Show D DISCOURSE I 1 S C Q U ra E BY ny JOHN TAYLOR T i ved IN THE old I 1 ola old tabe tabernacle i salt sall ladd lau city rug aug august aist 31 1875 isra REPORTED BT BY DAVID W ryans EVANS 1 IN relation to the rules that we wp have shave heard read over there is nothing iii in them but what as latter day oay Saint saints swe we have always professed to bell beil believe eveln in some of us havo bavo bee been i n around teach teaching ing lug these principles agolig the people and anil I 1 have sometime spoken of them ab a baby rules that is as rules which I 1 people like the latter day saints who are in possession of correct principles ought always to be gov ernea by latter oay day saints S lints who have been faithful from the commencement mente mence men cement m ent of their career in the church have been governed by these very p principles that we are sow saw talking about we profess to yvo be governed by the laws of godi godl god and to be associated with the church and kingdom of god upon the erth earth we profess to be related mure more or less to other parties who have held the same sauie priesthood powers light ald aud in telli 9 genee gence euce that we poss posses essl sj those who understand themselves profess profesa to be pe associated more or less leas with the church of the first bord born with jesus whom paul calls the media meala toi tot of the new now covenant venant aud nud with god the tho father 0 alf alj and our religion and the th a revelations that have been ilvento gl vento to us are aro for the express purpose g us to a union among ourselves with these who have gone before aj and aud with jesus lud aud lod iod hod the fat eat father eather h e r who are all ok 01 them interested aa as we ought to bea be in seeking peeking to carry out the designs and purposes of the almighty upon the earth earths earthy Those parties who have lived before lived not for them delves but for god when jesus was waa upon upun the earth he said cli 1 came 1 not to do my will but the will of the frather who sent bent me and every man who is 13 associated with the church and kingdom of god expects and ana understands adi if ho he understands things correctly that be is parl part of the grea greal great t hOuse household hola of 01 faith belonging to a eeles celes celestial nal dal kingdom that he h Q anticipates inheriting and that he ought to bo be governed by celestial laws jaws by which other othey es who have lived before have been governed go verned those men ef of whom h om P paul it speaks all atelio of whom in die ile dle died in ln zith faith falth and in hope of a bet ter ler inheritance did certain things by which they proved to the world that they desired a city whose builder and maker was god wherefore paul tells us that god was not ashamed to beeall be called ed their god fo for r he had prepared a city for taji them em we e read orthe of uhe the lon zon ion that was built wilt up by enoch and that this zion ud md the people that were united j who were subject to the 6 ainee laws which god ja Is seeking to introduce among UsO use us were jere aught ought up into nto the heavens V we 6 lave been expecting ail all alo RIO along n to balad up a similar moll upon these th me mountains and we haye have talked a peat deal about going back to lekson ackson county we can not build up vp a zion unless we are in posses eoa noa of the spirit of zion and of j the light and intelligence that flow hm from god an dunder the direction or 3 the living orale oraie sr 0 of god to leadus le aar us in the thel paths of or ilfe ilie life ife we do dd not kriba them without and we need bil all these helps to leadus lead us along niong that by and by we nay may come to such a unity in ih our temporal and ia in our spiritual af nna raa and aad odin in everything chat hat per WU to td bur inter eat and happiness ja th this as world arid and in the world to cone come that we may be pie prepared pared to entera zion here hero upon the earth lepto build tiani temples ples pies of the lord lora ato id 6 adm administer iniste r in hem them and so operate ferate and operate cooperate co wath with the jhb oda in the eternal world sand saud saud with the patriarchs prophets apostles and men of f god who were fu inspired by the spirit of revelation in generations erat ions lons that are aye pas ed and gone ve e want walt tobe oree orie with them one kith with ith goddad god and one diio with each other 1 lot for jesus jestis said except you are one you are not mine then the question arises arlees 3 if we are not Je jesusa whose are we it is evident in relation to the position that wo we have been beeh in that all kinds of confusion folly vanity evil pride haughtiness covetousness drunkenness and every kind of sin have existed among us as a people I 1 am ant not mot surprised that tho the president should feel inclined toa tol tik tir shake shako off many of these things 0 why because if 11 they are permitted irr the church and kingdom of god wid nud the servant of god and his coadjutors do not lift up their voices