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Show The Public Forum Tribune Header rporls (lliild I. cii an hild neglect situation upp.ii in rod in my neighbor hi m mJ I took ihc mi i '..mvc and cunl. idl'd mu Stjic Sun.il So .mi"' )cmi triient .md explained tlic plight I ttll'Sl' l til Ull I'll i was a'smed t lie v would investigate .md ,i is tuld I would tic contacted .is to lie out mm' 'I wo weeks Idler I witnessed these i till )i ell ill the some condition again i out ji led Soii.il Set ices and was told they had been iieuei esslul contacting the iluldien and he p.iienls had never answeied a leltei ol niUit y sent out to them I 1 Was (idd It would he I token i.ne with chi ceiii Many lecipients arc du n to suppui t working hard un one oi two low paying jobs every day who ate unable to suppoil then families on what they an being paid Many arc widows m muihiis who tune been descried I lealle there is some abuse. Ilaud and illicit among loud stamp uscis But should the innocent sutler such ltdiimdaUim and hu imitation because id Abe errors of a lew'1 It is to the jdv outage ol all. w hether phi laiithropist oi misairthiope. to tealie the weightier matter is tins Subtle, oppressive pieiederits ale established and made acceptable lust wbfii exercised upon the mme despised segments of society Then- is finally, no reward in giv .ng inn in helping another human being if it is done lieve ill many Gods whuli is puly theism All through the Bible God says tiicie is onlv one God U'pei ully ill Isalaln .old that God o spirit and those wlio worship him must woi slop Inm in spirit and in tiuilt. Ahnli blows awav Mol moil billet in God having a hodv Studying Mm monism one fa gins to see their theology is (ontiaiy to Christ's leai !i mgs which brings the emu lusuui that Mm mon s die not Christians This, makes them a non Clnistiaii cult C.S AKHl.NG'l 0S Ccntci v die it these ehildien ate in the same (oiidition md undoubtedly will lem.un so mill someone wit h enough power or cmli sill'll as a Inshnp Heliel Society ptesi dent oi other iiialilied i hutch leadet he Today nines tnudved I heliiwe this might he the reason we 'it'd! ol i Inidrcn wtio suiter and often die due to abusive iatents and wonder why nothing was done It appears unless it happens to .oineone in the local ward it is ignored Maybe someone did teputt these mci dents, but the just did not have the propel client lals DALE iNon-Chrisli- niKlS'I ENSEN ( lull an I agree with Kevin Knight (Forum. Uet 4i that a cult is a group of people who worship one leligion The issue is whether a cult is t hristian or which leads us to certain cult believes what Christ taught According to Mormon theology, they believe the Book ol Mormon to be the inspired word ol Uod and the Bible also (if translated correctly). Christ never taught this, tn fact m we re warned about other Galatians gospels presented by angels or others According to Mormon theology, ll you get married in the temple, do temple works and live a good lile you have a good chance id making it to the Celestial Kingdom, and live with your temple married wife hus- d a 1 Appropriate Stories so manv people misundei-stouthe news as to w lie! her Mot minis weie hull in the quakes in Mexico (as it happens, seveial weie killed and some ale still missII was no mm e and on less Ilian l ('porting that says "Six Ameru .ns weie in the plane crash." m "It is not yet known whether any Ctahns were involved President Reagan's ordering the interception and capture of the hijackers of the Achille Lauro has given all Americans good cause for pride and approval. What had seemed the virtual immunity of sive action terrorists in to IJ.S. re- taliation has been penctraed at last That doesnt mean the end of terrorism in the Middle East - probably Mr. Wicker quite the opposite and it doesn't mean that from now on all terrorists will be punished; that's possible only in special cases like that of the Achille Lauro. It does put terrorists on notice that the US. can and will act when circumstances make it possible, and it does give Americans every right to feel belter about their government's intent to pro eel them when possible. if. moreover, any cloud of international miliillegality hangs over the action of U.S. the down in Egyptian forcing tary planes uirimer that was carrying the four terrorists to presumed ireedom. it should be speedily Wspersed bv the facts of the matter First, safe passage had been guaranteed them onlv on condition that they had committed no acts of violence while they com manded the ship. Second, the Egyptian gov- ernment by accident or design misled Washington as to the whereabouts of the ter iki here are veiv many Moimons co and very many Mormons in Ctah 'I It seems Steve Webb (Forum Sept lb1 has (dated his head on the (hopping him k I lead with interest ax Clayton M White listed several examples of "new and ditlei-enspecies" that have evolved So much lot Steve Wchb s challenge Mr Webb ami others may wondet why Clay toil M While should be believed 1i White is a professor ol .oology (Phi) I oi versitv ol I tah. lytidi I'ntil Steve Webb can pioducc similar nedentiais. common sense motivates me to believe Ur White in Mexilurther-inurc- . t there aie some Ftah Mormons in Mexico, and it is natural fm people