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Show 'fill PRESS ASSOCIATED tUH telegraphic service .nr- - WEATHER FORECAST SHOWERS TODAY AND TED. " OGDEN NO. 229. VOL. L CITY, UTAH, TUESDAY MORNING. AUGUST PRICE FIVE CENTS 16. 1904. r NOTED JAPANESE - PORI ARTHUR FLEET Location After Naval Battle not Known- - Americarf and French Naval Attaches are Their Missing Ixmdon, August 15. The Tokio correspondent of the Times says thai Count Kawamura Is dead. He was regarded as tbe hither of the Japanese army. m. baa no Information aa whether Lieut Newton L. McCul-nary and rf the United State IW Decuiverille of the French navy, at Port the only two naval attache With-oed- g Arthur, Joined Rear Admiral left the it when port squadron Wednesday morning last. Had they would joined the aquadron they hare been on board the flag-ehl- p absence of The Czarevitch. Ad- uewi aa to their preaence with alrai Withoeft ia taken to indicate that they remained on shore, and it ii pointed out that It would be propprovince to er ia the admiral' to Uke the attaches in cnee he couiderad the enterprise too hassard-eu- s and ao aa not to expose the rep- neeatatlves of a neutral nation to Che Foo, Aug. 16. 2 p. m. The Russian ships at Port Ar- thur made a sortie early today. 1'hey are now being pursued bythe Japanese. A severe engagement ia expected. Z de-dl- dancer. It ia reported that Viceroy Alexleft hu left Mukden hurriedly for Vladivostok on receipt of news that the n of Vice Admiral Bexaobrazoff had liken a aerioua turn and that the waa not expected to recover. of the Port The exact whereabout Arthur battieehlpa la still a mystery oi which hlngea Ruiiian naval fortunes In the Far East Telegrams reporting them back at Port Arthur have not been confirmed up to this Ill-se- ad-Bir- hour. that Vice Admiral cannot or will not say where they have gone. Admiralty officials not only declare thev do not know but they refuse to believe that out of five battleships not a single one managed to break through to VladiIt ia apparent Togo either vostok. a The came of this uncertainty la attributed partly by a distinguished naval attache to the natural consequence of a tea fight in the night lime. Veneli on either aide might become separated and be unable to rejoin their respective fleets at daybreak. or possibly be tempted to chase . 'ii individual eneuvy who might be :1a sight rather than to proceed to their rendezvous. Admiral Togo's report of his own , damage mentions only n few ships which le believed to Indicate that the other have not rejoined hla fleet. It is more than probable that Admiral Withoeft before going oat fixed n rendezvous to which the vessels would e proceed if separated and It ia likewise more than probable that this rendezvous was anywhere except at Port Arthur, the moat likely point belng between Shanghai and Klualu (the most southerly of the three principal ialanda of Japan), which is on the circular route to Vladivostok. The Czarevitch was evidently heading for this point when she was compelled by the damage she sustained to turn aside and enter Tslngiau. In this connection it is interesting to note the presence off the Saddle Islands of four battleships reported in the Shanghai telegram and later amid to be four cruisers presumably the Pallads, Diana and Novik, escorting the crippled flagship Askold. These vessels might take advantage of the cafact that the 8hangha!-Nagaak- ! ble la laid near the Saddle Islands to sever Japanese communication with the continent Persistent reports that the Russian vessels were coaling from colliers in these waters confirms the hypothesis that they had agreed to rendezvous at Ihla point en route to Vladffllvoatok if they failed to keep together and to rush to the Korean MATTER IS SETTLED Letter From Mississippi Governor Relative to Editorial on Roosevelt Washington, August 15. Another chapter and probably the final so far as the government is concerned, wae added today to the case growing out of the refusal of the postoffU-- department to name a Mississippi post office after Gov. Vardaman of that state, by the promulgation by Postmaster General Payne of a statement which he gave without a comment the letter from Gov. Vardaman, published in the Charleston, 8. C.. News and Courier. This letter which is excepted by the poelofflce department as confirming the authenticity of Governor Varda-man- a editorial remarks about the mother of President Roosevelt, is given in a newspaper publl lion aa follows: FOUR BODIES RECOVERED More Victims of Eden Wreck Found and Identified. 