Show DISCOURSE by elder J W W Cumin cummings ings tabernacle sunday morning feb S 17 REPORTED BY ily J X V LONG I 1 staw stam before people this morning that bare barp ba c had the gospel preace preached ed to them from one to 25 years I 1 am ap requested to make a few remarks and to tali tell lirou jirou and my brethren who occupy the stand sonka of my feelings I 1 have been trying for t the h ee months 0 o disseminate the RE ciplys s of tui rui tai ocion lon ion aag this tills people or among that hit por tion tian ct 0 them where I 1 have haie been appointed 1 to laii 11 vi I 1 I 1 shall make the same request of you 1 ning i ah I 1 made of the people in in the C tings where I 1 teach vi vi to leave that AA I 1 i out of dams daws entirely out of your minds 11 ave assembled for the purpose of wor z j god or awill 1 will say that if it we have not com ere or for that purpose we had better leave the e and give room for those that have come fw far I 1 i purpose I 1 do know that no person can emo i a full flow of the spirit of god when his lils gie man is itt wande andenas rim to the ends of the earth neither reither cali can ia ii n speak with ith that flow of spirit to a conon conci 9 enk enu under tinder such circumstances that be he could 1 jil minds were upon the lord if we wish peel to j v a f full till fruition of the spirit of the lord wa X ft A t let our minds relax ana and be free from the labor of f the week and to put away froin froia our uund lings 33 that pertain to this world it is but bat aga ama i week that we ae assemble here for the pur por peg jsn rii c worshipping wor shipping the lord and certainly we qan gan 1 ird led jd j rd d to devote the time that we are here to att pose poe po e to the tae wor hip of our god I 1 k w v not what subject I 1 shall speak to you lupos but I 1 do da esteem it a great privilege to have ha e the wei A ty of standing before my brethren ml tf ers and of off declaring unto them my feeliks si L tell teli telling ing them hem what I 1 know about the gospel 0 doing they will wiil ascertain whether I 1 know wi bersand ler ier hrs krs sand and the same as they do or not if 1 I ow that my words are dictated by the right t and td that they penetrate by the spirit of tito ihl thy 0 tile the hearts of the people then I 1 sh skill til ill eliat they are re edifying for all are one that thit havn have e ame same spirit they will all know and ac manen manam in in the sentiments because the spirit that dia din gg us agrees but if I 1 am of the spirit of the am if and I 1 teach unto you the things tf cis ch the tie e M it and you have the spirit of the living god i y you on the things which I 1 speak will not be ve i nor instructive unto you consequently T stand before you I 1 desire to have your UM faedi und nd prayers that I 1 may say something that tint wal ivill IP 2 useful to you and calculated to enlighten yawl yau yuu rands r ads because 4 I 1 feel when preaching the to i les ies es of the reformation that I 1 am edif ying i my i as huoh or more than those I 1 speak to abidi abedi at and idI edi 1 0 believe that mis this is is the case with every me j o n stands forth to teach the people if cloth ely ety 1 the power and authority au authority thorit y of heavens heaven then the will speak through him hlin and teach bim him gift that int he be never thought of before in in his tits ilfe tw aa klow know ki ow this to be the fact by my own eapen mtv hav hai ave e had ad for foi the last three month months s a great aw of preaching and certainly a person would ly y think that we have had enough to iva lva live ilse T V ie le we rema remain inin in this probationary statland state and ind ua i 1 we never heard another word that WP we had nee nce I 1 unbent un Kent if it we were to be steadfast t I 1 ag zent gent always found laboring labo ing to win ivin the tile tia yla tl it t is is before before us biu bin instead of this dwir b n a wic tc we are made up of weaknesses and w e are aro aw t f full fuli aill of them and they are eo so comp complick com ilca licu ed i ihal thal ba v P need to be instructed every day and every hotl how r our outlives lives ilves to keep us where we should bey bel b lc r that we my enjoy the holy spirit I 1 la S j e mv my e ideas in relation on to tile tiie reformation d I 1 r relation lation to the sit situation ution and alv alu condition of ah rie ople and vas in relation to the course that chev wili will i ie e to pardue persue in order older to procure eter 1 a 1 11 now I 1 dabolt do bot hot feel tho the same 1 v A no coming ning hing that I 1 would if I 1 stood here indeli ard alone for if I 1 should advance ah ance ideas tit rot 0 o correct thero there are those hei hel heie e whose c iv iv I 1 n correct any y principle that I 1 may inay advance advani e if ern the fie first place I 1 will say that I 1 have no lob lot t tie 4 e reformation com commenced tried to get i a t A t was not riot according to knowledge bilt but I 1 i glit clit diligently to faithful di discharge im mv bilut c iain tain omain the spirit of the god that ru uny A ni lit ait enlightened be that my understand i bt be expanded that I 1 r P 11 hl see and un aj ij nl the mind and the w will ill lii of 0 i the te lord cn c n 11 nt ap me I 1 nii sip was as always satisfied when I 1 had got bs b s mind and