to fed slightly more concerned about those they consider closer kin That does not in any way diminish one s concern lor others Many Clali Mormons wept over the disaster I was certainly one ot them ANNE WING ATM I O t'll STKVK NELSON Knl 1 1 1 Provo Public I'orum letters must be submitted exclusively to The Tribune and bear writer's full name, signature and address. Names must be printed un political letters but may be withheld for good reason on others. Writers are limited to one letter every 10 days. Preferemr will be given to short, typewritten (dmible spaced) letters permitting use of the writers true name. All letters are subject to condensation. Mail to the Public Foriim. T he Salt Cake Tribune. P.O. Box 867, Salt Cake Cilv, I tah Klllll. John M. Fitzgerald (Forum. Uct 8) writes that women do not hold the pi icsthoud and "does tht discrimination now existing between men and women in the LDS Church come from God or finite, fallible men'." W'e will respond by asking Is the priest hood as found in the Church of Jesus Christ ot I utter-baSaints from God'1 If we answer "yes " we cannot then tell God whom to give ins pnesthoml to God has commanded that women not be oiduint'd to the priesthood W'e should obey God. not man Several times dining the past seveial recipients have opened their mailboxes to discover letters ol accusation and threat from a government ofluc. as a program called Project Accuracy is initialed. Guilty and innocent alike jre treated with reproach anil suspicion The letter warns that then house will be visited by an agent of this Project Accuracy recipients are not lazy bums nor criminals unworthy id cmpatliy m con food-stam- Food-stam- i dont control Priesthood Answers I nfair TrcatnNnl weeks, lead on tin Block 1 unsweiing "no we would hen wonanyone (man or womuif) would want to hold a priesthood that has no uuthuiity to act in God's name When Jesus Christ walked the earth, he in darned 12 apostles, all male. Perhaps Mr. Ftlgcrald should first take up the question of "discrimination" with deity, rather than rely on "finite, fallible men" for the answer RICHARD J WILLOUGHBY JILL A WILLOUGHBY Boimtilul Bv der p p w rorists after it became known that they had murdered the American. Leon Klinghoffer. In fact, as the world now knows, the terrorists' murder of Klinghoffer invalidated the guarantee as soon as the crime was discovered. And Egypt's confusing response appears to have made it impossible for either the U.S. or Italy the slates whose laws have been most seriously violated - to take custody of the terrorists by more conventional means than the aircraft ' intercept As Prime Minister Craxt of Italy pint it, consequent American action produced a result that "corresponds to a moral law that permits justice to lake its course." Only the narrowest possible interpretation of inter national law could see the capture of the terrorists in any other light. Ironically, the swift U.S. military operation may well have validated earlier contentions. by President Carter during the Iranian hostage crisis and Reagan during the TWA hijacking earlier this year, that practical measures could not be carried oixl in those cases This time, alert intelligence work gave what Reagan told Craxi was "reasonable-- ' certainty that the four Achille Lauro hijackers were aboard the Egyptian airliner, Thus, they could be pinpointed and appre- - j hended with little danger to the lives of inno-cent persons the kind of danger that would I accompany, say. a bombing raid on a village I suspected of harboring terrorists. That was not the case in the earlier incidents, and rarely will be again. To the question of whether Reagan would safe-passa- - Hea-gan'- i 1 William Raspberry have ordered the Egyptian plane shot down had it not followed instructions to land, the answer is almost certainly no. His restraint in the past has shown that he is not that kind ot man; and in this particular situation, how could he have ordered innocent persons the Egyptians aboard - killed after the strong language he used about the Soviet Union's destruction of Korean Air Lines Flight 007 in i9:r Some other cautionary notes may be useful Americans need to restrain, for one tiling, what some may regard as a justified bloodthirstiness - as expressed in the old frontier saying. "Give 'em a fair trial and string 'em up' - while the Achille Lauro hijackers face justice in Italian courts Americans' ablioi rence of terrorism rests on their own respect for law, which now must be allowed to take its course. In Italy, where the death penally has been abolished, that course cannot result in death for the hijackers. It can result in stiff prison sentences, perhaps for life; and so long as Italian courts proceed fairly and decisively. Americans will have no grounds for complaint about the outcome. Events in the Middle East, unfortunately, s may be stirred rather than calmed by retributorv stroke Terrorist retaliation in some form is almost certain to follow, perhaps :n ways not so open to a I S. counterblow The Palestine Liberation Organization. moreover, appears to have been besmirched anew by some degree of complicity in the Achille Lauro seizure, and that can only complicate any Middle East peace prucess that depends ultimately on Palestinian