Show 1 I 1 I 1 I 1 REMARKS i by y president B young in tie the tabernacle Tabera acle in in G S lake cily march 1803 1863 I 1 do not know that hat I 1 e ein cin in speak so that you yon can call hear me as you pet perceive ceide eive something effects effect sm my thiral oat I 1 wish however how ever to say a few words word to you yon this no n ing ms I 1 would like to S ay cons i a good many w words ards but perhaps a few will answer I 1 I 1 there area are a goodly cumle auml e in in tae t le con congregation zi degation who have been acquainted with this church and kingdom 11 from the rise of it that knew joseph in in his first ear cai eer in in the gospel there are many here hei e that have been in in tile chinch for fifteen sixteen and some more moie than twenty year I 1 have been ill in the church chinch wanting a few days daya of twenty one years year and there are a consider consi dei able bumber that I 1 know have been in in it longer than I 1 have they knew joseph they knew him from week to week arid abid from year to year they knew what he did they knew how lie he they knew the spirit he be possessed they were acquainted with it it is is the same spit sanit it they possess to the present day da ahe spirit or of mormonism the spirit of tile the gospel gopel I 1 will ask those brethren and thoe sister s if t they hey b believe ele ve joseph saith S aith WAS a prophet of god if they b believe elile e that lie he magnified his calling callings 9 1 I 1 will ask the them in if J joseph eph lived arid and dud died a P pi ophee of god and what would they answer every anan man and woman knows by the power of the holy ghosal h Os I 1 J by the spirit they know it by the light that is is in in them for ight fight cleateth clea veth to fo light and truth embraces truth anese pure attributes aej told you here a few sab baths ago stand upon their own basis the fabric sustains itself hilt but falsehood arid and that which is is built upon it will sooner oi 01 later fall I 1 how many witnesses could we bring men that are upon the islands of the sea iu in foreign land and people scattered through the united S slates t ate hundreds and nd thousands in in their poverty who are not able to gather with tae saints I 1 ask what would they witless if they were her heie e today to day aney would tel you and they would sound it so that thal all the world might 3 harif they could that joseph smith was a man c called all of god to build up his kingdom in in the last days d ays liepa to the coming of the son of man alan there are many w witnesses it nesses here not only witnesses of joseph arid and his hib career but witnesses of the disaffected spirits that have come into this church arid and gone out again are there witnesses of men trying to rise up and usurp josephs place in hi his day e are many witnesses that many men have tried it are there witnesses here of the rise rise and fall of men mei in in this kingdom kingdoms 9 yes plenty of them I 1 have witnessed more than has been pleasing tome to me Ittle it delights lights me 1 t to 0 e ee e men come e i into n to th the e ell chuich u i cb arid ana in magnify a i i i f y t the h e 1 holy il 0 I 1 y P r ottom d but it is is a grievous diat matter t e r t to 0 see inen turn away from the holy commande comman commandments dm ants delav ei ed unto them gather to themselves false spirits follow after a be duped by the devil he be east ared ai ed by the power of the enemy and give way to it until they fall it is is a source of regret but we witness it il we could name many of this class let me ask this congregation congie gation that fiat portion of it that was in in jckson jackson county and agaibi again that portion that was in in kirtland Ki rlland in in t the lit days OF ot juern joseppi Jos epli arid and iii in beavin leaving kirtland Ki rlland then those thoe that tha were in in caldwell Cald mell and davis counties missouri aleu ask those who were in nauvoo in in his day arid and after lie he was sl slain these portions of my egadon which I 1 have hav e men I 1 will ask what lias has produced your pei sedi eions and hoi row what has been tile the starting point ot of all your affliction they began with apo apostates tates in your midst these disaffected spirits caused others to come in worse than they who w ho would run i un out and brins bring in all the devils they possibly could that has beert been the starting point and grand cause ot of all our d lies every time we wei e driven aie there not bitne v itin ses of this her e yes a good portion of this congregation ate ai e witnesses of these things although many of af them never saw Jo joseph arid and wem weite not pe per r anally acquainted with hurt him we have been per persecuted secured we have built houses made daims cultivated the land broken up I 1 the wild pi p airie auie arid and made it like the garden oi of eden we have fenced built arid and gathered substance around us many times t ines and as many times have been driven from our posses until we came to this inheritance wh which i ch we now ei enjoy joy in in these valleys of the I 1 mountains now think a moment reflect and ask yourselves what do we see her heiek e I 1 am ain coming coining near er home I 1 an air coming coining to this placie what do we see here heie lo do 10 we see disaffected