee islature' and others aging the Parks to the resoluadopted ficially followed this was it banana and Flowers’ big squash tions opposing their pro- benefit of everyone week with Louis Farmer and his mammoth cantaThe facts posals The Governor of simply following cannot be exloupe Utah took the State of also This happens every year and we at The Times on the plained away and swept look forward to it We never cease to marvel at the a strong position under the rug matter and individuals 1 Most old agricultural potential of this valley and are proud locally were out in mass people canto help spread the word not into these backpack at the What This isn’t something we’ve just started Our was thehearings to th? due vast areas result? You severe climate and files clear back to the turp of the Century yre terr it! SerThe Park filled with stories and pictures about internationally 'guessed rain and due to ill health toand vice absolutely award-winnicorn squash fruit etc For some 2 Most young people ignored the local cannot reason this facet of our community’s life was over- tally into backpack and desires looked or neglected during our industrialized past interest to due vast areas these In conclusion although two decades but it could play an important part in to them caused dangers alnot did schedule my our future low me to appear at any by the immense size of Seth Schick consultant working with the Grand of the hearings I am the proposed areas reCounty Water Conservancy District in its experia statement sulting in inadequate sumental projects in Spanish Valley was more than a submitting though I know that pervision little enthused after taking the first batch of test Even 3 Most of us with the be a waste of time will it i will not backpack plot grapes to a Denver winery ability on my part I still can“Not only was the acid and sugar content perwe have limited because to not igmyself due fect we were informed that our crop beat the Cali- nore bring to lack of fitime and fornia harvest by several weeks” Mr Schick stated not the opportunity nances force us to that unilatprotest their In a few months after the grape squeezings the time most work of eral and arbitrary ac4 Most of us with the have been turned to wine the sophisticated tongues tions concerning our area will tell us whether or of professional and our future I have ability to backpack will we do not we have a winner We’re betting said it before and I will not do so as we receive an abundance of say it again These Fed- in our work andwalking eral agencies treat the rather ride and restwould when local people as if we were we and are sightseeing colonial peasants stupid the enjoying parks that have no rights to the 5 Hikers do not have land and land resources a monopoly on harmony around us They seem to of nature as people ob- -: attitake the arrogant tain this harmony in diftude that they know best ferent ways- It is absurd is that I I The sad part of itWith no come here they background of the area since Dorie Moab Melich and Neighborhood make They Service team met this Helen Taylor took a group decisions that we will week with Jan Oliveto our of girls in 1958 have to live with and Next week we will try District Advisor from they will all be gone withPrice to begin this school and print the full sche- in a few months or years year’s Scouting program dule of troops with their at the most Also meeting with the leaders and meeting days I am afraid that our Service team were Cath- and places Most troops people have become diserine Murdock our Dis- should be in full swing couraged and decided 7 Chairman and the first and second "the hell with it" We trict Glenda Gibson Cadette weeks of September should however do the Leader of Troop 555 from and begin to opposite Price Jan and Glenda FROM VACATION fight! and Mrs Jim Mr met with mothers and Sincerely Dressback returned home girls of 8th and 9th gractes Cal Black vacation from a in Shirley Shelton's Caa-etIndiana Indianapolis Troop who will be in Dear Sam: relavisited where they on to a “Our going trip In reference to Guest Jim is manager Cabana’’ in Mexico next tives Editorial thoughts "ComJune 1975 Glenda Gib- of Miller’s Foodtown mon Ground" By Proxy son will be in charge of Store here in Mob Thomas Brumley: this trip and we will be FROM DURANGO I am sure the deer giving you more informMrs Zane Henderson feeding up to their belation on this trip as the and daughter Kristy came lies in the Red Grass year goes by “Our Ca- from Durango to spend trust him as the sun died bana” is an International an last week But the small cat he disGirl Scout Girl Guide with overnight her mother Mrs sected in the Laboratory House and this will be L L and may tell it differently Taylor the first group of Utah family while were And Brumley is trying to they Girl Scouts going there all here tell us what Morality is? No real offense to Ea- of Abreast in Activities Keep This Rapidly Growing Too Late Too Classify FOR SALE — 3 bedroom Visitor Mecca el home close to school' Fully carSubscribe Now to fenced peted built-in- s THETIMES-INDEPENDENT backyard 518 Walker $ime0-3nitpenie- nt involving the public great place for growing ng wine-taste- rs p&i yy - long-lasti- two-we- te ng ek tri-lev- 259-57- 34-2- 42 NAME