against them god would hold them resi resl pr isible does president young want to bear dear the sins of the them people no do the twelve and want to bear the sins sin of the he people no it is for the president to point out the way of life andhor and for all of us to walk in it this is 14 the order ef or god and every mari man au and aud d tomazi woman should fulfill fulfil the various duties that devolve upon them the thi m now novo then theo in regard to our our temporal affairs these are ate the tho things which seem to perplex us more oi 01 less N we ve have been brou brought gj ll 11 up in babylon inherited id ideas aas and systems of bu business si we have introduced too among us all ail kinds winds of chicanery ry 4 deception lee lec eption and fraud it is time rat that at these things A stopped and that matters assumed another hape it is time that we com commenced men meu to place ourselves under the thi guidance and direction of the almighty you can not talk in many places about teni teul temporal matters but everybody is on OD the alert at once and the idea is do you want my property no do dijou you want my possessions no no there is no uch such feeling but we do want men and women to give god their hearts we do want people while they profess to fear god not to be canting hypocrites and to depart from every principle of right we vo rem remember ember the time lime very well or or most of ug us when we first entered into this church if a man was wa found lying he boulde would be brought before church and de dealt jt wll wil with th if a man was I 1 found und stealing he would be brough brought it up before the I 1 church and dealt with if fleman a man mau defrauded his neighbor and it could be proved he be was brought 14 up and dealt with and so if lf a man got gut i drunk and for alt all the these s e delinquent cies cles if parties did pot repent of them they were vere immediately cut off from the church as unworthy orthy of fellowship and now after so fao many years travail are we to con dinue and fellowship all these evils no no we can not do it and gad will not do it and if we carry them along with us us we ve swall shall i not enter into the celestial kingdon kingdom j of god now thi then theu e u with regard to thi union of property ha is it why it is la something fedraw to draw the people nearer together to prepare them for future fu tu re developments is the ordel well wei we here have bave thought proper at the suggestion sug pug of president young to act as stewards over our own property in some pla pia places ces aher cheref el there is js not nov so much property as here herp it might be better to pursue another course aoun pj but as to that no matter if qun pur hearts are together and we do what we in all sincerity before god what we are after is to give our hearts artajo to god torener to renew our covenant sand then be one in our t temporal affairs and thin is 19 to be under the diree tion ifon of the living priesthood and not under any particular dead letter here is a certain form that everybody ought to submit to every man and every woman in the church of jesus christ of latter tatter day saints ought to be governed b by these rules and we knew it in iu our out hearts I J mea mean n when they thoy refer particularly t to 0 our morals morais when we come conio to td other points that Is a matter of judgment and principle that we want to be governed by as ax thu the law jan of god we have an ah organization here in the church of jesus christ of latter day Saiji saints ts and andi it is one of the most t perfect that ever existed on the earth and how bow is it organized why we have the presidency with president young at the head as the mouthpiece of god to this people that is the way that we wet latter jeatter day saints profess to believe in him L whether we do sq s or not liot abd add if we di d not pot believe it then we are act ing the hypocrite then come the twelve then the high priests bishops bla Bia hops hopa seventies high councils bishops Couii councils eils ells ea elders eiders iders priests teachers and deacons all organized by the almighty now then do I 1 b believe belleve e iley e that thai the loid almighty directs president young I 1 do with all alt my hert heart do you believe it that is the question do you believe thai thac he aud and his first counsel have the right to dictate and manage all affairs pertaining to the temp temporal drai dral and spiritual interests of the church and kingdom of god upon the earth I 1 believe it do you these are questions that we want to put to ourselves fairly and and honestly without any aby equivocation or reservation for this is really mally a part of the order of god now then come the twelve and all the other authorities we believe that they are ordained of god that they are part of his economy and government all these various quorums as they exist on the earth and that by and by whence elive Silve get t through in jh this world worl we shall all assume our proper poi post llon lion and brid proper priesthood with joseph