Show by president toung young deil deti delivered vered in the old tabernacle great soli salt 1 zale lake I 1 a ax cit city Wo november vember 3rd ard 1667 1867 REPORTED BY G D WATT I 1 twili will I 1 in the commencement of my remar remarks take up a subject upon which much has hag been beeg said in the pulpit and in n the cheaney conier confer it is regarding tho spirit of mhd lord manifesting his will to his children there is if a person lives accordi according ilg tig to the revelations given to gods people he may havethe haye have etho th spirit of the lord to signify to him his will hind bind fi imd find nd to guide ailsto and to direct himin the discharge of hia duties in 14 ads as well weli eli eil ell as in his spiritual I 1 am however that ln ki I 1 I 1 ggs respect we wa ilce live farbe far beneath heath our bur e Ift hlis bila tru tri itis necessary anat it we e become edom ware fervent in iii tilts the of od DA jih living our religion andere n ia tru truthful and aud honest with xin ain one e ail all another i er that ti we be bp pot not slack slach in the performance of any duty A right fight goodwill good will wili for god and truth uruth if f ulis this people called latte latter day aay saints ya e ii a t aa tein ther then privileges yi 0 the th holy gospel pr af pf t fhe the son rn 0 of f god are aber hey J jusli VJ ti I 1 lied liea ed hi n every respect before him nim they hey f ara ata ar not noi i qi jf f we wye dp not jive live in the lively arcise of falth faith faith rAlth in the lord je jesus sus possessing ills his spirit always how can iv we i know when he speaks to us through his servants r kanti bom hom he has bils placed to lead us it was as observed here this by one of the brethren that X geyer at attempted tempted tt lo 10 perform a duty required re 6 u lreh of him unless the spirit manifested f ste d to him bedo bero beforehand that he be would be Justified in doing it now let lel me dik hask how many of you know by the odthe 01 the spirit 9 of f teye reye revelation lation thap that aa t the he lord alas ilas has hab bas whispered to his servants the necessity lecessi lay gay of this people the avord vo rd of wisdom some submit jp 0 A and ano gay spy hay eay that bat it is right laC rause dause their president says bo sor sov but liova mally received of the dhe spirit to themselves that this ig the will of god again acain how aw many know by the spirit Of revelation latigu that they should contribute substance the lord has given to them to gather homet home the be poor latter Us from europe many may have bave tee ree received elved dived a from the holy spirit that this is 19 their duty but there may way be one half of the coin coio who ho have not received such a manifestation now is it the duty of those who nave have not lived BO so ah ala to spirit of revelation as others doto do to perform this labor of love and charity the same ii as those who have received the spirit t j of revel revelation to witness to tb them em that it bib bis sis right we think that it is I 1 can call to mind revelations bilich the lord delivered to his servant joseph jospph that when they were written and given give to the people there would not be one in fifty of the members of the ch r c 0 o cou could ad say tha th liah aLthey t y V kadev agy theE thed ia 1 eions of the llord suu INU they evere of the lord but they would have to to pray and aud exercise faith to be able to receive them and in some instances some apostatized apostatize din in consequence of revelations that that had been given this was the caso case ichen en iho vision was ii given trou brou through ov joseph smith and nud and aud sidney bigdon 11 d ia pat rat at that time therewa there was snot not as ma many ny in the whole church as there is in this h s congregation yei yes Ys mahy many many fors forsook ook t tiie tile g e faith when the lord revealed the fact to joseph smith and sidney rigdon as he lie did to ancient apostles that all would receive a salvation except those who had bad sinned A a sin unto vinto death of which the costle john said I 1 1 I do not say shall pray for it I 1 prayed sprayed and reflected about it and sd so did others I 1 became satisfied that when a revelation came to joseph for the people to perform any labor labon or dut duty y ot it was their privilege iego lego to go to with their might and do doit dolt it collectively And individually not pot jil zhi waiting iii ting for the manifestations of the spirit to me but believing talat the prophet knew more than I 1 knew that the lord spoke through him and that he could do a as he pleased about speaking to me this is a close point but I 1 will tell is right what is the duty bf he the latter day saints unless they can by lay nud deniable undeniable nn en able abie proof show tha that t the word of the lord has not come through the president they have no right to hesitate one moment in performing iho ibe duties required of them this is the way I 1 understand revelation it is the privilege of the latter day saints to know and understand the mind and will of god concerning them yea it is even the the wicked world to know this the spirit of the fhe lord bears witness to all people according to