Show DISCOURSE nr by Pros prudent president ident HEBER lieber C al kimball airrall birr ALL tabernacle tabernacles sunday sundays pm july 19 1 1560 1550 REPORTED BY J T V IONO LONG I 1 have been very much interested with the tha discourse we heard this forenoon it is W what bilt bitt 11 I 1 call practical religion and you will understand my fe elings feelings when I 1 tell you that I 1 consider there is no religion of any kind thatis that is of any use e except that which ii is practical I 1 read in the book of mormon bible and in in the revelations that are given and written for our instruction and benefit and for the benefit of the people who lived in past ages that the lord says is in speaking in of those that I 1 adye naye nave favor with wath him the ibrek the tha humble and thoe thole that kaye baye a eltrue c spirit awat at matr laau fest feat f est their thein chelist fatih falih ill by their works and aoa pail pall upon him continually irwill adin administer ibister to them thet and imp art unto them my will fabe lord our god lives and it is because be he lives that we live for if the lord had been dead we ive should have been dead lie he certainly does exist and dwell in la the heavens and I 1 am aware of it during daring my experience in the church I 1 have been placed in many situations and thousands of items have been presented to my mind that would be of great service to the people I 1 have called upon the lord and asked him for a great many things and he has heard beard and answered me and I 1 have endeavored to take si course that would give me favor with him with his son and with the holy ghost that I 1 might have things brought to my remembrance that I 1 might have a knowledge of things present and things to come T this is is 13 our privilege brethren and it I 1 is the privilege of all the men that live upon the earth we are saints and we wes should bould all live hie in that manner that would insure us all the blessings that are promised to the faithful every man that has received the priesthood whether an apostle prophet high elder bishop priest or teacher all should live as one man be of one heart and one mind in regard to hose things we have heard with re regard alsto to living and practising practicing our religion that we may be able to build up zion and su the che new jew lew jerusalem unless ve we are very dil dilcia pla PiA t we shall shail biu bim 11 be very far behind the times when the new jerusalem comes down from leaven beaven adorned as a bride for her husband how now ow I 1 believe that enoch went away from h here hore re on a piece of earth but I 1 do not believe that he remained idle all the timet time they have ben improving and cultivating the earth they have been multiplying and increasing er creasing easing tue inhabitants where they live so i 1 is with the lost logt tribes or of israel they are not asleep god speaks to them through their prophets au an I 1 I 1 they are learning to be obedient ob edien edlen and LO to be subject to the law of god II 11 is the pi privilege of t the ie 1 iders elders of israel to rise by the power of god by living 0 the religion of jesus christ brethren go to work and adorn the earth adorn you h habitations aid ald a id improve in eiery every cipry thim thing 11 that i good tood that you may be quail i d d hereafter j i a good work I 1 have wol woi k d in my day alid ai d learned two mechanical trades the potter potters and blacksmithing and worked considerable as a carp carpenier carpenter enfer enier but I 1 never saw a black blackam sm b h yet that was p perfect or one that ci ild not impi o e more and more in in aking edgr tools da an I 1 oher 0 her things in fact I 1 never saw a mechanic perfect in his bu business bubines sines lor there is is alvay al an advancement an improve ant m nt in bla bid rul rui thing Lhing in machinery and an I 1 in evey eve y brai i i 0 business I 1 learned the porters pc art alft as 33 I 1 hav said and bave have 1 ave carried on the business UlleSS I 1 always found that I 1 could im prove pi ve and ari arl I 1 nev nei neer er saw a Journe journeyman vinan but I 1 c itald aul lul 1 learn I 1 irom from rom it is is so in england and P eie ele el e I 1 saw new styles in m staf st f ford foid shire pu P u ind when whet I 1 was there I 1 saw sau I 1 something t une hub ht hue i e that t lat wis was very beautiful and superior bupt nor to aio alo ai v ii i ng I 1 had ever seen before beron so it is in ir bui bu ing daig in mit mil this you know wiil wid apply to otil olli 0 11 sisters as well weli M 11 as I 1 to 0 ir r eld eidi eldi eidia i i in short we should ail all allitto alliy ely to improve iiii ir ev ly ry thing that tl it is 13 good I 1 ne net det er r saw baw a bet bed r ame i me than it is toda today to da day dax to improve in every tt tl aig i g t at is good and tien then continue I 1 the work i 0 o morrow mirrow m irrow the n nac ext day and so on 1 blest the it i ani capi cup 1 I 1 I 1 wish to L dl ak about tangs tb that are present wit wll ai us tl t pertains part p mains maids ains to v ua we are continually talan bout being the saviors sanora or ot men inen I 1 now how 1 i it possible for one of us 1 I will wiil take bake myse fr tut an example and I 1 will i epert i if I 1 do not take a course to preserve myself and my family my