participation iJ Ym. I Mario Cuomo Hits Labels, Practices Mediagoguery News America Syndicate Asked by a loreignei who the greatest French poet was. Andre Gide replied, "Vie tor Hugo, alas." Just so. when visitors from abroad ask me who I think the Democratic presidential candidate is most likely to be in 1988, I answer, "Gov. Mario Cuomo of New York, alas. Cuomo has lately been protesting against political labels. Terms like liberal and conservative, he rightly complains, have become misleading and only serve as a substitute for thought Yet watching Cuomo himself in action. I have begun to realize that there are worse substitutes for thought in political discussion than labels. One such is what might be called which is to tin journalistic elites what demagoguery is to the masses But whereas the demagogue plays on popular passions, the mediagogue carefully cultivates the appearance of thoughtfulness that is esential to winning the attention and the respect ol Ins more sophisticated target aumedta-goguer- - dience. What, however, we learn from the case of Cuomo, perhaps the leading mediagogue of the day, is that beneath this thoughtful surface can lurk a ruthless disregard for the The Wax 1 1 - Was and ignoring the disease In their must re-- i ent actions, they have (1) gone out of their way to interfere in a settlement worked out between the city of Omaha and a g.i up clock-reversin- g blaik police offi- and ers (2) granted status to a Virginia school tha1 came into existence as i means of thwarting the Supreme Court s of desegregation decision In the Omaha case, the black officeis. disappointed that a new pool of 170 candidates for the police academy included only five blacks, took the matter to federal court rs. District Judge C Arlon Ream did not v how manv black, if any. must be lured, hi t lie did order the. it v to add 27 to 35 hi, o k 1954 applicants to the pool . y tit Now the Reagan administration has reversed that policy and given the academy its blessing It turns out that (according to its application to the IRS) the academy's board adopted an policy last year. It still lias no blaik students, mind you. but that is because none has applied It does, its statement boasted, tiarve American Indian. Vietnamese, Spanish. Gorman and French students l Well, Jan Ghee, the state NAACP presi del and a resident of Farmvtlle, understat ed g I am surprised to see that the aiade-itiy- . As meiely making a statement 'hat it discriminate, would be granted it' status back Nothing ha the in policies or procedures of ihamged Prince Edward Academy " Ghee's remark underlines the most striking aspect of the Reagan administrations obscs appivai h to racial discrimination iN sion vitli pioicss and its l,n k of mlcicsl m by diX"i t tax-exem- resuts An aitimnisu ai ion sciumsiy tom lined about scm g.ition disrtmnn.it ion and otliei Here are briefs from The Salt Lake Tribune of 100. fid and 25 years ago October 17, 1885 man by the name of Ross, who has a heio of horses on Prairie Dog. was lust lor three days and nights during last weeks snow storm A October 17. 1935 Members of the military alfairs commit tee of the House of Representatives are ex pected in Salt Lake City within the next two weeks to investigate the possibilities ol the local airport as one of the air defense bases provided by the last Congress October 17, 1960 Secretary of Agriculture Ezra Taft Benson hasn't had time to consider a statement in relation to a Draft Benson lor Governor movement Mimeographed letters uiging a write-ic ampaign for Sec Benson appeared on w automobiles parked Wednesday at the Cm versitv of Utah ' c ' race-specifi- t rca.-unabl- tion But lor tliuse m tins administration who tclieve the wrong side won the civil rights revolution. results arc a side is Given the (hone between an nleuiogi i ally pure uptuoucii and a Fiisimable out teal-worl- on .c tin line , t.i kt id. ul.Kit ... pm . I v n 1 impediments to equal oppoitumty would want some concrete evidence that Prince Edward Academy had mended its ways The presence of black students would be persuasive, but so would signs of a serious effort to recruit black students. But fur the who aie Reagan counterrevolutionaries, more comfortable with racism than remedies, the plain statement ol is enough An administration that understood and cared about the importance ol the appearance of racial fairness would want to know why Omaha, with a blai k population of upwards of 12pc'icnt w uld have a poiu e ci nut class of less than 3 pci cent It would be open to the possibility ot a explanation (and also open to the possibility that the numbers weie symptomatic of a wirier problem), but it would ask the ques i idedy-know- y-- e 5 That was enough to send the Justice Department counterrevolutionaries screaming "Quotas!" Department lawyers have asked Judge Beam to strike that part of his order calling foi adding blacks to the pool. Deputy City Attorney Jim Fellows is asking the feds to butt out. The city considers the matter settled and w ould prefer to get on with training the new officers it needs. Prince Edward County. Va became a national symbol of "massive resistance" when, rather than bow to the Supreme Court's 1954 desegregation decree, county olf'cials simply shut down the