the faith honesty and humility which dwell in the theo individual who hears bears and in those administer wHo vIlo the word in a great measure it depends upon this with regard to the witness of god to them it is hard however for people to understand these things the intelligence we possess is from our father and our god every attribute that is in his character is in dis ais his children in embryo it is their duty to imp develop those attributes and it is consequently necessary ry to pay strict attention to every requirement of heaven that we may betterin bette better run understand der stand the mind and will of god concerning us and our duty jowe will live so 90 as 81 to enjoy the spirit of revelation we may know concerning ourselves and those we preside over I 1 if the people are ready and prepared to receive the word ward of the lord continually it can be bp given to them thew an elder may indy declare the bruth truth philosophically and anti th elight of christ Chilst ma max may y kindle up the candle of th the eLord elond lord lond within those who hear phear hin him anid arid they sae see under stabio and are convicted of its truth although ther the elder who ho preaches it to them gay may himself be void of the spirit of revelation again a man may pr preach 0 o a people popie whose ears aro ara closed and their hearts liard ilard hardened ened against conviction they will not lie lle believe belleve lieve the gospel gospe lyet yeti yett the man who testifies to them may ay be full of the power of god for example we will sa say hore tore is a mah man an the right or the left who declares that be cannot perform this or that duty unless he receives a to himself direct from the lord that he requires the duty at his hands upon what principle has he be the right to question any requirement made by bv the constituted authority of god on the ahe earth Is lie he entitled to any such right he is not dot he is not entitled to the right of bringing up any argument in his own mind as to the right or wrong of it or to in any way remonstrate against any require requirement the lord has jas las made of him through his Fer servants he is under obligation to obey whether the spirit of th eLord gives him a manifestation or nut not when the authorities call for BO so many loads of rock tobe iobe hauled for the temple tempie should every man wa by direct revelation to himself whether be should grawrock drA draw yock rock or riot or should all acknowledge the call as the word of the tho lord to us and promptly nud and willingly obey when we asked the brethren to build this illis new tabernacle did they wait to get a revelation to themselves before they commenced the work no but while they were engaged in that work when they knelt down to pray benore before the lord his spirit was with them and abd it justified the tho theace het heb and so will it be with every duty dufy that tha is required of this people if they perform the banne in faith before god goil our beloved brother did not speak ashe asbe meant H will be understood to mean simply this if a requirement is made of this people it is their privilege to have a t st m by thal thai it is of god this is what at R 1 mea aana I 1 it t is what bat hat my nay brother measy 1 ho spoke qt his this bornt morning hm r I 1 wish now to say bay ly a rew few words to wa ano bishops it is a common mon saying as with the prIes priest tso BO with the people eople 11 I 1 will change that a little and say as are our bishops so are the people behave we have I 1 i shii sali said sald d much people with regard to Jay ingup provisions to last them a few years ears 4 this ia is bardu bur duty ty now it has mn been our duty for years how many of our bishop save provisions laid up for one year two years or seven years there may be a few bishopp who have got their grain lnla lata away to last their families a year yea r but the great majority y of them have not the people do or should look to their bishops for example ample ampie B each aeh aeb bishop should be an example to bib bis ward if the bishop of a ward lays up wheat to last his hia family V ar year yeary two years yearb or seven years asahe as jahe case may be his neighbors on the right and on the ift left will be very tery apt to do the same they will very likely build good bins and try to aall fill them buti bul but I 1 need not hot talk much about this dodou do you ask aak me if I 1 have wheat laid up yes yeb I 1 have it all the time I 1 have be beet beef efa eta furnishing this tithing office in part with my own flour for the building of the new tabernacle and I 1 calculate to furnish it still I 1 have go so many hundreds of people to feed it cannot be expected that I 1 can save much yet yot I 1 ha have v enough benough laid by to last my family for years I 1 wish now to refer to what was said this afternoon regarding this peoples knowledge I 1 think of this frequently it is said by our enemies that the lat ter day saints are arean an ignorant people I 1 ask all the nations of christendom if they can produce a people considering all the circumstances who aro arc better educated in all the great branches of learning than this people as a people many of them have been