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Show ; I i: THE DAILY STATE JOURNAL, THURSDAY, AUGUST PAGE FOUR of the nature of his training and profession Mr. Parker is In a position to have valuable information on the points at issue. The city engineer reached the conclusion long ago that the proper solution of the water problem in Ogden was the purchase outright of the present plant to be used sa a basis for a larger and greatly Improved system It is interesting to follow the line of reasoning by which he reached this conclusion. What he has to say should of the asist materia 'ly in the problem. In this connection credit should be given Engineer Parker for securing fur the city the water of South Fork. His conviction is that sooner or later Ogden City must go to this stream for its water supply, a supply to be taken out of tile stream far above Huntavlllc and all other settlements and brought into the city absolutely pure. Thla is hii exs-nt- ial part of Mr. Parker's greater scheme for a water supply for the city. The purchase of the plant now In existence h regards as the first log-- ll step In (he carrying out of the main enterprise. Dally Stair Smtrmil OGDEN, UTAH Journal Publishing Co, ....Publishers (Incorporated) Published every evening except Sunday ;r i i !ii Telephones Business Office Bell, End.. Editorial Rooms ....Bell, Ind, i'l lit -- 1 f lit 1 M4 M4 2 641 2 ring ring rings rings TERMS OP SUBSCRIPTION .14.00 By Mail One Tear ... . 1.00 By Mail Six Months . . 1.50 By Mall Three Months .60 .. Month One Mall By .60 By Carrier One Month Pay No Money to Carriers Entered as second-clas- s ria'ter at the Postofflce at Ogden. Utah, under Act Of Congress of March 2, 1879. M. F. CUNNINGHAM.. Manafl Editor B. A. BOWMAN.. Business Manager NOTICE TO SUBSCRIBERS i from GOOD WORK. KIESEL Is the receiving FRET) J. of the press of the sta'e in hla determination to have Utah fittingly represented next month at the Irrigation Congress at New Mexico. The papers published in Salt Lake City hav been particularly enthusiastic In boosting the enterprise. For once nt least a proposition la presented upon which all the dailies of the capital can unite. Thla good feeling is reflected in the papers throughout the entire state. It is a good move that Mr. Kieeel is promoting. Utah has won splendid victories in other congresses unj has benefited greetly thereby. Valuable advertising for this state has gons throughout tha country aa a result of the showing made with fruit, vegetables and grains In these congresses. Good cltlsens end much capital have come to the state aa tha direct result of the -honing. Equally good results will follow a fitting exhibit made at tha congress to be held In Albuquerque which will be- the best ever held, if all promises a r redeemed. This year Utah la In splendid condition to make a fine ahowlng from her orchards and fields. The crops ars unusually gooJ, and although the distance to Albuquerque Is greatly making It difficult to get fruit there In the beat condition, this obstacle can be overcome. The etate should thla veer eclipse nil prevloue exhibits, and Ogden should piny an' Important part in the enterprise. After a'l 66,000 Is not n large sum to expend for advertising the resources of the atate, and with a man of Mr. Klesel'a energy nt the head of the movement, it Is not surprising that the money Is forthcoming. It will not be surprising If after the cloee of the Albuquerque congress It la discovered that Utah has again carried off tha honors among her slater states of the semi arid west. Albe-querau- thf undersigned. UnJer no circumstances will carriers er cel lectors be allowed te take stops. All notices of this kind must be given te this effioe direct er by letter, er in persen, er phone 664, one ring. JOURNAL PUBLI8H.NQ CO, MR. HARRIMAN'S KIESELS MR. Tou should receive your paper not later than 7:00 p. m. If not received at that hour call Phone l and it alii be sent you by special messenger. No paper delivered after 7 p.m. Pay ns money to carrier or ether collectors unless they present ercdsn-tisl- s Nil SIT. would have been little in the visit in Ogden yesterday of E. H, Harrlman were it not for the general impression out that a combination of soma sort has been formed between Mr. Harrlman and George J. Gould. The exact nature of this combination or working agreement will not be made publio by either Har-riina- n or Gould; but whatever its nature it la certain to work' to the advantage of this action of the country In particular because of the tremendous problems to be worked out on both the Harrlman and Gould systems. In hla expressions as to the business and Industrial outlook Mr. Harrlman la TIEUk e, - . conservative, but at the asms time decidedly optimistic. He does not expect to see booming times on the railroad such as prevailed before the panic of last fxH, but be announces that conditions art getting back to a normal