| Show DISCOURSE bi y president belgram YO ang UNG dewied at the 42 ond amt I 1 I 1 I 1 inference salo hoalt lake ct ly i october Oc teber 1872 1 J 11 IK I 1 tl tt W 11 J W lavid zayid W EVANS we should examine a city an n a w take of elon eloa conducted after the oi of enochd we would like to momen moments tp upon the facca facts as they would sexist as t ifa if a people were leathered together j werd weve they thoy many lanyor man ar few who would woula follow sout tont idoft the zhe i given them in hi the bible and in the other revelations that ye ve have lave they would bave have tob to beery ewery every obedient and probably many would feel 0 o say 1 I 1 wish d manage myown affairs 1 ish wish to dictate myself to td gorn gora au aud and control my llly labor T acan ican can not sot submit to have anybody oinie elrie dictate na this is servitude and bad is nothing moren moreo orless less loss than I 1 suppose chere there are esome bome who would feel thus wuen when liwok I 1 look 1002 at the latter day Sain tsI think how independent the shefake Ih fake eyare they have havo been beon ver ven very irl lri dependent there is no question of it ft when they have bave beard heard the gospel thou though gb perhaps haps in iho pho fh flood of persecution and the finger of scorn ed towards them they have hsie eaid eald the gospel is true and if my gny friends will wilt not believe it it makes no difference to me I 1 am independent enough to blu bin embrace brace the truth and to gather out orom from tho the midst of i Babylon and to make my nay home nome with the s 1 saints salath there are wre plenty of such people kere here in this housemen houseman hou semen and eind women old and young there ard are young people here who have left their parents arent arents 4 and everything they had on an the face of the earth for the sake of the gospel middle aged men h have ave left their wives and their thein children saying 1 I am going to live according to the plan fan faa that has been laid down in im the scriptures for the salvation of the human family this certainly exhibits as much independence as mortal beings can manifest and yet we have bald baid we will yield strict obe dianee to these requirements preparatory to enjoying the glory that the lord has for the saints 1 I win ili anikis ahl ati ask auk kIs Is there liberty in this obedience besand yes and the only plan on 0 the face of the earth for the people to gain real liberty is to yield beld obedience to thee these simple principles not but that we should find a great many who do not exactly understand onder der stand how bow to yield obedience strictly to the requirements of heaven for their own salvation and exaltation but no per son can be exalted in the of heaven without first submitting himself to the 1 rules regulations laws and ordinances of that kingdom and being perfectly subject to them in id every res nes respect fact pact Is this the tact lael it is eyen exen so consequently no person is ii nit fit t to be a ruler until ne he can be ruled no one is fit to be the lord of all until he has submitted himself to be servant of all kil does this give the people liberty it is the only thing in the heavens or on the earth that can do so where is the liberty in subjecting ourselves ours alves aives strictly to the requirements quire ments ot of heaven and becoming one in all our operations to build ti up the kingdom of god upon the earth by strict obe diance to these requirements we prove dur ourselves selves faithful to our god and when we have passed through all the ordeals necessary and have proved perfectly sub missive to all the rules and regnia tlona tiona which give life eternal he then seta sets us free and crowns us ns with glory immortality and eternal lives and there la Is no other i path that we can walk in no other system no BO other laws lawa or ordinances by which ch we can gain gaia exaltation oui orl only v by submitting our nur seles perfectly to ta th the 6 oi of adaven X r N row bow ow suppose we had a 4 talo society or 1 on the plan I 1 I 1 mentioned at the of my remarks after the order of enoch would we build our houses all alike no how should we live I 1 will tell you how 1 I would arrange for a little family say about a thousand persons I 1 would build houses expressly for their convenience la in cooking washing and every department of their domestic arrangements instead of oft having every woman getting up in the morning ria orning and fussing around a or overine over the fire cooks ing a little food for two or three or half a dozen perso persons rii or a dozen as the case may be she would have nothing to do but to go to her work let me have my arrangement here a hall in which I 1 can seat five hundred persons to eat pat and 1 1 have my cooking apparatus ranges ana and ovens all prepared re pared and suppose wo we had a cauli hali hail a hundred feet longwith long iong with our cooking room attached to this hall and there is a person at the further end of the table and he should telegraph that he wanted a warm beef beof beefsteak steak and this thia is conveyed to him by a little railway perhaps under the tableland tab leand he or she may take lake her beefsteak what do you want to take tako with it A cup of tea a cup of coffee a cup of milk piece pf af toast or something or