Show THEY HAVE HAV E SHOWN U W II 11 N L 1 T T L 1 E OR un aft NO FAITH tait wo n P independent A coal operators have been k of the jawbone class in carbon county some somo ery vital information gu au aall coal was drawn out from to witnesses beaole the joint legislative probing committee last week gomer thomas Tho roas coal atno inspector testified there had been bettl very little if it any attempt toy legitimate dent companies to operate coal minea mines and 11 0 williams general manager of the utah fuel ruel company test fled that while general commercial prosperity had increased gradually through recent ears that it had taken a tremor lous anict a sud ten len jump beginning with january 1 1 pas sing all anticipated bound and run ning away way with all precedent no hope wo ww held out for better coal conditions next winter the demand has increased por cent in southern Sout heru utah to io coal and over pr por cent la ta salt lake take almee the building of tha the garfield orti elters the utah fuel company hope 0 asang its output moe mo e than a few thousand thuu saud usand tons per oar the gove suits bringing into qt question estion tm title to collands coH lands have retarded development an au make it he the rill aih fuel company tit at leaah will dare ro to open mines antho on the questioned property until tho suits are determined it costs from fie friol hundred thousand to one million dol lorato open up a coal mine on a log ing basis and so 90 far gomer thoplas declared no independent compan companies lea have bae hod bad this capital instead they hove nive been chiefly promotion schemes and none nove have done eny any great extent of development or hake applied for care cars and rates tho first anater taken up ivas tho the cost of coil said that the average cst cf in utah on board cars can for transportation to salt lake was the miner at tit Suun silla gots gets flo cents a ton too it costs thirty for mater material ifil and ten coutie for haulage to the railroad figures vary in different mines enough to 0 o make a n total average of general manager Man ilger williams te testified stifled that the coat in hia his mines averaged 1 25 af pf pr r top he denied that the raj rac from gate to suit stilt lale ahe to bo be the fame r that from allow noa springs pring by reason of 0 an agreement he ano 1 donled choit the chodl in suit stilt fa hi kept ut at an agreed figaire tig fig ure tire following rol lol lowing the of both thomas and williams attorney ed waid aad allison arid and Atto tt orbey rhey parley b L Willi williams nuis representing te tho the mo big railroad railroads were glen a free opportunity to anasa them ahia waa was mado made much of b allison As to the price secured by the mince mines huttt ic it was 2 for lump coal 2 for n it t coal 1 CO go for miep run and sl 25 tor lor slack black to this Is added a rate of ip freight to salt labo lale to secure the figure from which the retailer begins to make profit ahat leaves a ton tor for the retailer and fifty fonts cents a ton for tho the def ivory wagon in figuring tho the total cost in the citizens coal bin aa to the general tendency in production thomas declared that thero there are now less miners employed than at any uny time in the last ten a in 1903 there were 2181 coal minera miners it in the state now thero there are am only 1895 tho the production on chii othor other hand has in creased by about 20 per cent duo due to tb better methods mot hodg electric electr lo trams in thu the mines 01 anes and the erection of convenient loading stations sta tlona the taulo car ha disappeared from the tile principal cipes on thie thill same topic that he lie could use more micens ilcy make mako over 3 50 per day but it fc Is I 1 hard to hold them IQ in ohio ail pennsylvania they era experiencing the same he said ae ad moa man would not remain at work in one place very the matter of transportation was taken up chomas declared that tho the rio grande started out in did id shape s h a po to face the winter wl n to r kwea ty new now locomotives were rut put into com 1 mission mis but within is very few almost elf alf ot 0 these had kufs au red dam 1 age and fourtou four teu put out of corn mission rb n the deep snow came rod and it was bani hard to buck the bilay in betting getting over soldier Su summit almit some home i tim e four en engines gins being required to V brio bring go over vcr one tine train in two to sections williams oo 00 this point destined tes tined that it re quiros over two yara to get now engines aal that tho railroad had doo dub 14 in lit its power to ret get the tile co il 11 out lind built spurs mud siding sidings and erected platforms forms allawa aon brought out the fact in cross examination that there are tire now more curs cars more eu