basis, and that while money la still hard to get for large undertakings, all necessary work will be pushed forward. Thla means great deal for thla vicinity. Mr, Harrlmana control of the Union Pacific, the Southern Pacific and the Oregon Short Line has long made GENERAL APATHY IN COMMAND him the dominating influence In transcourse It U early yet to make portation matters In this section; and now since he has entered Into some predictions aa to the nature of sort of combination with the Goulds the campaign this country is to have by which his Influence Is to be felt in. between now and November, but up to the Rio Grande system and tha West- - jdse General Apathy seems to be in ern Pacific, he will be more than ever complete command. Voters refuse ab-- a great power for the upbuilding ofSolutely to become excited. There la the west Long since j less partisan bitterness, and a better he became the greatest Individual ! general feeling than has existed In force that ever figured In th railroad j years. All this may change; the fur world. (may be made to fly before the end of It will be reassuring, too, to know 'the battle; voters may line up more that Mr. Harrlman nttnehea so little positively than In anv recent fight; It must be confessed that there are Importance to the presidential cam-jknt palgn In Its probable influence on bust-- 1 few Indications of such a line-u- p ness and Industry, In his opinion It, this time. There la an amount of make little difference whether j difference that Is appalling to the Taft or Mr. Bryan wins nt tha.tlcai politician. Bailies are called and polls na their policies with reference. big Inducements are held out but the to the railroads are so neariy alike. 'voters remain nwny. Men who have On tha whole what he has to say is keen known aa ataunch battlers for that work la their respective parties In past cam- reassuring and the being resumed on nil of hla western pntgne now openly assert that they roads, la the beet proof that ha to sin- care .very little whether Taft, Bryan or Hearat la successful this fail. It Is cere In what he says. difficult t get at the reaeone for thla THE CRUSADE AGAINST BETS. condition. Whether It la n good condition 0r otherwise depends altogether good effects of the crusade upon how the strict Party man looks Charles E. Hughes of New at things. Tork has been directing against race track gambling are becoming mani- CITY WITH TOUGH LUCK. fest. A movement has Just been. started by the men at the head of the great pERSOKS who get the Impression that they are having a hard time baseball leagues to cut out betting at all ball games. All gambling la barred of it In the world, and that their by the constitution under which the home city la having a hard time of it baseball leagues operate, but thla see- -' to overcome its troubles should con- tlon has been flagrantly violated. And eider Fernie, British Columbia, the now that betting Is shut off at the , "Pittsburg of Canada." Here is the rate tracks the gamblers are flocking record of this little city at to the baseball games as u substitute . given by the Seattle Times: Founded in 1897. for horse races. This makes It neces-- 1 nary for the baseball magnates to en- -j May 22, 1902. Explosion In No. 2 force the rule agalrst gambling aa a mine killed 128 men. matter of to say noth-- 1 A strike followed, which closed all Ing of the principle Involve!. Pres- - the mines for three months. Went Ban Johnson of the Amerln January j. ioi. Beginning of hii 'taken strong ground for ond big strike, which suspended mln-th- e suppression of nil gambling at lng until April 1. when permanent ball games, and no doubt hla Initiative peace agreement was reached, will be indorsed by all other men In April 2 lm. Center of c!ty de authority In the greater baeeball world, .tvoyed by fire, Loos a half a mll- lion. MR. PARKER IN THE OPEN. June, J906. Disastrous. floods. August 1. 1998. Entire town and impression of the 8tate Journ IN thla Is given a statement from City En- large portion of Elk Valley wiped out forest fires.': Loss 68,000.000. Lives gineer A. F. Parkrr that will be reed; by with considerable Interest at thla time Inst, from 100 to 200. when the question of the purchase of Naturally it would be supposed that the waterworks plant now In existence after this last calamity Fernie would is the chief problem before the tax- - give up the ghost and surrender to however, is not the case. , payers of tha city. Mr. Parker goes fate. Such, Into the question at considerable length Reports that come from that part of aw to the effect thet Per and it is well that he does. Because of, lh be rebuilt and made a better the position he bee held ln the city for a number of years, because of hie In-- 1 nl greater city than ever. Adver tlmate relations with the water prob - ity will often bring out the good lem that has been up In on form or j qualities of a town .just as surely as it another