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Show 6 Saturday. October 12, 1909 kftofe mflfc f&R z-- F ORUM lH hT HH Ukesd Review STREET TALK... What residents of Davis County think about the issues What about outcome of presidential debates? President Bill Clinton and Republican challenger Bob Dole met face to face Sunday evening for a televised debate. The debate highlighted differences on schools, taxes and Whitewater. Entering the debate Clinton was ahead of Dole by a dozen points in most national polls and surveys. The two will meet again for another encounter because of the controversial decision to exclude Ross Perot from the debate. Clinton said he thought American people got an accurate picture of the differences in the election, while Dole brought up the subject of Whitewater pardons. The Lakeside Review asked some passers-b- y if they watched the debates, why they watched or why they didnt watch, who they thought had won, and whether or not the debates changed their minds on who they would vote for. Deanne Rudd Bountiful I- -! v- ' ' i r ': I did not, I had other commitments and I havent paid attention. I would say it was probably because I have made up my mind. I have been busy and havent had the time to sit down and watch anything or read anything. Im interested in the economic condition of the country and Im sure they did discuss that in depth and I probably missed it - world events, whats going on in the Middle East, those kind of things. Carmen Pyper Layton I heard it while I was doing something else. I .. Land grab hurt Southern Utah By VIC SAUNDERS GUEST COLUMN Ulan Farm Bureau Federation Utah's Kaiparowitz Southern is a colorful yet Water is scarce in this slickrock desert, and what wildlife exists there consists mostly of lizards and other desert clean, and is highly prized for this environmental benefit, particulareastern ly in electricity-starve- d U.S. cities and the Pacific Rim. Families saw the mine as a way to stay on their ranches and, hopefully, provide a way to keep their children from moving away to seek jobs in Denver, Salt Lake City, or Phoenix. But with the stoke of a pen. President Clinton ended all that. After precious little discussion with Utah's governor and congressional delegation, and with no input at all from the local population whose lives would be severely impacted, the President species. Life in an upland desert environment is hard. The people living in the region eke out a living on ranches hundreds of years old, or work off the ranch in jobs in the petroleum, mining or the minimum w?ge, tourism service industries. A desert highlands timber industry, once very productive and a good wage earner for these families, was recently closed after environmentalists succeeded in adding new regulations which made this industry designated almost two million acres of southern Utah as a new monument. Utah already had five national parks and six national monuments. Seventy percent of our lands already belonged to the federal government, and almost four million acres of that is off limits to any economic development because of wilderness des unprofitable. Its no wonder, then, that many of these ranch families were looking forward to the opportunity offered by a proposed underground coal mining development in this hoscoal tile country. TTie found in southern Utah bums trillion-doll- ar low-sulf- ur ignation or the potential for it. It wasn't as if the government didnt already control the use of most of the land. So why did the President take this bold'' move? Perit is haps political payback to the Robert Redfords and Barbara Streisands of the world, who promised to deliver the environmental vote in election-criticCalifornia if he would make a significant offering to their so-call- al cause. That offering proved to be the lives, hopes and dreams of the residents of southern Utah, crushed in favor of the Grand s of the Escalante National Monument. What is a concern, though, is Staircase-Canyon- the reality that our society has now reached a point where a privileged, affluent few, in this case the activist environmental community, can callously disregard and barter the hopes, dreams and aspirations of another group of people in exchange for a victory notch in their agenda, in this case, that of envi- ronmental religion. They played the political game and won. But while legal, what President Clinton did in southern Utah is far from being right. People who live in little towns like Kanab, Escalante and Boulder, Utah were, helpless in stopping the President. A sign at a rally in Kanab the day of the signing perhaps said it all. We, the people" had been crossed out, and in its place were the words, 1, the President". This was a federal land grab of the worst kind; one for political gain. Those who treasure honesty and forthrightness, who are unafraid to press their cause in the light of day rather than under the shroud of darkness and secrecy, can only hope that what happened to the people of southern Utah is an aberration, and not the sign of things to come. If not, then Sept. 18, 1996, will go down in the history of this country as the day honesty and decency totally vanished from our democratic process. Vic Saunders is vice president of communications for the Utah Farm Bureau Federation. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR son that the students couldnt take the sign and whatever gar- bage there was with them. Seems to me that Northridge High School should take more pride in their school than to leave a mess behind them wherever they go. I dont think it was a very nice thank-yo- u for the person who let your school use the field for your activity, and it doesnt leave a Eight-da- y their opinions and experiences while traveling, but I for one felt a letter was in order as I just trip to completed an eight-da- y your state. Websters dictionary would have to be utilized to describe my matter. Its a shame that someone had to write a letter to remind you to take pride in your school and community. I used to think that Northridge High School was a good school with a good reputation, but now I think that reputation has been dragged through the mud. Maybe next time youll take a few minutes more to clean up afterwards and leave the place looking better than you found it. It would sure make your school look good and make my drive home from work everyday a lot more pleasant. Name on file area, Unita National Forest, Manti-L- a Sal National Forest, Wasatch-Cach- e National Forest, Moab, Snowbird, Park City and every town, city and named place in their encompassing area. I have traveled through some 44 states and into Canada as well, and my future goal is to re- some, beautiful