joseh smith at the tho head of ot t this 1 dispensation and land that we shail shall b be associated there with that phiet ho hood Q d that we have been cam with were here now nor then we do not cantio ber playing fast and loose part god part the world orld part parac the devil p part pard jilt the lords way and part our way and every man following the devices and desires of his own heart we have come under the government of god aik alk and alj gge expect J 4 our strict full implicit and obedience in all particulars tic ulars r give bethy me thy heart heaxt we havo have covenanted long iong ion lon a ago tp 10 lo airis ahls and this is simply a r renewal of this eoye coye covenant nant and of manx many covenants that we have jave entered into in relation to these eliese mat matters lk I 1 it a saeni ace fa ce are we doubtful and aud fearful earful about this that and the othel wha whap have we to sacrifice what hold hoid ha have v e 46 we u pon upon i thi earth what hold leave have we any property on this earth it may be said to us as it was to t 0 a man who sald faid 1 l have baie much goods laid up ro ot many years year sou take fake thine ease wa ear drink and ani be he orryl merry it may y b siad to u us i lis lie asit I 1 t was said to b him bim I 1 in thou elou flou fool this night thy soul i is rewired required of df thee and then whose will these bv what havo have we that thit wd did not get from god I 1 have heard beard president youlay say that th there thera eib oil I 1 Is s p not ot one solitary thing that dehus wine wife dollar horse carriage or of any kind thal that he did hot not receive from bod G od bave gave any of I 1 us got apy thing that we did not from him not a penny can we kee keep p au anything athi ing lug any longer than thin a minato permit 11 us NU not one moment longer tn his hig hands are the issues of ilfe life a aad 20 death aud and thi fhi the only hope we hae hote is A to be one with god with the priesthood upon the earth that is ia connected with the priesthood in the heavens that wa we may unite in a ph phalanx alana I 1 with themi witti uoti wih th the ae patriarchs aad sad prophet wilh W all al good men tha t have ever lived thane halwe may form a cemented united body with them in the ai apu of the purposes of Gop gou ifor for the of salvation to iho tho th world worldon in which we live for mhd nyde redemption of ube ibe living and the dead dedd for fbi the spreading forth of truth the establishing of correct principles the building up ortho of the kingdom of god the building of te liples and then when we get through here that we veo ma anay y unite finite wl with ith lih them ia in the celestial kingdom of our gur father these are some of the ide ideas as that wei bel bei believe leye iii in in relation to these tilee matters and the thin thing g that is now proposed ig Js very simple simpie an 1 straightforward rho the president has baid bald qa said ld that there are many men in this city vity and find elsewhere who want to ta knoby whom they shall piam dver over oven the their ir affairs they can nol noti tel tei tell well what then why those who cannot do that jot let them unite together in a united order similar to that which js is seq spoken i ken of afi as the book of doctrine a and cov covi i ananta expresses it li though it varies a little from thal that form here hero and lay it at the apostles feet and let the bishop give them their inheritances heri herl here another thing ia contemplated here we wb are stewards over our own property and you have heard read that the avails avalli of that sy system steni after supplying the families aro are to be under the direction af the board of directors to say what shall ball be done with them then theu again again if there Is extravagance in fiL milles families in iii dress drees eating on in giong of any b kind rind no 0 matter matten what it irmay iglay be we want tha that thap checked we do not wani mani want the thel Sain tto he extravagant we do ot want to 10 lo do anything that god does not want us to da and hogood no good salat halat man or woman wants to do what god du daes 66 not twant want all sueh such fel feel like ilke one of df old oid oh god bearch search me roe and ti I 1 me me and prove me and if it there is anyway any way of wickedness in rao rae mos j exhibit it to me let me see it that I 1 may bid it adieu and let me be a good saint let me live in the enjoyment of orthy thy favor and let the light of br the holy gost ghost and of revelation rest upon me let me be in favor falor with mith god and my brethren and nii alf good men and then when r f get through veceiva the reward toward of dr the just may mav god heinis heanis to appreciate these privileges imd not think that wo we are snaking sa crince for foe wo we are merely mutely seek seeking the guidance of the almighty to direct us izidur in our tem paral affairs that we may inherit tb thrones ones principalities powers and dominions in ju the je eternal worlds which we rie vershall never neven shall shail inherit unless we are one oner |