for so many years, and because ' develops thetrue character of a man. -- ! Intcr-mounta- O ln ut In-w- ill prac-Jud- ge TIE ( sec-leag- ue J J - I t, 1908. CITY ENGINEER A F. PARKER ARGUES FOR THE PURCHASE OF THEiWATERWORKS SYSTEM City Engineer A. F. Parker, at the re- - tract came into being to the worry ual expense, dissatisfaction, paying condition which for the be: ; ,..re quest of the State Journal, gives his tlie consumer and taxpayer, the cry profits and dividends to privets cor- of the taxpayers should be , U views on the question of the purchase! has been the same; thousands of dol- - poration , and thus submitting to dou- public ownership and conn by the city of the present waterworks tain it has cost in th courts, and the ble taxation be avoided. "2. The same undesirable ir Reduce Water Rates. system. Because of Mr. Parker's long taxpayer ha paid the bills therewill continue to exist so 1....,"And 'some say reduoe the water and intimate association with this for, and paid, at the same time, the waterworks and supply are unj.-troublesome problem and because of water rates, which have not only paid rates. This will help some. It will trot of any other than i,.- - t,ub ' the position he holds his views are giv- the costs of the other side' of suits not, however, remove a single objection to the same shouio ;..r title Hence, en at considerable length. They will but hare probab y netted the oompany to private ownership; it will not abate Is 4. not It the best or million dol- one wnit the feeling of the people that repay a careful perusal on the part of to date much over pr4 to tlcal relieve way the to or cltlsen not lars. are their reach their due a any dealring proper they getting have ... new build Ogden u City conclusion. Ur. Parker says: "Have conditions changed so It is desire to own the system; it will not competition with the 'Many men of many minds could reasonable to expect better results prevent misunderstandings, y or t0 fiv a franchise to another not well have a better Illustration now than In tha past on the same prop- or costs for hydrant renta.a; it will not than regarding the waterworks of Og- ositions? The horse may be led to prevent the corporation paying divl- - company. 5.' Nothing short of den City. With ail the different opin- water, but how to make him drink U denda on th money invested, beside punl.r. the .taxpayers and am;, trouble ions one point alone is agreed upon the question. on satisfy malnten interest bonds, paying all and a litigation. Price la Too Great. nee, repairs, renewals, extensions, cost by all persons. The price of the water "Still another says. The price to be of suits, etc. lu other words th1 rates "The present status of the water to supply is not satisfactory, a change, paid is too great. It Is probable that cannot be made lower than will Py a the taxpayers has been iiuTe.,sii.g. 7. Th price of the wut,.rw..rki something different ia needed. But persons who argue thus are Influenced proper profit besides the expenses, for u what ahall the change be? What shall mostly by the commercial value of that would amount to confiscation. the taxpayers will continue tj in. be done to overcome the present unsat- the present physical system, aa a busi"It does not put the profits where crease. "8- - The furnishing of wat-- r ness proposition alone, without attach- they belong, vlx: with the taxpayers isfactory conditions to value to and ing troubles The franchise, same and Build a Naw System. old objections any growth, City Is a profitable buin,.M. ha "One enys, Build a new system. prospective values and profits, or any exist, only the cost to the individual commercial value and will produo, revenue Thla means that the city shall tax the consideration given to existing condi- taxpayer may be very slightly less. "9. The profits and therefore ths No good business man should or people to build a system to be oper- tions. The price proposed now to pny ated ln competition with the present is considerable greater than the sys- would hesitate at a small Increase In value of the waterworks must and system which la owned by some of tem could have been bought for In the present expense to clear up so unsatis- will Increase with the growth of Ogden Ogden's heaviest taxpayers. Th dif- past. It Is also sure that the coat la- factory a condition in his own. af- City. ofTO. It is leasable tor Ogd-- n ficulty of taxing people to pay for a ter will be greater If the present fairs, especially when it Is plain that it City ta fer and th value the to rejected; must be successful in the end. In such to administer and conduct the watesystem of waterworks to compete with owners will be continue to greater cases th present expense la amply rworks business as well and and destroy the value of their own pio.ltably waterworks system can be seen at once. year by year and so it follows that Justified, unless a better way con be as for any one to do