15. Secretary Washington. Aug. Cortelyou of the National Republican committee, left here today for New York. yp QUESTION Pueblo, Cola. Aug. 15. Four bodies of victims of the Eden wreck were identified. recovered today and all Among the four are three children. All of the 88 bodlee recovered to date, have been Identified. Those recovered today are: Mrs. Minnie Huddleston, (colored)', Puebla son of James Joseph, Keating, Puebla Mamie Moliier, aged 2, Pueblo, Robert Garriland, 2 2 years old,. Denver. The remains of the colored woman were ao decomposed that they were taken at once to the cemetery for burial. The bodiea were found about eight miles down tbe river. The coroner's Jury examined a number of witnesses today and have summoned a few more for tomorrow. A verdict will probably not be reached before the end of the week. d ill lllillll ill ' Dubois ivilll IIn I has Introduced Resolution, Radically Anti-Mormon--Prosp- of ect Defeat in Strong Evidence. Saved Bis Hundred of th Rurlks Crew Telle of Gallant Defense by Russians. ADVERTISING MANAGER8 CON- SULT. atate convention whir Wt here today. United State Sci Dubois who was defeated as in his own county and su "rtvd in being chosen from Cuati "Mty. proposed a radical antl-Mresolution. resolution hi w softened to Hla denouncing polyf the mixing of church an Jy and ,nd promising to favor legist! effect those view t2 I "Y ,nto now Si tost this re sol tin! rwlll.1be defeated and the nation! ocratlc plank be simply ? the Duboia resolution fa u wticipated, li la considered Ilk j, enry Heitfleld or A,r.x'8en,lor who to1y waa regarde u iflS oncertain to be nominated ft SVnorhiP wM withdraw In fa James H. . Hawley i qfflhph.mgh exiovernor Frank Sti held of-- i?wnow v6roualy u candldacy by membei I ! " I1. '"I1 unlikely Uu Dominations will be made tunigh o 2 NEW AUTO RECORDS Oldttiid Makes Naw World' ntcord for Oval Courts- - Wbu&J 15'-'- ne rnci Racing eviitlnny0 AatombIle U Kenilworth park di records ft topedn,5!?ay otwa ?b ?tfc?Tal 'hn.idt felles in vs M bvl th. elt,, la . U h, 00 Reid d! mi lht oour- - ch COTerd a Braey Oldflel e distance in 26:4 Jnechines of the heav ldfle,d Iwt mile was covert 4 reconds. free fr all. cai Oli pol,nd- Barney fLtlr4GeorM Graham. line tea lUrtil event - 10:23 3t Th n! MAYOR HARRISON WILL 1 ACT AS MEDIATOR t r VETERANS ARE BUSY Will Attempt to Settle the Meat Strike Reception to National Officers, Campfire and Banquet, Ended Hret Day's Gathering. n Id-su- LOCKOUT IN NEW YORK PARKER BOQUETS Eanpua. N. New York, Aug. 15. Representative c W. 8. Cowherd, chairman of the Derv-ncrati- Democratic (Delayed Petersburg, August 15. The expectation here Is that Port Arthur will fall at any moment. Especial significance is ascribed to the fact that Limit. Gen. StoeMel'a ife and children went, to Che Foo on hoard the torpedo boat destroy- er Ryeshitelnl. in transmission.) Admiral Kamlmura in hia detailed report of last Sunday's Boston. Aug. 15. The annua convictory over the Vladivostok squadron vention of the National Army Nurses aaya: "At dawn Sunday morning the arm- association with the preseldent, Mrs. ored cruisers, the lii(mo,Cait. Ijirhl; Addle Ballou of San Francisoo, in tha the Adsuma, Capt. Kujil; the Toklwa, chair, was held in Trcmont Temple Cpt. Yoshlmaba, and the Iwate, Cupt today. The convention adopted as its offTaketoml, while engaged in a search icial emblem a badge deslgurd by Mrs. off Ulaan, Korea, discovered three of a medallion representing a the Vladivostok squadron at earning Uallou, southward.. Serine us, the rnemy en- nurse earing for a wounded soldier with the words "Civil War above deavored to flee northward. We imThe and below. mediately dosed their retreat President Ballous annual address engagement opened at 6:23 a. m. The waa a plea for an official and fraternal Rurik, being the slowest of the enemys of the association by the recognition was left behind vessels, constantly and she formed a target for our Inces- G. A. R. The reception of the national officers sant fire. Tbe Rom La and the Gromo-bo- t of the Women's Relief Corim to Coni-magallantly attempted several times John C. TTsck and to protect the Rurik. They frequently e returned to the Kiirik and when unit- other of the G. A. R. held at the hotel this evening was a briled the three advanced together. Our fleet thus had the advantage, pouring liant affair. A feature was the preaIia fire from a formation in the shape ence in the receiving line of Miss Clara of the letter T. The enemy's ships Barton, formerly president of the Hod were seen to be on fire several times, Cross society. The fire of the national assoshowing thereby that they were heav- ciation camp of Union of war ily damaced. The Rurik waa finally waa held in Tremont Temple tonight disabled and her fire weakened. She in connection with the national enbegan lowering in the water listing to campment of the Captain port The Kossla and Gromobol fin- John A. Read. U.association. 