ADDRESS CITY- - Grcwid County KEEP STATE 5 00 Out of Grand County CANYONLANDS --ZIP 6 00 felt that if parents would accept their responsibil- par yaar CLEAN tc follow-Senori- ty Pride-Presti- ge to assume hikers are elite because of their form of recreation 6 Ample evidence abounds throughout the world that development y bene-are- as and their conservation 7 The competent private sector can develop access and facilities into these parks with great benefits to Conservation and our society and it would add to our tax base rather than imposing higher tax burdens There are already acres set aside for hikers for every acre set aside for the rest of us Fourteen million acres '(Wilderness Areas) set aside for the hikers 8 200 and fifty thousand acres as campgrounds for the rest of us 9 Well organized minorities demanding special privileges are exploiting individual rights at great expense to human rights The basic question is do well organized and well financed minorities many from distant places have the right to impose their philosophy pro- jects and opinions Yours truly Joe Stocks i ities as parents we would not have a teenage probenvironmentalists lem Still others felt that I wonder if this is really the teenagers have not what the environmentconsidered the beautiful alists want Do they real- natural surroundings of ly want total federal conGrand County when they trol in these areas? lament "There's nothing Aren’t they afraid these to do here” Perhaps vast powers bestowed on there is some validity in the Interior Department each of these opinions will be misused? Do they What was most distresreally believe that the sing was that not one local people don’t have teenage person stood up the brains or concern to to let his or her opinion at least have a say and be known In fact to my hand in how the land is knowledge not one teendeveloped or preserved ager attended the meetaround their homes ing The people in this area There have been sevdon’t want their environeral attempts to provide ment damaged yet there teen centers during the must be development in Unfortunately pastyears this area It should be these have failed "But orderly and within set they weren’t properly limits but not at the ex- supervised” many say pense of INDIVIDUAL’S "H itt is too supervised RIGHTS The federal buwill the teenagers sup- reaucracy is not all know- port foe program?’ ’Again ing and it should not be these statements are This fiom adults speaking for all commanding country was built by inthe teenagers Perhaps it centives not by controls is time for the teenagers I would like to partito come up with some sug- cipate and help ui the development and con- servation of this area under my own free will not under the gun Sincerely Jerry Stocks Dear Editor: Bunk! No one can tell me that anyone is going to backpack very far into the wild areas around Moab let alone nid people or sick people unless' water is developed and water can’t be developed under the rules of the Wilderness Proposal Anyone with a "cheap” backpack that tries is in trouble Dear Sam: There were a few things that were written in last week’s Letters to the Editor that deserve a reply First there should be set wilderness areas aside but not on the scale nor in the manner that has been proposed Mr Carither’s letter makes the case for the Sincerely environmentalists There John Cortes is an Environmentalist Act Bill (The Organic Dear Sam: S1041) currently before Last Thursday evening Congress that passed the the County Commission-Senat- e 8V 1974 and July is up for house consid- - ?” to order StatS-- e gestions of their own As a member of the Grand County Bicentennial Committee not one teenager has approached us with a suggestion or proposal as to how they feel the 15000 that is available to us through state funds should be spent At the meeting last Thursday many people felt that Grand County needs a community center Other suggestions ceninvolved a day-cater a convention center and a teen center We are getting many excellent suggestions from the adult community I think that it is time that we hear from all facets of our community The State of Utah is providing these funds so that we might improve the quality of life in re Grand County It is my hope that we hear as many different suggestions as possible so that the fluids can be spent to their best advantage Sincerely Benge Guest Editorial Opinion Common Ground By Thomas Brumley My best friend was mugged in New York Listen to this: Leaving a movie he is walking a sidestreet back to his car In the middle of the block a man steps out from between two cars A nearsighted man a pale man with broken teeth Thinking himself wise in the ways of the street my friend turns to avoid the stranger’s approach but is already too late An accomplice a taller man a stronger man a man with arms like the bark of a tree now wrapped around his neck halts hU progress The man with broken teeth speaks first: "What you got in your pockets?" Broken teeth blur his speech but his little pistol makes things perfectly clear "There is ten dollars in my wallet" Bob answers weakly The rough tree limbs around his throat make speech painful A man and a woman approach from' the opposite direction halt cross the street turn and disappear around the