spit its herel here we do do we see bee apostates 9 wedo we do do we see men that are aie following 11 after false arid and delusive spirits spirit yes ye a man an e omes comes right out as an all independent devil de il arid and s sas a damn and all tiie the limous klano Mi vs and is off with himself him seir riot noi to texis texas hilt but to california you know wow it used to be to texa fexas I 1 say lie is is a gentlemark gent lemart by afie side ot of a nasty sneaking apostate who is i opposed to nothing but chi I 1 siy say to him go in peace sir go ana and prosper it if you can but we have hav e got a set ot of spirits liere worse than such a character when I 1 went from meeting I 1 last sabbath my ears were saluted with an apostate crying in in the streets here I 1 want to know it if any one of you 5 on who havi have got tb bp e of you tile the sanit spit it that joseph jos ep h and hyi haium tim had or 01 that we have here would say I 1 let us its heir hear both sides of the question let us listen an and d bove p ove a all I 1 things what do you want nant to piove giove do you want to pi prove ove that an old apostate who has been een cut off licitri aiom the church thirteen thi iteen times for lying is anything worthy of notice I 1 heard that a certain gentleman a picture maker makei in in this city when the boys would have moved away the cwi wasa on ln in which this apostate was standing became violent with them saying let this man alone these are saints that are aie persecuting sneering ly we want such men to go to lo Cli california fornia or 01 any where they choose I 1 say to lo thoe persons 1 you must not court persecution peise cution here lest you get so much of it you will not know what to do with it do NOT court persecution we have known gladden bishop for more moie than twenty years year and know him to be a poor dirth dai ty curse cui se here is is sister vilate kimball bro aebers wife has borne moi e from that man mail than an any y lather other woman on oil earth could bear but she wont bear it again I 1 say again you gladde lites do not cou court rt aej persecution peise se cution or you will get more than you want and it will come quicker than you want it I 1 say to you bishops do not allow them to preach in in your maids who broke the roads to these bese v alleys valleys 9 idid aid this little nasty smith and his wife no they staid in in st louis while we did it peddling ribbons and kissing the gentiles I 1 know what they hey have done here they have asked bitant prices for then th ell nasty stinking ribbons voices true 21 we broke the roads to this country now you gladden ites keep your tongues still lest sudden d destruction est ruction comes upon you I 1 will tell you a dream that I 1 had last night I 1 dreamed that I 1 was in in the midst of a people who were dressed in rags ragi and tatters they had turbans tui bans I 1 upon their heads and I 1 these hese were also hanging in in tatters the rags were of many colors and when the PC people ople moved they were all in motion their object in in this appeared to be to t attract atten attention tiow said they to me we are mormons cormons bro brigham no DO you are not I 1 replied but we have been said they and began to jump and caper about and dance arid and their rags of many colors were all in in motion to attract the attention ot of the people J said you are no saints you are a disgrace to them said they we have been mormons cormons Mor mons by and by along came some I 1 and they greeted them with how dodou do you do sn sir I 1 am ain happy to SOP ep yon they kept kenlon on that way for foi an hour I 1 felt ashamed oi of them for they hey were in my eyes eves a disgrace to mormonism then I 1 saw avo 0 wh whom 0 m I 1 knew to be robbers and murderers ind and they crept into hito a bed where one of my wives wives and children were I 1 said you that call yourselves breth me is is this the bashi fashion ion among among you t they said 0 they are goo good d men they are ge gentlemen nt lemen with that I 1 took my large bowie knife that I 1 used to wear as a bosom pin in in Nati nauvoo and cut one of their throats from ear to ear saying go to hell bell across lots the other one said aid you d dye are not serve me 30 so 11 I 1 instantly sprang at him seized him by the hair of the lead head and b ginging ingma him down cut ins his throat and sent him after b his is comrade then told them both it if they would behave themselves hem selves they should yet live but it if they did not I 1 would then their necks at this I 1 awoke 1 I say rather than that apostates shall flourish here I 1 will un uns heath beath my lay bowie knife and conquer or die great commotion in in the congi degation ega tion and a simultaneous burst of feeling a centing sen ting to tile the declaration now on oil nasty apostates clear out or judgment will be put to the line and righteousness to tile the plummet voices generally go it go it if you say it is is right raise your hands bands all hands u up p let us ns call upon the he lord to assist us in in this and every good work after alfred smith was called upon to go on a mission mission he be would not go and I 1 knew he aou would id apostatize do you suppose that after a a man has refused to fulfil fulfill his calling he can retain the spirit of truth handstand