public-schoo- l svstem Black children in that ei onunucally depressed area either weie taught at home for the next fixe years, without any official support or concern, or else shipped olf to live with relatives. Whites, meanwhile, pooled their resources and opened the wlutes-onlPrince Edward Academy f There had been some limited i (insolation in the fact that the Internal Revenue Service had disallowed status for the school (as counter to public policy ). meaning the school would at least be subjei to lAlerai taxes and that contributions ip n would not be tax iledll.'t ihie distinctions that aie essential to intelligent analysis ot any and every kind For example, m Ins famous keynote speech to the Democratic National Convention in 1984 - the speech that turned him i overnight Irom a governor into a futuie presidential possibility - Cuomo dei lared that he saw no distinction between a family and a proper government " As recently as last summer he returned to the same theme, asserting again that he finds the idea ol tunuly an entirely "apt description of the kind of government I'd like to encouiage. Now even allowing Cuomo a certain poetic license ("You campaign in poetry, you govern in prose." he says in a capsule of his mcdiagogic skills), there is an appalling unwillingness or inability here to recognize the line that separates private life Irom the political realm More concretely, Cuomo takes no account of the difference between the obligations owed to one another by the members of a family as against those owed by each of us lo the government and by the government in turn to each of us By wijung out this crucial distinction. Cuomo provides the justification for an expansion of state lower and a license fo' gov crnmental inlrusivcnoss that go tar beyond even the wildest ambitions of welfare-statliberalism 11 that were why he has been denying that he is a liberal (though of course he denies it because being known as a "centrist" enhances his mcdiagogic appeal), I would agree with him. No liberal could accept so inherently authoritarian a conception ol government A socialist certainly could, even an benevolent monarchist could, bul never a liberal in any legitimate sense of that term Yet so rev erenl lal is Cuomo s attitude toward government that it might even embarrass a monarchist. Id alone a socialist For in addition to comparing government to a family, he elevates it - do not exaggerate to the status ol divinity Thus in a recent speech, drawing as he is so lend of doing on theological concepts (while of course demonstrating his mediago-giHair once again by simultaneously deploring the introiiui turn of private religious beliefs into politics', he remarks "Even our secularized world continues to argue whether individuals tan make it on their own or whether thev should receive some form of some help from government " grace If. as Cuomo tells us in this speech the idea that "individuals can make it on their own" is the modern form of the ancient heresy of 1elagiamsni, perhaps he will also tell us some day to which ancient heresy we can trace his own inability to sec the ditference between divine grace and a government not-ve- Reagans Racial Policy Doesnt Care About Results The Washington Post The counterrevoluWASHINGTON of the Reagan adminisphilosophers tionary tration arc at it again; attacking the remedy just wind Ym up. INurmun Podliojclz I hy U.S.s Fair Stroke Will Stir Middle East deci- A 17 9ili HONAIJ) BhCKSTEAD ''1 New York Times Service 7. ing) Tom Wicker NEW YORK Oi lulu r gi udgingly band Again. Christ never taught this, but taught that in the resurrection we are neither married nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels in heaven According to Mormon theology, God. Jesus and the Holy Ghost are one in purpose and three separate, distinct personages (Gods). God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost. Again, Christ never taught this. In fact, in the Bible Jesus specifically says that "Mv not one in Father and I are one." period just one purpose, nor one ill nature According to Mormon theology, they be- - lhurvJay, - am sony I he Salt Luke Tribune Opinions 111 Again I v . v handout Still another ex implc of Cuomo s w illful blindness to essential distinctions has ionic up in the debate ovt r AIDS Criticizing a recent column of mine which reported, on the authority of the medical experts, that AIDS is almost entirely a disease caught by men who bugger and arc buggered by dozens ot even hundreds of other men every year, Cuomo shot back "A hat about all the people who died ot heart attacks. who did it from obesity, gluttony It used to bo one of the big s.ns I will r drain out of dclu.uv from ' Gov Cuomo on the dittoreneo between homosexual buggery and gluttony But anyone who is un.iblc distinguish bo tweui these two sms' Cuomos vvonl not mine should lot his p.n t i oil .un Rom la lining to be a t In ii oil ul respeciei o! complexi- ty II I uonio should run tor ptesi. lent in 1988. this habit be has of trampling on vita! distinctions. disguised ami reinforced by his formidable gifts as a mediagogue. will do mol e to contuse the great questions of public do bate than even the most primitive resort lo simplistu pohtii al kill's It ts m p n c V,J'!.at ; i c p, , t o |