other no matter what they call for it is conveyed to them 1 and they take it and we can seat fave five hundred at once and serve them all in a very dew dow minutes and when they havo hava all ali eaten the dishes are piled together slipped un under der dec the table and run baek bauk to the ones 5 who wash them we could have a few feyk ohla ohia amen to do that if wo we did not want to do it ourselves under such a system the women could go to work making their bonnets hats hata and clothing or rin in the fac I 1 have not time to map it out before you as aa I 1 wish to but here is our dining room and adjoining this la is our prayer room where we would assemble perhaps five hundred persons at one time and have our prayers in ia the evening ana and and in the morning when we had bad had our ur prayers and our breakfast then each and everyone every overy one to his business but the inquiry is in a moment how are you going to get them together toge tege build your houses just the bize size you want them whether a hundred feet fifty feet or five and haye them thern so 60 ir r ranged that you can walk directly from work to dinner would you build the he houses house sall sali ati ail alike oh no if there is any one person who has better taste in tasteful than thap others and ana can get up more tasteful houses make your plan pian sand and we will put them up and havil havethe the greatest variety we can imagine what wili wiil wili wiil we do through the day each one go to his bis work here are the herdsmen here are those who look after the here are those who make the butter aud and the cheese all at their work by themselves some for the kanyon perhaps or for the plough or harvest no difference what each and every class is or and all labor and perform their part will we have the cows in the city no will we have the pigpens pig pens in the city no ho will we vm have any of our outhouses out houses in the cily f xo 10 we will have our railways to convey the food to the pig pens and somebody to 10 take care oare of them somebody to gat gathen gatherum herup up the scraps at the table and take them away somebody to take the feed and feed the cow corsand sand take care of them out of the city allow any nuisance in the city 2 no sto ST sao o not any siny but everything kept as clean and as aa nice as aa it is in this acle gravel our streets pave our walks water them keep them clean lind and nicely swept and everything neat nice vice and sweet oun our oar houses built high sleep up stairs have large lodging rooms keep everybody in fresh air pure aud and healthy work through the day and when it 4 comes evening instead of going to it theatre walking the streets riding or reading novels these falsehoods got up expressly to excite the minds of youth repair to our roo noo room in and have our historians and our different teachers to teach classes of old and young to read the scriptures to thapa to teach them history arithmetic reading writing and painting and have the ghe best abst teachers that can be got to teach our day schools half the mhd labor necessary to make a people moderately comfor comfortable tabia tabla n naw w would make them independently rich under such a system now we toll toil and work and labor and some ol of us pre bre so anxious that we ve are sure to start after a load or of wood on saturday so as to occupy sunday in getting home hla his hia would be stopped slopped in our community and when sunday morning came every child would be required to go to the school room and parents reu ren ta to go to meeting or sunday school and not get into their wagons or carriages or on the rall nali railroads roAds or lounge around reading novels they would be required to go to meeting to read the scriptures to pray and cultivate their minds the youth would have a good education 9 they would receive all the learning that could be given to mortal beings and after they had studied the best books that could be got hold bold of they would still have the tha advantage of cherest th the erest rest of the world for they would be taught ia and have a knowledge of the things of pod god bring children ren ron iri in this way and they would be trained to love the truth teach them honesty virtue and prudence and we should not see the waste around that lor now roq is witnessed the latter day saints waste enough elonga to make a poor people comfortable shall I 1 mention one or two instances I 1 wilh Willu mention this ane ne thing anyway any way with regard to our dour paper mill can you jou you geathe get the latter day saints to save their rags no lid they wilt will make mike theland the them mand and throw them out of doors Is there a family in this community but what are too well off in their own estimation to take care of paper ra rags I 1 think a good many of them would rather steal their beef and what they want than stoop to pick up paper rags to make paper to id print our paper on not all ali would do this but a fow few and the majority are so well off that they have not that prudence which belongs to saints and I 1 feel sometimes a little irritated rita ted and inclined to scold about it when I 1 see women who were brought a up without a shoe shoo to their foot or a second frock to their back perhaps an and d who lived until they were young women in this style stale