ou gities and more general facilities than ever before nad tat during the recant recent coal famine tho the general superintendent the goner il manager the ile tt t I 1 ind ather ohi ciale had given their personal nt tit petition ten teti ion tion to the taah of moving col coal tillus and hul dinally created a site cial billee with a man mein whose cittee wen wert to so these train moed regardless of other traffic thomas threw throw a new light on the tile charges that coal had been del delved ed at hellei and mounds tn in long strings of cara cars he declared that the tile coal came to thesa points in n strings to bo made up into trains there anti that all tho tile coal brought in one day jay was mud mu d the next day this and tc to an erroneous opinion that the ars were delaa ed there the grade oer the mountain is a twenty miles long four and from 3 to 4 per beur thomas thought this accord ed for the rat although he thought I 1 it t was wits a little hufh the in salt lul 3 last jear ear war wair tous toos the tile demand has unit increased per cent within the the cheout output bas has only increased 30 percent anu aua it is pot not capable of much more inore in crease there is now an annual out put of tons and alid the limit Is under tons 1 ss than 12 per cent of the tile bo rio grands grande e coal and yke johe le deives atves utah tho ilia total ut tt it consumed hero bore would rot rat su supply ply the tile market independent of tofiq th rock company the tile coal ia lo divided for selling purposes into rail rall roud coal industrial indri atrial coal and domestic coni ech each clapa class selling on oil n chil tariff wn naked zt out a idail maximum rate and a railroad rall foad commis commission siou I 1 he lie ild did not no faor either on tho the that it if the late were napped d on ou klo rio geande coal it would doivo the rock springs product out of efthia this mar ket and mud butali could not got along with only the one source of supply 0 0 harris secretary of the manufacturers aud merchants association and william S mccarthy manager for the salt lake hardware company te testified stilled during tho the bearing hearing of harris testimony attorney allison took a fall out of the witness as to his opinions regarding thai creation of a railroad road commission he tied harris up tip with three unanswerable se sw erable rable questions harris was called to testify us its to hie his trip to the coal mines last in tho the interest of tho the associate on cross examination by At attorney tornay AM eon son ho bo was asked whether ho he did not anuw that tho diw kielp president of the diflo 16 orande had spent two weeks investigating vesti gating the coal situation p pe ton on ally and trying to devise nomo plan playa of relief he ile wis further asked chethel ho lie did lid no nab know hat that general mansier had issued bordere that coal recipe rca ae arst ret attention bardo harri said he did not know this on direct examination clarris corn cont i pl knai that he tie saw we were re woken down ond and laide cranic equipment what would roula a railroad commission do to compel a i railroad company evin parly to put pitt on better equipment asked tho the attorney at it auld order that it should be done said the witness but it oot not compel a railroad company to buy a nev ne v cosine or repair ao an old one 61 6 1 I 1 think there if Is a penalty provided in tto tle bill supplee ee a rall rodd company absolutely I 1 tely rf r refused f used to todo do anything aed to run lu t engine or transport goods goodat it would lose tte its franchise but aut thai that would be through tho the dus of tho pres present eDt law ard and bae nothing to do with the tho the commission would bring it to the attention of the atop proper r officials do ou mean to say that two alii commission mis could terminate tho the franchise adno no 11 V the declared dec lored that tho the bill was drawn gp o 0 by the boain of directors of the ind and mer chalal association and the of tho the latter ho he did not weah wah to mien fon tion he that tho the N working out of tho the law had beyn been the only experience ho lie had ladwich Lad with tho the workings of a commission he further admitted that ho he had been in utah for three pars ears nod and during that time then them iad been en three reductions in frela trel plit al rates rales harris wat was charged with making an incorrect statement in a recent let ter lii ill which he lie declared glared de that lump coal coula bo too purchase purchased d by at 5 25 at t ton attorney wll wil liams representing the ayite declared that all coal delia erea on or sidetracks was delivered at 3 76 a ton the tile same arico as its tho the dealers pay that he did not know such waa was tho the case ense ho he said matz