brought from poverty and have been placed in comfortable for lor table tabie circumstances in these mountains where they have been taught how to get their living from the elements elemen tsi and to become partially sel sei seif self sustaining tai tat n ing how much do yon you know among the nations oan you make an axe helve belve i yes and so can we and make an axe to fit to 14 it and then we know how to use it we can make a hoe handie handle and a hoe to fit it and then we know how to hoe boo the ground with it can we make a plough yes and know how to use itse it as well as any people on the earth we can make every agricultural apple implement and can use it we can make a cambric needle and we can make the steam engine and vessel to carry it we can direct the lightning an and d make it our servant ailt after franklin showed us how and the philosophers of the day areas dependant on his discoveries as weare we are we have all the improvements that have been made in the arts and sciences and know how to use them to our gur advantage we can make boots and shoes for the sturdy plodding agriculturist in the field and for the delicate lady in the parlor and we know how bow to make the leather ieather as wei wel as others do we can read tead the ther bib leand understand jt t and our lexicographer c oan can make dictionaries wherein t hen then are we more ignorant than oth others ers we have good mechanics good i pliers good astronomers good mathematicians mati matic clans claus ians lans good architects good theologians good historians good orators good statesmen good schoolteachers school teachers and we can make a good prayer and preach a rood good sermon I 1 heard beard a very sensible ibie ible prayer the other day at camp wasatch in the prayer was these words that I 1 the militia might be ella eila enabled bled bied to keep their guns bright and their powder berdry dry 11 we know how bow to make cloth how how bow t to make it into garments and wear it we know how bow to provida for ourselves how to protect ourselves and we ask nobody to heip help us us but god our heavenly father then wherein are we so woe woefully fully I 1 ignorant no ns some bome people make us out to te be we ve to build houses and can make the furniture to furnish them we know how to plant gardens set bret out orchards and plant vineyards we know how to raise alf kinds winds of vegetables 1 fruit and grain and every thing tiling ela eia elre eire e that will flourish in this latitude wherein are we ignorant we may not be able to get out a great burst of words which mean nothing as many wany of the preachers and reverend divines abroad cau they speculate a great deal about walking the golden goiden olden streets of the new jerusalem and about going into the presence of god to sing psalms forevermore but when they are asked seriously where they are going when they leave this earth they are unable to tell you if you ask them what they are going to do in the next exist ance when the labors of this world are ended I 1 they aro are still in the dark you may ask them ro god odIL lives and they i i I 1 do not h know now they say a in heen acen e but ut f where is heaven tho the thoy they don do no krow know I 1 if you tham what hat he 0 look looks ii I 1 still they do not know some borne 11 liar liay t gone so far as to say that he d daeng J beyond zoild the bounds of time and span space I 1 an and is seated on a topless throne being himself without body parts ami passions numerous are the wad specula lula iula eions of religionists regarding Go gouans apt and his habitation wo we can instruct he world on these matters wherein aree ignorant wo we know and read history we understand the gei geography graphy of the world the manners customs and laws of nations our astronomers describe to esthe us the geography of the heavens mea rnea sure the dY distances stances between the earth and the sun moon and planets we ve have learning to speculate on an all ail these works dokks of god and revelation unfolding reliable knowledge on many of the wonders of the heavens now wherein alewe are we more ignorant than thin otar other othen p lfeo bo pie ale Is it because we believe the nible bible which declares that man is ni made mado adein in the likeness and image that ho has hab cars to td hear our prayers eyes to see his handiwork a stretched out arm to defend his 1118 ado people pie ale and to make maue bare to punish the stcl wicked ad nations of theearta the earth wherein are we ignorant wounder we understand the laws of domestic and civil government we know how to conduct ourselves like men of benses senses like ilke gentlemen and und christians wo we understand natural philosophy and medicine and are satisfied with the emptiness of the vain philosophy of the world if believing and knowing what wo we do constitute ignorance then let asbe ua be ignorant still ana and continue in the way wy which will lead Us to the perfection of knowledge which the ignorance now let me say to td yov y oki oti it is our im in operative pera tive duty to use a portion of our substance rub Bub stance to send for our poor brethren and sisters who are still back in the old countries may the lord bless you amen i |