wives an I 1 children to pro v de for a ai i d fe fe f e I 1 and clo cio clothe t he a s small smail family I 1 wait wai t to kitow ki aw what I 1 c in n do for foi a large one we have t j bain vain li am this and that if we cannot take a couise course f 11 3 lay up cheit corns corno corn meat and the comforts c offo t s of life make cloth for our fa fain int lies we cannot make cloth cluth nor nor ide for others if we do not take a course to pi ovide vidt for those a around 0 nd u us can we provide for tor our fri friends ends eDds we cannot then ahre is th place I 1 tor ua us to b in right here in the mountains mounta ns ve we are 0 out it of bread we ive have hav hai e none in the tithing only what we have drawn from iron san pet and box E der er counties are i we not in a fi ie e condition S suppose appose the lord should deal with us as he is dealing with the people in california and those in in missouri what should shmid we doo do I 1 saw it in the kapcia pa pei pel s that they have got as beautiful straw as ever rew but there is not a kei kel feinel nel nei of wheat in in it f E f this sho id be the case with us or if the lord should sen a hailstorm to destroy our grain widd woud we not be in in a bad situation as a people I 1 can tell you it is 13 time lime for us to be humble prayerful to live our religion not only those men inen who arild office not merely those who are I 1 selected to b iad bad ad prayer circles elides and to pray according cor cot ill lil to the holy order but it is is for all and we should ask our father to bless these mountains and valleys to bless our crops our herds und and ind flocks hocks for every soul ayou know that by them our natural lives et then supposing your wheat is 13 preserved and mine is cut cutoff off and that there are three fourths of this people without bread gentlemen you have got to divide with us until wo we are all put gut now dont you see that it depends upon one man as is much as another do you think I 1 i would like to lock up my drawers and bins and tie up my sacks no and if any of Y you yon 0 want to do it we should not let you vve we Ive would talk to our bishops and let them open the bins and take out a little and then pay you fon for forit it we do not want it of you for nothing at guch such times we want to pay you the gold and ind silver bliver pr your grain or whatever we re ive lve iye from you suppose that thai each of you baa bad lour jour hats curf gold it would woula waud not vake make bread and nd if ya you a pur put yeast yeast dinst tl it evou would d not rise I 1 have seen the time when my hatful of gold would not buy a barrel of flour and then again I 1 have seen the time when it could be got for almost not nothing hing bing I 1 contend that every man that holds the priesthood ought to be a savior temporally as well as spiritually for we are in duty bound to try to save our natural lives I 1 would not give much for a spirit without a body because it takes the spirit and the body to make the soul boul of man the temporal tempora and the spiritual must be united to make the man the lord I 1 is beginning to pour out his spirit more abundant abundantly lv upon poll his bis people and he is also bourin pouring out his his hia wrath upon the wicked ed I 1 especially the tle tie missourians Missour ians and others in the states their cattle are dying with disease their crops are being cut off and while these things are taking place you and I 1 ought to be I 1 humble and ard faithful ul we ought to be good lood ad stewards addlay and lay up stores for that time walo which ich is to come and thereby prepare for a day of sc scarcity brethren en do you y ou believe that there will be thousands and hundreds of thousands that will flock to this people for bread for meat for clothing and for tor the comforts of life such sach i i will be the case and I 1 do not know but it will come before we are ready for it T there thera erel has never been a greater prospect of g aari aill than ihan there is at the present time bat but we cannot tell how it will be next year at this tills time there are hundreds of men in in this church that i would not nave have believed that this people would have been brought down to the scarcity of wheat they are now where is the wheat we boasted about having baving the army down at camp floyd have got three years provisions on hand and in case of famine they would have to feed us but dont i ou see t they ey have got the trie power in their own liadis h ands adds and we we hava have placed that power in their possession what do 0 we find in the bible upon this subject the alrie children of this world are wiser in their generation than tharl the children of light they make inake preparation for that which ia is to come more so than many of this people do now you know that you have tried to make it appear that br brigham drig Brig haim halm has sold his grain to the aricy airry but he says be he has not and nd I 1 know he has not neither have I 1 fh 1 have e hauled wheat to the camp that the merchants merc ants nit rit have iou lou ought lt of this people and rheve chave got git my pay for it when I 1 wab was on my bay last trip it was reported that I 1 was sending 8 ev ai 9 my wheat beat IV to fort hall nall but I 1 never bent sent any there I 1 do not suppose there