rew days atter writing the letter he rec received elved word from a coal com puny parly that it it a contract wa wait made with 9 on Vs 7 THEY HAVE E S SHOWN awl w 0 N LITTLE OR NO FAITH f from page HT a it t for at t least two ears tf 0 t coal a day the price bould would bo bd 0 75 it ton when asad as at to tho of a maximum rate oa on the utah coal situation william S mccarthy manage of the salt lake hardware cor cota apony pany declared thai that the owners of W oming and utah mines were viry i near together a iud nd all railroad L peth petition lor lind imam ceased so far is rates 7 are concerned and that tha thet only way td to get got better coal condition would bo to get more independent braes for the state would una ont if I 1 tt reduced the rate froin from Co coalville to a it reasonable tho company boull strike baak end punish the people until they could g enough coal to in eight awnet owned independently nily to make the toe sam that 64 lb would not enforce such punishment the witness aa told ho how uth utah jobbers ore ate injured in by the abbl it rate which would allow a i to land hie his good tie Is manti for instance tinder the tb price which the salt bait laar labib jobbe could ob tain ihli by reason of v special rate on through when delivered delt ered ibay ay from a common points point he AWS 09 will to PlIt line his trip to the coal minei ot buntyon an exploring lie to find out the baase for the coal shortage lie ile told of riding to the the wat rear of a pullman and anti co counting tinting the alq barq there svere none between salt i und and binany on orl sid inga lugs be blood oud that point polut under croaa elamin were to by attorney allison uncil it waa was shown that within three hour salt malt f lak lift h had et A slit sixty years care 0 coa coat I 1 a nd se ve n ty fl alve e ca card rd 0 of f co coke ke tn iii to ho ile admitted thuc the mines were found to be bc runn itil to adil capacity for jor eight hour abam hot wit we war not dot lg ig overtime jor double riu was asted to n mat batez i a ata atah tuat vint were discriminating and anti men bione U the coal rate aa as compared to a rate in n colorado of fifty cents crit per tor for a haul from front chinon city to denver a distance of inua nit aim compared pared i with for the castle gate haul to ault lake for which 7 discharged Is charged he also mentioned a rate ou on to oreen luver river from froin salt bait ftp lah 0 o of ft t it cents per barrel mom a ro froal from denver to own rivet he ke charal that trip in ians gehant Me hant avd d been tic ia in na a altott o q agi set act twit tP akers 8 ever everal since nce its ta inception such discriminations hail been brought bro ight to its at trotton ore he lie stifled that coal bold at taka M per ton to factories but muc much other hother testimony had halt the rate to be 3 7 in u car loads dello emd ul to tho the spur track of tho the purchaser pr arc are utah r iti a ackt by hy li re reace nee yec yee limy are otake take our instance oc of coni you nry talking about it raises I 1 itt IT 9 al alue ue from to io 5 25 in getting from tho the mine to the con ou aumer trier ju juttee 4 one hundred miles away that 14 altogether too much A rate of a cent 6 i mile on coal eoal would be input it you should this rate tho governor 1 would hae to be em empowered powered ti tty pro ent tho of boat ID in utah outside of the state the state demand Is a fial fled would the for the 1 law w As I 1 a acht apal of the coal ruined in utne Ut nIkA 41 shipped out or matie into coke ji 41 on thia this p had testified that 75 per pere faw Bt of 0 the coal coat went into oke coke hud the 25 per por cent went 15 per cent ta to the fall roads and 10 perce per cem nUo to iho ek ers s of domestic coal As it a rate the bitnes haftl ho fie would favor itou it ou od coal but not on general coin enod atles as tt yo uld tend to ta create anthe on the I 1 aiton art of the lode pendent operator waw wh at ts 19 afraid up his fits mine and ald ailt it hard capitals papU als sup 1 I 1 the main bourden of conclusion conclusions however as that tagre possible relief eo so long as the rp present parte partle 5 controlled font rolled the coal coat market antl ano the cople for enacting hw lawo ho looked for re her only ehla enough co coll coa A ie Is in eight in to uso us u praest COM PAUleA 1 nd force them not shut out nt thie mar ket kot he a state bounty coal ninel mined in new and urged that toe lolu tiou to the trouble nua be foun in this streu bilm following his hi testimony he fin burned over to attorney attorneys parley JL williams of the short line lne and A al ll 11 cheo of f the bio mo orande grande for a severe croas cross sueh as till wt t tic nease ases have havo 4 leo en t to iati by lh tit rall rowl attorneys 18 |