and inspiring turn to Utah and see both the northern and far southern parts of the state. managed to travel to include: Great Salt Lake, Kennecott, Arches National Park, Flaming Gorge National recreation area. Dinosaur Quarry, The Salt Lake Mormon Tabernacle, Temple Square, High Unita wilderness We live in a great nation and each of you have a great state in its own right and with that I will end with: Happy Centennial and your celebration of 100 years of Statehood and best wishes to the 2002 Olympic Winter Games. Milton E. Rider Hagerstown, MD nearly 1,800 miles of travel. Awe- would be perhaps three choices, plus friendly. A few of the places that I n - good impression on the surrounding community or other high schools in the area for that trip revealed wonders of Utah Ladies and gentlemen, citizens of Utah, I dont know how many people write to you and give you time I will watch the next one. When two people are running Id like them to talk about issues that are important to me -taxation is important, trade, the deficit, social is- -' sues that effect many different classes of Americans. I dont know if they talked about them or not, I was too busy working on my computer. I Dennis Moore Bountiful No, I did not, because I had a lot of things that were probably more important for me to do. Yes I have heard reports on it. Some said defi- nitely Dole won, some said Clinton won. The analyst was right, he said when the debate was over no one moved. Everybody was still voting the same, so that means Dole lost. For Dole to win he had to get supporters to move, because he was already behind. So staying the same is not a tie. No it didnt change my mind. Ill most likely not (watch the next one) because even now I feel that I have something better to do. Denise Maisak No I didnt watch. I think they are really boring and I didnt want to watch it. I have read about it and on the news everybody said Clinton won. No, because I already had my mind made up, before the debate, on the candidate I was going to vote for. I despise politics. Kanab citizens made entire state look bad Neighbor concerned about NHS garbage As I drove down Gordon Avenue on Oct. 1st, I noticed North-ridg- e High Schools mud football activity taking place. Then when I drove by again on Oct. 2nd, I noticed all kinds of garbage left on the ground and their sign left hanging on a telephone pole. I was very disappointed that the area was not taken care of after the activity. There was no rea- wasnt paying close attention. It didn't change my mind, because I didn't listen to it. If I have To the citizens of Kanab County: My name is Jenafer Birt, and I am a senior at Layton High School, and I am also a con- cerned citizen. I would like to comment on your acts recently prior to President Clinton announcing the National Monument. I can understand you being upset, but your acts were absolutely absurd. It is one thing to disrespect our President by saying Shame on you, Bill, but it is another thing to disrespect our country by hanging our American Flag upside down, to which so many courageous men and women lost their lives for. I truly believe that there could have been some other way to handle this situation, but instead of handling it rationally you not only made yourselves look bad, but our state also. I believe that you should make a public apology not only to our President, but to all the citizens of this great country, which we should all be proud to live in. Jenafer L. Bin Layton Saunders appreciates chance to share message As deputy campaign manager for Greg Sanders, I want to thank the towns which invited us to their community fairs and events. Since early on the morning of July 4th, we visited the following: West Point, Clinton, Kaysville, Layton. Clearfield. Sunset, Washington Terrace, Roy, Tooele, Standard-ExaminRun, the Weer ber County Fair, the Davis County Fair, the Box Elder County Fair, Wellsville Parade and Peach Days. I cant begin to count the yards of string and thousands of balloons we have handed out. But beyond the balloons and bumper stickers, I would like to express our appreciation to each of the citizens who introduced themselves and let us know their concerns for their towns and this great state. Greg will make a point of attending even more of these local events next year. We want many more of the fine citizens of the 1st Congressional District to be able to personally give their opinions to their congressman. The constituents should be able to express their ideas of the direction in which Utah should be heading and what role government should or should not be taking. Our district is growing very quickly. People are moving to Utah from across the country and from around the world. Why? Because the unique lifestyle, values and natural beauty Utah offers. We need a vision of Utah which projects into the next century. Your input at fairs and other community events teamed with our willingness to listen makes that possible. With your help we can continue down the trail we have begun blazing. Mark Richards Deputy campaign manager Sanders for Congress Committee Suzanne Storer West Jordan I watched just during commercials, because thats when my husband would let me. From what I saw, I think they both did a good job. Im not a Clinton fan, but I was a little disappointed in Bob Dole in the parts that I saw, but I thought they both did a really good job. It didnt change my mind, because I was undecided and Im still undecided about who to vote for. Dan Williams Malad, Idaho We are only 13 miles across the border so we are almost Utah. Yes, I listened to the presidential debate. Well, I thought it was very, very close. I dont know as if you could pick a winner, but I think they kind of stayed about where they were. Im a Democrat and would like to say Clinton won it big, but Id have to say it was fairly close. It didn't my views any. I thought it was a very interesting debate. I expect the next one is going to get a little tougher, then maybe it will make a difference. Ive really been into it quite a bit. To be honest with you, Im sick and tired of hearing Dole complain or bring up his World War II injury, you see I was there. I was in Patton's Army and I forgot that. Of course I can see he cant forget because his right arm is gone. But I think its high time they quit bringing that into play and insinuating Clinton didnt go to war. There is a lot of difference in WW II and the Vietnam War. There was a lot of our people who really didnt believe in the Vietnam War. World War II, we didn't join we were drafted, shortly out of high school, thats all there was too it. Im sure if that had been the case in Clinton's time he would have done the same thing. |