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Show THE DESERET SAMPLER, Friday, March 28, 1980 Am interview with Capt Editors Notet The Sampler staff decided to inter- fiSure the com-- . nnunder Captain Pny Aiken: Yes,, there were more criminal problems in Germany, particu- larly in the combat units. Samplen I've heard you are going to PCS, where are you going? Aiken: I leave here after Change of Command. April 15. Im gping to Ft. Knox, Kentucky, where Ill be an in- structor in the Chemical and Biologi cal Defense at the Armor School working under Command Staff sion. Im looking forward to this. jama Aiken has been Commander for about two years. In that time he has affected our lives in many ways. We tnink this interview is candid and in- The interviewer was SP4 Hancock. Tammy thing. There is not one thing that this company does together besides Physical Training and we piss and moan continuously about that. Samplen How many years have you at Dugway? Samplen Could you tell us a little spent Aiken: On the 28th of April I will about your Army background? Aiken: I was drafted in 1968; I got have been at Dugway three years, in out of that one. I was drafted again Utah five years. February 1970 and 1 got out of that one. Finally, March 1970 they got me Samplen Have you been a Company Commander anywhere else? 1 had to give up the ghost so, I enAiken: No, I've never been a com- listed for an OCS option. I took my basic training at Ft. Dix and from the pany commander before but I served end of class until April I worked as a as' a commander of a small detachcook and a clerktypist. Then I went ment when with the 303rd at Headto OCS, got my commission Novem- quarters detachment and I worked for ber of 1970 and went to the basic a short time as a Cavalry Commander. Sampler: What lias been your tough- est problem working with the Dug- - way Troops? Aiken: Nobody wants to get in- volved. Nobody wants to be a mem- ber of that unit. Everybody wants to be a part of PA or the Air Field or Test Ops but nobody wants to be a part of Headquarters Company; yet that is the only thing we have in common. They work for different bosses, they have different time schedules and Do you think that troops ferent problems but the only thing differ here from those you encounter- - they have in common is that they heed in Germany? long to the company and are in the Aiken: No they are the same. They Army. Most of the troops (the major-a- ll want the; same thing that every- - ity) are jsut apathetic, body else wants. We have a few peculiarities because of our isolation, we Sampler: Is Espree de Corps non-do- n where existent? 't have a town nearby Aiken: It is not nonexistent, we troops can gp out and do the things do. the want have to a small group of people who get However, people they are the same, generally 97 are good involved with company activities. A troops, two percent are fence sitters .small group of people go rappelling or and one percent are definitely bad. river rafting, some bowl or play basis no commond Sampler: Were there more criminal ketball, but there likes to do every-not bond, everybody problems in Germany? chemical officers course at Ft. McClellan. From there I came to dif-Sampl- en , Utah and was stationed at the Deseret Test Center, which was headquarters for Dugway. I spent, two years at Ft. Douglas and one at Dugway. From there I went to Europe, spent 15 months as a maintenance officer in the missile maintenance company, then to the Second Armory Calvary Regiment, where I was a Regiment Staff Chemical Officer. When I came back from overseas I went to the advance chemical course at Aberdeen Proving Ground. Then they sent me to Ducwav and 1 have been here eJer s ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG Prices Effective 28th Uadies 29th Entire stock. 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Nobody cares why the Commiswould be rather Aiken: People . rights never installed during your pany Commander doesnt get someerable than talk to someone who can command? thing done, the only thing they care do wwffifng about their problems, Aiken: The reason they were never about is did he get it done and if he For example, you never hear com- - installed until just recently was bedidnt get it done is he prepared to mess hall in the cause we never asked for them. I was suffer the consequences for failing. plaints being brought to the cook or supervisor on duty . TTie against the idea, but I have changed My responsibilities remain the same whether Im capable of performing only person the troops complain to is my mind in some respects about it. the guy sitting next to them and he them or not. If I am not capable of cant do anything except commiserate Sampler: Why is that? performing a given task then I must He terrible." cant Aiken: Two I reasons.' think that its by saying ya go back to my boss and say I dont do anything about the food. They the people that we are getting ashave sufficient assets to accomplish have to talk to the person in charge, signed here now should be treated this or I cant do this for these reasons. they have to tell us what they dont more as adults. I also think they If he feels they are valid that is fine, if like. I have some people come in on should have the right to have people he doesnt then he sys do it anyway the open door policy because they visit like I have people visit my home and I am stuck. You do the best you want to talk to someone that will un- or office. I think they should have that can and I think that is one of the derstand what their problem is. right because if you live in this buildthings that the troops do not underverMaybe it is nothing more 'than ing, this is your home. Although there stand; as long as. you are .mking an order to in a are some common areas that are used honest effort to accomplish what you get problem balizing some kind of a reaction. About 75 per- now I think within good taste that we have been told to do then nobody can cent of the people who come in dur- could probably have visitation rights really bitch at you. ing my open door hours want to talk here. The problem is that there will Sampler: Would installing visitato someone about a personal problem, be five percent that will Screw it up tion rights be easier said than done? they want a sounding board, they are for the other 95 percent. Aiken: No, I think it would be very not necessarily voicing .a specific But see dont Sampler: you any simple to put into practice. I would harm in visitation have no problem. We have a PA syscomplaint. trying rights? Aiken: No, I dont see any harm in tem throughout the building, at ten or Sampler: Do yo mind listening to trying. I think it would be a good idea. eleven we just say all visitors must It would prove to me that the troops leave the floors and everyone moves personal problems? Aiken: No, no at all. I like doing here are mature enough to handle it. out. I dont think it is a big problem. I things for people, that is what Im But I see some indications that maybe just hope we are adults enough to deal here for. I am the troops servant. they arent. I see some long hair and with it. Im the guy who is supposed to be the when I say,. Get it cut they say, I Continued Sampler: VVhy is that? Aiken i I don't know, 1 couldn't really attribute that to anything. I don't know whether it's because they get a lower mental category or what. I. seems the people who are not educat- ed enough to be technicians or sup- port personnel usually end up in com- bat units. Divi-teratin- g. Ailcem- Slim Thul Serve.; ts A ., H uill" sV.. i L'- - |