8. N.. presided. ally abandoned the Rurik. Just, then The association today elected Qnl. our fourth detachment, consisting of the protected cruisers Nanlwa, Capt, J. B. Walker, of Pittsburg, Pa., Wads, and the Takaidiiho. Capt, Mori The most notable gathering of (he having been seen attacking the Rurik, G. A. It in the evening aside from the our squadron pursued the Rossis and Gromobodl. Severe fighting contin- camp lira waa tbe banquet in Fanull ued for five hour. The Rossla and hall, tendered by Edward Kinsley Post No. 113 of Boeton to a score of former Gromobol escaped to the northward at confederate officers. full speed. At 10:11 a. m. our aquadCommander Jeb. C. Little of Lafayron changed its course to starboard ette post paid a tribute to the gueata and went south In search of the Rurik. from the south, who, he said, had JoinIn the meantime the Rurik had been hands with the north in s(Pixirtlng sunk. Our ships steamed over tha ed Old one country, one flag and locality and succeeded in saving six one Glory, citizenship. hundred members of tbe Rurfk'a crew. Colonel Charles H. Taylor of BosOur damage was not serious. ton, tha toastmaster, declared that It The spirit of our men was excellent." waa worth all tbe gold brick" PhilAdmiral Kamlmura waa on the aud Vke Admiral Uriu com- ippine islande had cost to see by the Spanish war the people of manded the fourth detachment the north and aonth. Colonel Edward 8. Gay of Atlanta, Tokio, Aug. 16. The Japanese genGa., spoke of the indissoluble union acerally are comparing the treatment corded to the crew of tbe Runk to that of indestrucible staid. accorded by the Vladivostok aquadron to those on board the transport Hitachi, which the squadron sank June 15th, during Its first raid. A prominent official said to the Associated Press today: "Japan baa avenged the Hitachi. Admiral Kamlmura rescued and suc- Employers' Association Will Suspend Work If Strike la Not Called Off. cored those who aided In sinking the Hitachi and who sailed away from New York, August 15. At a meethundreds of drowning victims. We offer their living for our detd." ing of the building trades alliance today tbe elevator and mill workers union waa suspended because of It Nagasaki, August 14. 11 a. in. Six hundred survivors of tbs crew of action In returning to work on the the Russian cruiser Rurik, which waa Trinity building after the Alliance had sunk by Admiral Kamlmura off U- ordered a strike. The carpenters lna, Korea, Sunday morning, have ar- unionn today made arrangements for the raising of at least $30,000 a week rived at Basebo. The Japanese hnepltal ship Ralklo as a strike fund. R. J. Anslow, business agent of the has also arrived at Sasebo with seventy seven Japanese wounded, includ- atone cutlers union said that within ing Imperial Prince Hlroyaan Kwacko, a week the atone cutters undoubtedly who was slightly wounded In the naval would strike on at least a dozen or engagement of August 10 off Round Is- more buildings. land. It is thought that the employer association will order a lockout on all tbe buildings If the strike ordered on the buildings today la not called off. A member of the press committee of the employe1 association states that the metal lather have bees ordered to go by the national Democrat Candidate Reviewed Brass back to work. organisation Band Reception. Parker arrived lewiston.Idaho.Aug. 15. Conaldei n of the Mormon question Is ti Wit blocking the proceedings of tl a. m. Tokio, August . St. Ven-dom- "Anderson. August 8tb, special. Several days ago the editor of the Anderson Daily Mall wrote to Governor J. K. Vardaman of Mississippi and asked him about the truth of the assertion made by Postmaster General Payne that Gov. Vardaman had, while editor of a newspaper In Mississippi some years ago. published an editorial making a disrespectful allusion to Mrs. Roosevelt, mother of the president. The following letter has been received In reply: " Executive department, J ark eon, Miss., August 6. My dear Sir: Your very kind favor of the fourth lust, haa been received. If I had a copy of the Commonwealth you desire, I would take pleasure in sending It to you, but the file of the old paper are a hundred mile away. There waa nothing In that editorial offenelve to Mrs. Roosevelt