without ever stop stev stopping stepping bing ping onto on toan arf inch orear of carpet in their lives ilves livesy anu ana they know no more how bow to to treat A a carpet than pigs do do they know how to treat fine furniture no they do not but they will waste waste their clothing their carpets ond and nd their furniture I 1 hear them say sometimes why I 1 have had this three years or five 5 ears if my grandmother could nave have got gotan an article such as aa you wear she would have kept it for her daughters from generation to generation oration and it would have been good but now our youn young women waste waste this Is finding fault and I 1 wish I 1 could hurt your feelings enough to make you think of it when you get home homo if irl I 1 could maxe make yolla you a little mad whon you get home if you sou bee see a pretty good piece of carpet thrown out but of doors yon son will go perhaps areda aleda an hake it and lay it i up tin finking tl inking king that it may bo service abler abier 1 i somebody dy or other and if you yon cannot do a else with it give it to somebody v A ho L h s not a bed tollo tolio upon to put under them to help to make a bed if we could see such a society organized as I 1 have mentioned tou you yon would see none of this thia was waste e you would bee beb a people all attending to their business busine sei ssi having the most improved machinery for mating making cloth and doing every kind of housework farming all mechanical operate operations ons in our factories dal dai dairies ries rles orchards and vineyards and possessing every comfort and convenience ven veni tence ence of life A society like this would never have to buy bui anything they would make and raise ralso all they would eat eal drik drlek and wear and always aa ways have something to sell and bring money to help to increase their comfort and independence 66 well but one would say 1 I sha never have the privilege of riding again in a carriage in my life oh what a pa I 1 did you ever ride in one when you had your own way no you never thought of buch such a thing athing thousands and thousand thousands of latter day saints never expect to own a carriage or to ride in one would we carriages yes yea we would we would have them suitable for the community and ana give them their roper proper exercise and if I 1 were with you would be willing to rive sive others just as much as I 1 have myself and if we have sick would they want a carriage to ride in yes and they would have it too we would have nice ones to carry out the sick aged and infirm and give them exercise and give them a good place to sleep in good food to eat good company to be with them and take care of thorn thom would not this be hard yes I 1 should hope so if 1 I had the privilege and the power I 1 would not introduce a system for fo my Ut OT ethren and myself to live under unless it would try our faith I 1 do not want to live without having my faith and patience tried they are pretty well tried I 1 do not know how many there are who would endure what I 1 endure with regard to faita falta and patience and then be persevering in the midst of it all ali but I 1 would not noi form a society nor ask an individual to ta go to heaven by breaking all the bones in his body and putting him in a silver basket and then hitching hit bit ching him to a kite send end F send him up there I 1 would not do it if I 1 I 1 had the power for if his bones bonea were not broken he would jump out of the basket that is the idea f see e a great many who profess to be latter d day ay saints who would not be contented in keaven heaven unless their feelings undergo a great change and if they were there and you wanted to keep them there you would have to break their backs or they would get out ont but we want to see nothing of this in this little society if I 1 had haa charge of such a society as this to which I 1 refer I 1 would not allow novel reading yet it is in my house in the houses bouses of my counsellors coun in the houses pf af these apostles these seventies and high pries priests tsIn in the houses of the high council in city and in other cities and in the houses of the bishops and we permit it 1 yet it is ten thousand t times imes worse than it is I 1 for or men to come here and teach our children the a b c good morals and how to behave themselves ten tea thousand times worse I 1 you let your children read novels until they run away until they get so that they thet go do not care they are reckless stid and their mothers are reckless and some of their fathers are reckless and if you do hot break their backs and tie them up chev they will go to hell that is rough is it ic not T well it iss is isa a comparison you have got to check them some way or ot heror they will go to destruction they are perfectly crazy their actions say 1 I want babylon stuck onto on to me I 1 want to revel in babylon baby ion lon I 1 want everything I 1 can think of or desire it if I 1 had the power to do so I 1 would not take people pie to heaven god will not take them themi there bat that I 1 am am siire sure of he will wili try iry the falt fait hand haud aud and pati patience enca onca of this people I 1 would not like to gel gei into inid a society whar e there were no trials but I 1 would 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