so. will to the city It would ba practical confiscation, and the price "11. If It is feasable and proStabl shown. would hardly hold water. which la continue to rise. Other citlee have Give a franchise for Individuals or corporations to build, "And another says what a waterworks system should da had this experience; vis, rejecting the to another corporation. This can be improve and extend waterworks by Tha city cannot well fight Its own sup- purchase of waterworks from time to done If any be found borrowing capital (which is always can corporation porters In such a manner. Again, time because considered too high ln anxious to iuvest money, to enter Into done In such cases ). It is just as leaswhere is the water to come from? The price. Each time the attempt to purwas made the previous price and competition and divide business with ableso.and profitable for' Ogden City to present company ha its troubles to chase aa eatablshed water system. Any par- do obtain an adequate supply; none of commercial value of the physical sys"12. It ta better for the taxpayers considering asuch an Investment that can be thought of. Th avail- tem causing rejection until the price, ty consumers to support and pay and ores ee could would It that only surely able water In the Bench Canal, Strongs reached such proportions aa to be pro- result water rentals to a public waterworks lawof to loss business both, in hibitive. And now need such place Canyon, and all that can be had near ln time pay suits and finally the purchase of one and supply, which waby wlU be but little more than half and desire the ownership of th of debt, and at the same time Meanties or consolidation. other the more by than terworks and ever, clearly the quantity needed. Nothing .then that som of their earlier offers while the taxpayer is paying to sup- give better service, than to support remains but to g0 further, and all and pay water rentals for a prlvs water Is needed for irrigation and thus at what then seemed exhorbltant port both corporations, but getting a benefit. more now. return corporation in than Impractical to condemn or purchase, prices, would have been very profitable nothing "16. No corporation will conduct the sys"And another still says taken of.. If buy realise advantage They build reservoirs and conserve g suptem for the best price obtainable. In the business of supplying water ts ply by impounding the waste or flood when too late, that they hav been thla then will necessarily be Ogden City without a profit. of tha water rates of doing folly guilty paying waters. 14. Thera ta no better way to clear to to raise, but aa different from a who hav money proprivate corporation the "Then, again, site for distributing taxthe present undesirable condition up new fited In a tat the beside system, dividends, city building thereby or pressure reservoirs near town: Th? Present company has the only site providing them (the water company), payers are at ones placed- In possession that to buy the present system with all where such can be built for a reason- with th money to carry on suits at of a water system, complete so tar as its franchises, rights and privileges It extends, together with all of its in- at tha lowest price the owners will able sum. No other site exists where taw with themaelvea( th which same tha cheercome have taxpayers (paid also by said taxpayers), no sell for, and to do eo now. the lay of the ground la so favorable "Finally search, weigh and consider for cheap construction as th basin fully! ?) paid tha taxes to meet, aa well trouble of suite, money to raise for hyaa above fourteen facts carefully, the tha aide of expenaea no water of the for of drant rentals, stinting ownsd by tii waterworks company djfi south of tbeir present reservoir,' for uch suits. And after all this folly of public purpoaea, etc. This system, ad- thoughtfully and withal honestly; twist It must be remembered that the choice years of time, the need and desire to mittedly defective and Imperfect,. can and distort them in every possible of location ia oonflned to near that acquire title to the waterworks ia Just be .added to, extended, maintained and way, without destroying the identity as strong as at first but, look at tha repaired same elevation. by the city Just as well as by of any statement and It will be found Higher means toa great pressure, lower too little pres- price observe tha beautiful propor- any private corporation, and tba people ihat at the bottom all statements an tion! to which It bM grown. sure. Departure from about that cold, uncompromising hard, get the benefits. None will. and non History Will Rspsat Itaslf. can only be overcome by two ;an provide Ogden City with water facta, which cannot be controverted or reservoirs at and "Such history will repeat Itse'-- In without making a profit from doing so. changed in any vital particular, save It thus two systems; one for the higher Ogden If the present