or that reflected upon her In tbe least. I simply undertook, upon scientific grounds, an explanation of Teddys degeneracy, and general cusaedneaa, without holding his ancestors (sponstraits. A telegram from Che Foo saying sible for it. I thought I owed it to hla that three Russian cruisers at Tsing-ta- u ancestors. Really I ahopld be ashamhad hauled down their flags waa ed to charge the devil himself with the interdicted by the censor bureau be- responsibility of the Infamy of that cause the Information reaching the distinguished incident. Sincerely and Cordially, admiralty is to the effect that only the J. K. VARDAMAN." Cxarevltch la in that port. Tokio, Aug. 16. Admiral Togo reporta that it appears certain that a vessel of the type of the protected cruiser Pallada was torpedoed and sunk in the engagement of August lOlh. Of KAMIMURA ADMIRAL GIVES GRAPHIC ACCOUNT OF SUNDAY'S ENGAGEMENT. e a. 1: SO Aug. 16. gt. Peteraburg, Tha admiralty SW IE FIGHT TELLS DEAD, congressional campaign committee came to New York today to consult with George F. Parker, who haa been made bead of the literary bureau of the national committee. Mr. Cowherd has already sent out a great supply of literature from Washington and it was regarding the work done and proposed to he done by Mr. Cowcommittee Gardner Defeats Jeffords at Butte In herd that the national wanted Information. It la quite likely Short, But Fierce Battle. that the two committee will literature. 15. Butte, Mont., Anguat George hereafter upon campaign Gardner tonight defeated Jim Jeffords in the third round, knocking him out with a right awing to the jaw that laid the flesh open and sent the Californian reeling and spinning to the floor. Jeffords lay like one dead for several momenta before he was able to comprehend anything. Jefforda was no match against the Lowell mans cleverness, Gardner repeatedly Jabbing hia left and right Into Jefford'a fare. Jefford would awing at Grdner with terrific force though the blows almost invariable would go wild or be ducked by Gardner. Jefforda was a disappointment to the fight followers here, hia footwork appearing clumsy against that of the clever man against him. It was announced from the ringside by Manager Nolan, of the Montana Athletic club, that Aurelio Herrera and Battling Nelson had agreed to a match in Butte in September and articles and transportation had been wind the two fighters. Jerry McCarthy of Salt Lke defeated Moee Lafontlse after a Washington, Aug. IE Minister Conten round preliminary of fierce has sent to the atate department ger decision. winning on a a copy of a remarkable imperial edict t fighting, issued by the Chinese empress dowthe ager TsI Hal and promulgated by lanemperor. The empress in strong Salt Lake City, August 15. Mia guage calls attention to the precarious country Ethel Barrymore, who recently was financial condition of tbe difficult to provide compelled to cancel all her engage- which makes K funds for drilling the troops. This ments in California on account of sickness made her first appearance at the condition Is said to require tbe exerSalt Lake theatre tonight aa a star In cise of the strictest economy.x The the comedy Cousin Kate." She re- empress aaya: The habit of itaone between ui and ceived a number of curtain calls. Miss to surfeit theewelvea and spend her recovered has you Barrymore entirely baa become ao health. money extravagant! DEFEATED IN THIRD ROUND F Y., August IB. Judge at Roaemount from Winnaook Lodge at 6 o'clock tonight with Mrs. Parker and hia brother Fred N. Parker. Along the mile drive in the club quarters to Big Indian he cheered. On the train the candidate was the center of interest, many of the passengers Introducing themselves. In spite of the effort to prevent any suggestion of a political character, the young people at Winnl-aoo- k made it "Parker Day." The Kingston Point band was brought over and headed a parade of all the Wlnni-aoo- k folk, who marched In review before Judge and Mrs. Parker. ,1 4f. .4 Says China is in Precarious Financial Con dition Imperial Household Economy Ordered to Create Revenue for f Drilling of Troops. strong and systematic that now there is no way It can be broken. Tbe useless expenditures for these sinecures works a great injury in the whole country." Holding that the imperial household should take the first step in economy the empress dowager baa given orders that there must be no dlverston of funds of the revenue for Jtasehold purposes, while the number of officials in the household must be reduced. All the Yemen and princes throughout the empire are directed to exercise siml.ar economy and to rid themselves of sinecure holders. day After an Appeal Made by the Retail Dealers of Chicago. Chicago. August 15. Mayor Harrison will attempt tomorrow to settle the stock yards strike.