corner The street is very empty Now the pale man has Bob’s wallet drawn up close to his face IBs eye- glasses are very thick like the bottoms of bottles of milk and he is careful to remove only file Mils from the wallet "Is this all of it?" ration This bill im eral might voice poses Colonial Status to their public mi whether opinions those areas which are "Yes" not the County should or "How will you get home?" the mugger asks composed primarily of LDS Old file "I don’t know" public land such as Grand purchase Church on First North “Where do you live?" County was amazing to see The public land will be It follow him “Uptown” - Bob lies Maybe they will who number the of -' home administered' i from re- attended The people courtroom mote places "If I give you back a dollar you could taken was full except' gallery official the Secretary train : huh?” a few seats and sev- I could" He does not tell the man he of Interior will be given for "Yes standeral people were owns a car either unlimited regulation on “If I gave you back five dollars you could take wthority a cab right?" public lands TheSecre “Yes a cab would be nice" Bob answers tary of Interior will have to reiterate the opinions his own police force to that were anxious to get back what he can But this bargaining that expressed enforce these regulations makes no sense at all evening but I would like and THEY CAN ARREST to "Whadaya think Mario "the man with the broken comment on one parWITHOUT WARRANT ticular subject that teeth asks his companion The less financed people seemed to be of "Send the punk home on the train" Mario major answers will not have any right of concern to thickly the of many ‘No let’s give ’im back enough for a cab The appeal The bill will in- people who were in at- validate most mining tendance subway is dangerous at night" And this is done The muggers put claims The people of Moab and The bill through un- Grand back in Bob’s wallet shove the wallet back in his conCounty are limited authority bonding cerned about pocket gently smooth his shirt turn and disappear teentheir and other monied conOf course there down the street siderations makes it a agers My friend’s knees are looser now and his spine were as many opinions rich man’s bill The cm what to do about or is looser now and his clothes are soaked with that stockmen timbermen for the teenagers as there cool sweat of danger passed He walks ever so commercial tour opera- were people One of the quickly to where his car is parked Was parked tors etc will have the suggestions was to use Yes The car is left on four milk crates foe wheels federal bureaucratic and tires gone The stereo is gone The tapes are LDS of Old the part noose drawn tighter Church facility for or- gone The seats are slashed Then everything comes around their necks All ganized activities for the clear the mugging was a sham The mugger’s acof this in the name of the complices used the delay to steal possessions of teenagers Other people much greater value This was a very elaborate production and reminds me in many ways of the Wilderness hearings in Moab The mugger’s intentions were set well in advance as the government’s decisions were made well in advance of the meetings Canyonlands and Arches will become whatever foe Federal Government decides they will become and while the good citizens of Mow and elsewhere are allowed to struggle with me another over whose rights will be deprived by the opening or closing of jeep trails the presence or absence of outboard motors in the canyon and other trivia of little significance to the final plan the mugger’s accomplices are forty miles up foe Dolores destroying I say destroying more wilderness with their road building for drilling than anyone at that hearing could ever in a lifetime use to live on Wilderness destroyed for-4- 1 company is gone their road away taking more wilderness with it Jsh And there are no Public hearings about fids Not even a thin smear of democracy here Ask this question and you will not receive a satisfactory answer: Why does Mobil Oil have the 8t to do what the individual citizen cannot do? Ana another: Why do we allow ourselves to be manipulated as we were surely manipulated by those hearings into petty arguments amongst ourselves while the fundamental decisions are made for us like innocent children? And my friends of foe so- How you bellowed and pro-- 0 called counter-cultura short while ago when foe power of the iral Government was aligned to deprive you of your individual rights concerning involuntary servitude the draft' the war And now? Many there were at foe meetings who thought nothing of aligning themselves with this same illicit power once it PPCred to be in service of their own special interests There is no real argument amongst for example four wheel drivers and backpackers There are angels and saints in both camps a monopoly of neither in either No one wishes to see Wilderness destroyed who spoke at those meetings We are not enemies but ft is In foe Government’s best interest to have us believe that we are They put us against ourselves force us to bargain for our rights thus control us Jn our confusion It is time A CRYIHS SHA&E isn’t it to clarify the issues and share the common '- Anon-elect- (U-mM- ed fe" i e: |