offer la not ac- The city can do the same by remov- be apparently done by playi upon part of the city and on for the low-e- r. cepted and tha system purchased now. ing control from politics and under a words or fanciful and Imagtnaiy InThis meens money. Also the re- If the present offer ta rejected the stock commission, and ths people will be the terpretations. All study of the matter of municmaining available sites will probably' of the present company will probably beneficiaries, and reap the profits inInto hands. other Ths has pass Its ths to be city once ipal at imlined ownership of waterworks, stead of with require the stockholders of a corporapervious material, which Is a good regular growth from year to year, tion. With the old imperfect system bonding of a pity to pay for same, the which w all have a right to expect or cities, thing, but it costs money. once control Ogden City can go history and experience of least hope for; the water company on under at Cost ef Connections Alone. same as any corporation would targe and small, without exception the also adds to Its system to meet such do and meet the growth and demands point to the tact that It ts better at "Then, further, the costs of changrenewals of tha growth,' makes extensions, ing private connections. The new sys- and city that la to bs, providing ad- any cost for a city to own and control Improvements as It Is obliged to cantem cannot be laid right against the extensions, water supplies, new Its own waterworks. Thf same of ditions, do; fights the same old battles over ownership said be of not pipes of the old system; new connec- and over as needed. better municipal etc., Nay, ln the court meanwhile (for works, tions require not only the tapping of for there apand' than a private corporation, for de- all other public utilities, which the the taxpayers pay bills) th main, new corporation cock and as to Its adto be doubt extengrave pears mands for and Improvements wlead bend, but additional pipe and while the council may reduce the wa- sions, firs protection, etc will be more visability save In the one case of ter rates to som extent, will continue pure, A good, and aterworks trenching. On pnved streets thla li to not met. supply. It must pay regular dividends on th stock. freely granted and costly. be overlooked, that Just ln ths degree aura and ample water supply is as vital a Whenever Is to proposition buy "Taking the present 6.700 (about) that the water rates of a private cor- to the well being and prosepertty of connections In this city, Urge and smal brought forward, the price each time are reduced, ln Just suck de- municipality aa la good, purs blood to poration will be found to be greater; and Just so Indpaved and unpaved streets, tha average ns th waterworks are owned by gree will the difficulty of enforcing im- the health and well being of an .coat of changing each will not ba tar long ta the one hlng for which ividual. InIt such with be provements company from 612.00 or 644,400. But not .All a Private corporation, tha citlsena will creased. Pressure cannot be placed on the need la Imperative, ths demand be dissatisfied and want to buy, and would be changed. Every one changed a corporation without retaliation, and universal and never changing, except means cost to tha consumer, revenue Just so surely the cost will be greater that retaliation In the case of water- for more always more. This distito from time and time, all this during to the city and ioaa In the present works takes the form of refusing to do nguishes it from ail cither public utilities time of trouble, worry, suits, and every one not changed vice until forced, and the forcing and ta tha foundation of the reaeoa In things tha control company vrwm." Not here how pUIn Is the tact costs why the city should own and control money, trouble, and hard of taking from the income of the pres- pockets the proceeds of the system, It. On account of Ita universal need much ones It. ln These of who the paid re It. by feeling fighting ent company and taxing them at the ita revenues are sure to neve? same time to do so. Will th taw stand Truly some persons must like a double things will be always, thus so long as by all, falL the for us. Adam of see with to remains taxation; by they heritage refusing for such methods? It might make a th benefit of purchasing and thus So the best way to avoid ta to eliminate If there la a better way than to buy difference if the owners of the present for ths the method to the best In in which up continue Situation, by waterworks, let the reasons can sight, system were not at the same "time clearing. all so pay the water rentals for the benefit this case seems, to get control of ths uch a way be given clearly among the heaviest o the payeta of of a private corporation and pay taxes water system at any cost. W cannot If the reasons are better than taxes. general also to fight the earn company, thus then well