- - He will meet tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock the representative of the strikers and hear their side of the controversy, letter In the day he will have a meeting with represent natives of tbe packers and listen to their statement, and he will then undertake the task oT reconciling the ditferencee. A large committee of the Retail dealers called upon him this afternoon aud asked him to use his good office In ending the strike. The mayor said that he would gladly do all that lay in hla power to put an end to t he trouble, and n meeting between him and the labor leadere was at oure arranged. The mayor then set about arranging a meeting with the packers and they promptly sent him word that tney would meet him. There were n number of conferences during the day, all having the settlement of the strike In view, but none of them resulting In anything. It la asserted that the alleged secret meeting between the packers knd tha strikers was arranged for by W. K. Skinner, assistant general manager of the Union Stock Yards and Transit company, but that it came to naught Tha numerous assaults that have been taking placa every day and night in the neighborhood of the stock yards have stirred the police to more energetic action. SATISFACTION Sent Note to China Demanding turn of the Russian Re- Boat, St. Petersburg. August 15. The presentation of a strongly worded Russian note to the Pekin government damaging an explanation of the incident, coupled with a demand for tbe restoration of the destroyer. aa forehadowed by the pro-terent to Japan and tbe powers how that Russia la apparently determined to obtain satisfai tlon for the affront It 'la believed here that tbe least Japan can do la to surrender the destroyer unless aha wishes to place herself on. record aa defying the moat categorical' provisions of international law, with the possibilities of ultimate complications. Russia, Japanese and Chinese versions all agree that the vessel was captured In a .neutral harbor. The charge of cowardice and complicity brought against the Chinese admiral ia bared alike on hla failure to protect an unarmed vessel and on hia tha Japneae destroyers to enter the harbor. It la pointed out that it waa the Admiral's duly to place a guard on board the Ryeshitelnl, taking off the Russian crew. ........eeee.eee New York. August 13. A black- smith armed with a heavy sledge hammer defied a crowd of gym- paihlzera who were administering a violent beating to Patrick Ms-man this after- lone, a noon and ao overawed th crowd that Malone was allowed to slip away. non-unio- n . .........a on bis FAIRBANKS WILL SPEAK 1ST "U RECOGNIZE CHINAS V.. rr" a h NEUTRALITY And Great Britain will Make Every Effort to Secure This of Result-Sink- ing Knight Commander Not Justifiable. Iioedon, August AFTER s return, and waa in consultation during the greater part of the time between hia arrival and departure with Republican leaders. Including Chairman New, Secretary Dover, Congressman Tawncy, tbe Hon. C. G. Dawes, the lion. U. B. Snyder and the Hou. D. XV. Mulvane. 't hese gentlemen are all concerned with the details of tbe campaign and the time wna spent In trying to reach an agreement ns to when aud where Senator Fairbanks tour should begin and how its course should he arranged aa to beat conserve hla time and energies. Ha ha entered Into an engagement to open ' tbe Kansas state camimign at Marion, in that atate on Scpterdier let and there are calls for him for earlier dates in Vermont. He also today indicated hla positive acceptance of an invitation to apeak at Saratoga on the 14th of September on the oc- - ' caslon of the celebration of the fiftieth anniversary of the organization of the Republican party, star be will visit the far west and other sections in which tbe national committee may wish to have him speak, but the details cannot be decided until Chairman Will Visit Far Wert Latter Part of Cortelyou'a wishes are known. Mr. Tawney, In charge of the speakSeptember Secretary Shaw Haa ers' bureau, announced today that Sec. Begun Campaign in Montana. rotary Shaw would enter the campaign Senator aest week, beginning In Montana. He Chicago, Aug. 15. That will proceed thence to the Pacifia Fairbanks. Republican candidate, will participate almost coast and return through Colorado and " continuously In the campaign and tour Kansas. the