and standa he can not they say they believe that joseph smith was a prophet raised up to tg establish the work of the last days and bring forth the book of andtius and jlius thus they deceive but if you will examine them you will not find anything but i contradiction contradicts xi to toem every principle of truth I 1 11 1 IM I 1 felt to say t tins bis that tha t I 1 have said I 1 t it my kay n is very s sore ore but I 1 thin think k this exercise hasdore it lii f I 1 feel to say to jew aud to gentile let this 1 3 alone in these thee valleys of the mountains or you fl find that which yo you u are aie not looking tor for we aari W j the lot eloids ds side and we have tile the I 1 to work te e but shall this people sink no the tune time has va 2 fil p I 1 that israel shall be rp redeemed deemed arid and they never sh 0 eal ti it ambled under foot again now kow is is the time a ic vir pile told old us before he be was killed the set time to favor N 11 had come I 1 want you to hear bishops bishop what I 1 ell e about to te adl on kick these aado men out 4 ar if you ou want to apostatize apo stati I 1 zeana behave e eav I 1 selves you shall no not t distin b my peace nor the 10 t of this people it if you want logo to go to california K 1 le s an and d serve gladden bishop there if you fishio vish i 0 e disturb riot not this community or else you will wi W i ll 11 die ab judgment is is laid to ahe lina oo do not court pen oli tion ciol i for remember ou are not playing with sat ha be e but it is is the voice arid and the haid of the almighty st are ae a e t trying i to play with wih and you will find yo rob mista mistaken ken i it f you vou think to lit alie e contrary I 1 b tat may we lord bless you my bretor A I 1 arid andy I 1 uan ll 11 all tile tie time that we my may be preserved in the beetem beitem I 1 M i th that at when the lord has anything for us we ift wt reads ready to receive it and obus serve seive him all ali thea the k rf 1 i long g if we have not been d diven iven far tar 9 enough th to f tile joy peace tell me where next we can call bed be A iven 4 ka till to 10 find it and if apostates follow let them follow tire tl REMARKS call J by P P brattin piatt pi att in the tabernacle tabea tick in G S Z Q trai of s j sunday march 1853 riot Bl brethren ethren arid and sister si steif my feelings are with ID who have spoken decidedly and firmly so you hi 11 heard with reference to the experience of the pa alli hlll I 1 have had an opportunity to obtain experience in iti I 1 ito ild past and to observe as much per perhaps haps as any one y now living as it regards the church chuoc h of 0 k K li saints in this ae a age 11 e 0 on n and I 1 b bear ear testimony not on only ly by the he hol holy v spik eill but by personal observation lemorl memory experienc empei bencen elk i per sona I 1 knowledge that tha what b has been een said is ta S ail strictly speaking in all its bearings in regard to io 4 tt b j result of apostasy apo stacy tacy as it relates es to persecutions bred bre itri k n ing up tip robbing robbia plundering suffering dring arid and marth a b j dow dom in this wor world I 1 d tet be tile the subject that has been presented here by fitt aft young I 1 have revolved over in my own mind arak aira a r fleeten fleeted upon it in its order I 1 remember well be sen tha scenes and the he places he referred to arid and I 1 do know of one single persecution of any magnitude til th ha brought trouble and general distress upon al people of god in this age that was not brou glit 1111 but directly by tot bf those that went outa out m go ourselves our selve who professed to lo be of us uc if I 1 may 4 oil capt the lyst ap st trouble tiou blein in jack jackson jackon on county k I 1 lived there at that time ana I 1 do not 11 know that apostates or unlawful conduct on the lim let of those professing prof essma to be saints were tire lie artie on agents ot of bi ginging bunging about that persecution I 1 do 0 lie know so 0 o tar far as my own acquaintance with ohp ea 4 wv cum stances is concerned but that may be an exe each ba turn tion I 1 do not recollect but what the world there ali wali 1 W out aid fi aiom om apostates arose up and hd did what aba II 11 sl did vw voll I 1 mr pratts pi aels mind was refreshed eseed by a person intha in allx i rn inn stand that there was an apo apostate slate who wrote a book boa sill previous icus to that persecution I 1 now recollect then thai dr were some writers among was a mr boob yo that ilia had thad been ordained orla onla ined to he priesthood in tin tb church he published things well calculated to i bring on oil persecution there also might have bee beai j othis oth is til but I 1 was speaking of personal actors there in tn tin th L county it was riot not then as generally is la do it has been since aided by those ft aiom om among among our 0 selves selve in all the general persecutions from at that till til t to the present I 1 do do not recollect of a single in lna stance that the general storm was not brought I 1 about 1 I by men fi aiom om among ourselves professing prof profession essin g the he naan pr membership and priesthood of the L latter tt day huntr ual traitors tors to the cause that they professed pi of essed to belbert se c atis was 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