quarrel with ourselves, and herein stated such a way should he Cost of the System. supplying the sinews of war for both the profits go to the proper place. .. adopted as soon as shown." "Finally, coat: The old ajiwtem sides of the quarrel. "The water could be supplied for could be duplicated for 6300.000 (about) Fair Offer t City. free of charge, which cannot MR. MAULES POSITION parking when there were no paved streets. The present company, composed of be done under the present franchise, ON WATER PROBLEM Since paving and macadamising have res pec tel cltlsens of Ogden, has a but would be of great benefit to the been don the cost would be more. very reasonable and excuse residents and by promoting parking Ogden, Utah. Aug. . While the duplication could be made for selling at this timeprobable rein the fact of improve the appearance of the whole Utah State Journal: Your for said sum. In the same manner, at cltlsens Waterworks' and neighbors and city. A better supply could be bad for port of Talk About with, being rnn materials, in Mine meeting place and friends of those who object to private all municipal purposes; Commerce of Chamber gutters and' th with same o it by no means ownership and Its methods with n pubpaved streets could be washed out' and says Geo. E. Maule gave Me views follows that a system can be built lic utility like waterworks. In selling flushed; a better fire protection could the proposition, and appeared to fv alongside. the old, larger, of better ma- the members of the company will es- be the voting of the bonds next month, afforded, etc. terials, and in a better manner, which cape the blame, the approbium which Is no way to rebuild a satly there And another says, lt will injure nil win admit desirable, and with a now attaches to the con- our corporation If such was the appear tory plant" to have such an city's prosperity different source of water supply (by trolling the water system. Being loyal Increase in bonded Indebtedness,' It ance of the views given, the eppearan reservoir probably), longer and larger citlsena the first thought would probwill probably Injure 'the city more 1a was deceptive. I am opposed to main conduits, unfavorable distributive ably be to sell to the on city. That offer sight of prosepectlve citlsena and In- purchase of tha waterworks reservoir sites to contend with, etc, rejected, to make no leas favorable vestors in council, the pity plan arranged by real estate to know which are nil unavoidable, for any- bargain with others, to escape reproach that moneyOgden's' ll tax feature, ana must be constantly, paid peciaily the where near the cost of duplicating the to themselves. tn a private corporation to profit by emphatically do not favor votingsta old system. Tf the system with all of It fran- to the of The bonds. latter part It would be entirely possible for chises, rights, privileges, prospective and have an Unsatisfactory water supto rebuild the actual necessary coat to b four growth. Increased values, etc, la profit- ply with no relief In sight, than to ment, If there la no way ? do I have a debt with revenues coming In satisfactory plant" timed greater. Then when nil la dona able to private Investors, it la the city surely mean stand, for It if to at heavy cost the competition with more desirable and profitable to the liquidate and better and more gencompetitive system. I ,B . the present company, reduced reve- taxpayer. The affairs of the water sys- eral water supply and fire protection. build " From the foregoing the following posed to that Aa the company nues to both, restraining orders, in- tem can be administered with I m1" great fourteen a from city. the franchise statements may be formulated junctions, suits nt taw. etc, s;ill re- economy by the city, if removed from that Its rights aa grantee sh"uW main to plague and cost still more political Influence and placed In the and labeled Tecta: what the "I. . Waterworks and supply Is a respected. Irrespective of french". money. hands of s commission to serve withwill allow, and no other Bring Present Company te Tim out' pny and appointed at targe from public utility which beyond question bul't 'And another says make the present among the most conservative and. cap- should net be In the hands of a private given or waterworks, be last as exdept city, ; to' th Its franchise company live up able business men. The revenues would company, or corporation." , gross 'and persistent violt'ort ffo thus and so. 2. The franchises, Much easier said pot best hen charged with taxes, or the waterworks, and provisions of the franchise by the co than, done, at ta .evidenced, iy .past city government with hydrant reata Ogden City, being unijtrjpany hold tag 'it. Respectfully. events. . Ever since the Both well con etc. In thla way only can th contin - j private,,for control, makes an unQeMrabisI ' . CEO m. UAUL&r J . j . 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