country in behalf of tbe ticket New York,Aiig.l5. The gunboat Duwaa made known today aa the result of a visit made by him to Republican buque waa successfully launched toheadquarters In this city. The senator day from the yard of the Gaa Engine reached the city on an early train and Power company, at Morris from Indianapolis and left at 9 o'clock Heights. RUSSIA IS To- IB. he final cab- inet council of the parliamentary session waa held this afternoon at the foreign offlee and gave particular attention to the question of Chinese neutrality and action on the Russian reply to tbe Knight Commander representation. After the council closed the emphatic statement waa made that England feels it la absolutely essential to her own Interests and those of the entire world that the neutrality of China shall be observed by tbe two belligerents. Great Britain will make earnest efforts to secure this result. In connection with the Commander care the government will instruct Ambassador Hardings that It rannot admit the that the steamer waa rightfully sunk and will Insist that there was no Justification for so doing In International law. The king's speech proroguing parliament was brief. After mentioning hia visits to the king of Denmark and the German emperor, at. which he caid hla reception In each rase waa moat cordial, and the agreement between Frani-and Great Britain which be pointed out will be advantageous to all concerned. and materially strengthened tbe England and friendship uniting France, the king said: I to say. Hoatlliilea, regret are still in progress between Russia and Japan. Upon tbe outbreak of the war, I Issued a proclamation declaring my neutrality and enjoining all my people to a strict observance thereof. THEY'RE READY. Important questions involving th White Sulphur Springs. W. Va Aug. treatment of neutral commerce in the bands of belligerent have arisen In can61. Democratic didate Henry G. Davla, accompanied connection with there operations. The Issues Involved, which are of the gravby a party of friends from Elkina aremrived tonight, preparatory to the noti- est moment to the trad of the settled fication ceremonies which are to oc- pire, will, I trust, be amiably without prejudice to the vast comcur on Wednesday. mercial lntareata of the country." ALL. QUIET IN HAYTI. In regard to Thibet the king said the arrival of the political mission" at Washington, August 15. Minister LHama afforded him the great ret satPowall cabled the Hate department to- isfaction and reflected considerable day from Port Au Prince that every- credit on the officers and men of the conference thing ia quiet in Haytl. This was moll force. He hoped the agreeable news from the department at LHarea would result in aa arrangeofficials for they had unofficial reports ment of terms which would end the of aerioua disturbances even Involving difficulties and friction on the northern frontier ef the Indian empire. the flightr-e- f Prerideat NonL Rye-abitel- nl con-tentl- e . Bhanghal. August 15. The Russian protected cruiser Askold waa docked this morning and repairs are now proceeding. Sentries have been posted all around the dock The torpedo boat destroyer Groaovoi has Joined the Russian gunboat Mandjur, which was dismantled here the latter port of March. The Chinese sulhoritles propose ta decide the case of the Grozovol tomorrow. A saya report from the Raddle Islands there are no Russian or Japanese warship there. RESTORED TO PUBLIC DOMAIN Immense ''Forest Reserves in Oregon Opened to Settlement Washington, Aug. 15. The general land office ha issued orders restoring to public domain 397.0U0 acres of land, constituting a part of the area which had been temporarily withheld from entry for the proixised Blue Mountains forest reserve, Oregon, and 17,000 acre which had been similarly withdrawn for the proposed Wallowa for eat reservation, Oregon. The proposed Blue Mountains forest reserve includes the Blue Mountains and the Strawberry mountains in eastern Oregon. The lands thus made subject to entry and settlement are made up of scattered tract along the boundary of the proposed reserve and Ua in Umatilla. Union, Grant, Baker, Crook and Malheur counties. Tha proposed Wallowa forest reserve Includes the Ponder river mountains and headwaters of the Wallowa river in northeastern Oregon. The lands opened to settlement are composed of scattered tracts along the boundary of the proposed reserve and He in Wallowa and Union counties. In the case of both reserves the land restored to the public domain were found to be undesirable for forest reserve pur posts. -- |