is a man nere here that believes that president pres Pies ident young or myself have sold our wheat and flour or provisions of any kind but they seeni to have a mind to make a scapegoat of us but in this they have done wrong if we had done as many of you have you would not have had a mouthful for there are many of yon you who do not raise any and who have none but what you get from the tithing office and from private individuals I 1 have have talked with br brigham and he says that if this army were ere to go away and another come in two years this people would da do justas jast just as the they have done one but we ive must stick to them it it makes ine me feel and it ought to make you feel we put our grain into the hands of those men that should execute the law and see that we are protected but they have come here to ta take k e your lives and mine and if you would destroy all that kind of wickedness that has been jin introduced trod live your religion ye elders of israel and honor your high callings I 1 have done just as I 1 have said I 1 eave wave have let my wheat out to my brethren I 1 could have had bad two dollars per bushel but I 1 would not have taken three dollars and I 1 still have some wheat il in my bin bill I 1 want to see the brethren and sisters engaged gagelin in home manufactures my family are making ailing cloth now and it would be a good rood thing if all the people in this territory would go to making cloth to clothe themselves with what says one make cloth now when there are arc plenty of goods yes I 1 am going to make more cloth this year than ever eter I 1 did before there are people in this congregation that I 1 could point out who have decided to please themselves about making clothes cloth cioth is and everything ele but I 1 can tel toil you that we have to learn to pursue that course that will make us independent we must learn to keep our grain take care of our stock keep what we have got and get what we can honestly and we should never slacken in the principles of industry in mechanism nor in the economy of life are you taking that course brethren are you br heber I 1 am I 1 can prove it I 1 nover rover saw a time when it was more needed than it is now and it will be more needed yet some will ivill turn round and say if you are just you will teach us what gods will is pertaining to us the lord has said that he will provide for his saints and nourish them and send his angels to protect them dont you see he ia is a jealous god he is jealous of the nations of the earth and he is going to scourge them theta for their iniquities these are my feell gs and these are things that I 1 know and I 1 speak in soberness in sincerity and in truth am I 1 going 0 to bow down and let my enemies have power over me no sir bir i r no person p ers 0 n will prohibit or attempt to prohibit ab i t a any Y 0 one n e doing right except those that I 1 do not wish to keep the commandments of god such for instance as the thief the robber the whore and whoremonger and those that t try to make all the lies they can brethren iren Kren Bret brethren let us gird up our loins and be faithful in all things will you go nak naked ed and hungry no not if you will do right r t there will be an abundance for all t that at do 0 right alavo been as p poor oo 00 r agthe lie p poo poorest es 0 mai man you ih av bee r so poor 4 r that ib iha Iba many f tims times mbeni had bad biot alb aib ange of s slits I 1 have re also been with ith br brigham whence were both very poor and when you talk about goi gol going n through troubles and trials I 1 think of what I 1 have passed through for the gospels sake in connection with my brethren but in the midst of those trials 1 have always been th we e happiest what have we sacrificed no thing at all when we consider that all belongs to our father why do you want to get up in the meetings of the saints and tell bovy bow you have sacrificed think of this in the future have we not been among false bretor bret brn n yes yee we have suffered from that source when joseph had to flee and there was hardly a person that thit you could trust that was a trying time you have left your home homes you have left nations of tyranny and add oppression opar and have come to these peaceful valleys where the devils have been matle made subject tp to the priesthood of the fhe most high so far as I 1 am concerned I 1 can say that I 1 have sacrificed ignorance to get light I 1 have sacrificed to over overcome come the delvil devil and I 1 will rise with those that rise and come off victorious to I 1 consider that I 1 have sacrificed nothing for god but that the sacrifices I 1 have made are for my own individual benefit and to benefit the almighty this is my testimony and you know it as well aa as 1 I do then do not talk about these sufferings Buffe rings do not go down to the grog shops and get drunk fall and break your noses and then tell how much you have buffered suffered for the gospels sake do not go without clothes when you might have plenty go to work and purchase a ewe sheep and then you will soon have plenty yes you will soon have a large flock our chorister had bad abut ut two sheep four years ago and now he has a nice little flock and has sold some and you can do as well if louwill you 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