will concerning the th people whom I 1 II 11 I 1 P I 1 heen been sent to teach and that spirit is is calell clu kli to t lead leadus us on to the obtaining s of eternal eternal life thre thare th re have been many who perhaps have run n n JU r than thin their then ballast would allow or W hwe hive comin commenced emed the race in uch such a way 1 th I ll 11 t 9 on were nere notable not ahle able to continue it though fied VW hw fi first st rate for tor a season we read of son IP wt wh appeared paired to make great for a tim tun int f ef ter a while they left he tile principles of the he dnn rwal I of life and salvation and went away into ei i t ess esq we have been taught taugh tag as I 1 vedin FW from one to 26 vears years and if wo 1 ok k at the thing naturally alIyA we have had bad teat 41 to make us PA perfect ct in the things W of ohp loid but hut when the servants of god stand up t liow flow ho us the way of life and we bein beul benl to i 1 ip bursel ourselves v er to 0 o scan our ways ala aia mir our hs and t they h e begin to show us the course we a pursue we find that we come far short of av v i 1 4 the blevings bl Eings that we might have enjoyed WM JOTT i led ed that tse ive had tz allowed the course marked out cut dt iv them we ve have baye been children and we bdie oaie aue awe had hid ad the pro peo rasse by those that hold at life and death that if we would forsake our ma ad d worship the true and living god that our tom tow s ding fing should no comoe more be remembered against US aati anti that we should be held as though we had not nol sinned I 1 that this is ii one of the greatest offers cy ever given to the children of men me consider tite tife course that we have pur sued for the last seven year years we find that we have in in a great measure forsaken the lord and come far short of the blessings that it is our now to enjoy what has here there been to prevent ent us from worshipping wor shipping the true and livin living god we have had bad no gentiles to interfere inte pitr with us we have no laws except those we have twe made oui selves we have had no rulers except those that we desire to rule role over us ald ard helice liei ce we have no excuse if we have not made emde progress it is not the fault of the almighty nor of his servants whom w horm horn he has placed upon n the earth I 1 now N w then I 1 i all or 0 r faults ai at d J weak leases and the sins bloat WP we ha h w e eom vom knitted yet thy have come out and told us that tint our sins sins should be forgiven and that we should have all an opportunity of being saved in in the kingdom of god brethren and sisters I 1 do consider this to be the I 1 greatest offer of mercy that has ever been sho shown wn I 1 to the th human famil family and we should all nil dippre clate late aate it as such jf wr we are guilty of goinicz gol goi a on oil ili in our ins sins and trespassing tres passing r upon the laws of god and of committing sin sin against our brethren and sisters piers pi ers and against our god we ought to be damned 1 I 1 wili will tell you what I 1 believe the next time we ire are called in q ien ten ton tun to be judged as we have bave been this time it will not be said of us its that the tile lord will forgive foi fol eive give our sins sins I 1 tell you I 1 believe I 1 that mercy will ill lii step aside and that we will have to atone for fjor ail all our sins that we have committed I 1 u agon upon this earth and if i we go on sinning against I 1 the lord and transgressing the laws that ee he has 1 given us to walk by every sin that we have cm bitted since since we have been baptized into the church of jesus christ of latter day saints we shall have to atone for for I 1 can tell you that mercy will not have any claim apon upon such these are the views that I 1 take of the subject and these are the views views that the people should take of it just ask yourselves the question what progress have we made since we came into thes these valleys now if we have moe made no pr progress otress wrt what has hindered if it Is it because the servants of I 1 god have not told us butow how bow to live lire and because i they tiley have not told us what to do day after day and week after week and because they have hava not taught aught us to live iii lii e our religion no it is not Is it lecause because we have had to go out and fight mobs no it is not Is il it because we have bad to go and delve in the rocks rocas from monday morning to saturday night to procures procure S subsist subsistence ence once no for I 1 do be believe belleve lieve that the lord has never blest most any portion of the earth and caused it to produce in greater abundance than bebas he has thesey these alleys valleys since j we ve have iri Iti habited inhabited hem consequently we have no excuse to render whatever he ife is willing to impart unto us knowledge continually ft if we are prepared to receive it but we have placed our affections upon the things of this world andi and have haie forgotten our god we have done that which we hould should not have done and we have left undone the things we should have dope I 1 we will take for granted this that you have forsaken all the sins that have been mentioned to you voll by the servants servant of ane tb elord lord or in 1 other words hat that you could raise your handi bandi and say that you have rot been guilty guiry of those sins since e the tiia reformation commenced for arguments mentis sake we will say this but does cops that ena end end the reformation Jor mation matlon or place us in in fh e pr of our god tot tob to ajoy enjoy t the he blessin blessings irs ai and A ae we privileges that are 0 to be e enjoo cd by those who gin gain gln celestial glory now if 1 I understand the gospel correctly cornec ml it 7 does not rot but there is is much yet to be done 0 are a great many who b have bave ave made the observation that they have had the he reformation and got through I 1 with wilb i it and ancl they are thankful foria but I 1 look took j for all such to leave in the spring for california or some other place I 1 look unon the matter in this light and I 1 verily believe that they cannot stay here bere a great while at least I 1 hope dope and pray that t hey they may not be able to stay whether it lakes me my family or any other othey person iffe it we can answer conscientiously every question I 1 conclude that we are in a fair way for progressing in in thetha the things of the he kingdom of godana god and we are pi sparing for foi taking a step that we should hay have taken three ten and some of us fifteen years ago now if we have got upon that platform we are preparing arinto to take an important step is 19 the king dom of god no now w in relation n to the or standard by which W aich we have been measured I 1 could refer fo to many in the gentile world who profess to be inai dis llis ll d Is that have bave never been guilty of violating it so to far as modality moia lity and virtue are concerned notwithstanding they did not believe in god GA or ia in his divine law faw do we suppose that those persons are coming forth in in the morning of the first fi st resurrection to be crowned downed with glory immortality ani and I 1 eternal live ih 9 no not for a momen we 0 do o believe they wll w 11 be bo rewarded ac according cordin I 1 to the deeds done in thi the body if we have Ip become colne coine so that we can be meas red by that stai stal idaa idam tuam d akl aki and aul anwer answer an truly bruli to all its requirements then we are re I 1 pi pie pip dared to advance in the knowledge of god I 1 the spirit of the lord is is a spirit of wisdom y of and of knowledge a spirit tilot hat v 1 I 1 enable us to see ee underhand and comprehend t i i deities d aties to each other to our evec ibid id to our 0 and this wll wil 11 i athle I 1 do not believe that it is a spirit that hat will make us feel well for the he moment and then leave leav e us u but I 1 believe that those who enjoy thil tha spirit of the tile living god will increase nerease in in knowledge and intel li licence ence all th tha time tune in in 11 i ace alid an 1 it in the tile ki the rl II 11 blid anil u i ti til cortini is vi v K 1 dinae at tho tha I 1 a melaure mel mea nure aure ie of the sture of the thia I 1 falness of christ or in other words be prepared to enter into the presence of god be crowned with glory immortality and eternal lives are we going tog to gt t these ihn ga all ail at enve ence qi PP or in other words are we going to b boino af pf fer t in in one day no we are not because we are poor I 1 frail mortal beings and it will require lire tire diligent perseverance in asto us to become perfect in th the knowledge of god why have we sinned against our I 1 ia god awan twan Is s i it I 1 bese because we desire deare to do croop or is it t because e we have been tempted temp tell teil by vat an feed unseen reed 1 i ingue influence nce which is around us I 1 believe it is the I 1 latter that causes us to sin I 1 contend that if ever I 1 we enter into the presence of our father in heaven we will get there by a continual increase of knowledge and wisdom i I 1 have heard some of the he elders of israel when addressing the people exhort them hem to love god rod with all their might I 1 mind and strength I 1 aid aa ald they troy would preach for houis and never tell the penile pe pele Ie the way to love god but I 1 will tell you vou iny lov belief ads respecting pecking that I 1 do not belie beile believe belleve ve that we can love any being whom we know nothing about if I 1 love br brigham br heber or any other j man it is because I 1 know thorp thorr it is be b e alise aitse I 1 en eu ov tili 0 a o i pint that dt it is be beane became ane aue I 1 fa tin e K a ii ff cf the same ence hat lat they lai e received and they have received a portion of f the antell intelligence ence of the he living god and therefore I 1 love their them and our fee feelings linzs are amalgamated ainali amali I 1 ga mated and if I 1 enjoy the spirit of the lord I 1 they feel well towards me and land thoy they fp fei igi I to love I 1 rno ir alid ami the more my ri ii indie my love of god abat trie trip moe irr e rv pv knowledge in relation to them increases inc reses if ia ii i I 1 will love them this is the principle 1 i which I 1 love any iny and every person in ne the worl wurl 1 that I 1 do love it is because I 1 know them now then thin then thi n I 1 may roay say that I 1 know a wicked vic kd man blu bin do 0 o I 1 ise lse ve that mii mir m n nr ir I 1 li m say that I 1 do or that I 1 do not 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