Show I I I i I I I I i I I SH BABCOCK HITTING BACK f J Clash Between Commercial Club A Champion and Harriman fK r i Attorney at al Hearing y it It rl VERY LIVELY WAR OF WORDS N Both Sides Exert Utmost Skill to ii r Draw Forth Damaging Admissions r Same Caine Ih If of n Sc hlo H I e 4 J i i j o Tc 1 This Mils Afternoon A w we war r of ot words word between AU Atty Aua r F O 6 OndI th the na r Ier the be tt Harriman line In la the rate rat PS tI hearing h tM f two t member at Ot attin tin commerce n x ami 1011 H st H k of or ut of the t flan Bait It Lake l I Club erah Tram Traffic bursa bureau bot In which lb each ch ell ellI X the utmost skill to lo trap P th t the theother other into Inlo favorable to ID tn the thep t p n ass an the th feature of or tb tIN hearing I this hi morning morn In InI When Mr lr brock ok na aa y railed called a as the chief witness on behalf tM half of tb lb Itt enn p of the C bureau that hat this r Is I being heing J grely In the ter of or heft freight MH tail 1 passenger J r r te tHo after a skein s of if his hi railroad nc It bark back i i tn to IMS 1 when he lie entered n red u ue the e railroad 1 In Jackson Michigan M Ih present presenta t o cod t a Vast a t u of or u t to lu s population r UI etc t of et tit UM Plate of flab tUh and nd the city of d Salt lk lake for far th the tho M lion of tb UN o oe n t 1 The Th matter also atao y omne of oC tb the rates lee complained of or by the t bureau huu and anti of the rate nets In r wilts MIlle U 11 r lOt S pound pounds per ifft mile mil which H k l I to deel de Ire i that the railroad wt l Hh After Aft UM tree reading Into the record by b Uti of aC f this x m nitre of r Prouty Prout asked saI ir If U U It I t was Witt I the tit desire delre no of th t the petit e MIU r U to have hta V both bath the tit and co 1 rands rat d Mr I JI k 1 toot thet IMM h WM wu th the of thee shippers kIN r f of thi section lection e that a r rm rele he t I et d for tor both the cla anil ilia i tY ii t flit tie Mr wn uita r n what to II a N ie t ble cola ml te Mr f that the rAilroads hay hav to nuke make ma to 0 zt ctt till tk tit A titter 1811 t Mid and tt Dillard at once OHM took up U th the answer a er i These Then the tho b band baat l or of your that the acts nutt lM male IJ by the s on onAn i any An other othI r ground I arm fale than u r Mi int tt b jck k said Mild lei that live bI matter m ut lc i f expediency waa w tart Rut tb the only ly 9 ground governing talc rate making that L e unit md due dears 01 la larE largely liens In to tn the th making of ot rate Nt awl am mileage e Where Vb lines JIa enter et tit lb the sent Meat y ales ale are arranged I between n the official of the t e competing tin llna 1 you not think Ihl It Improper fix rOI two or Inure more competing 1111 to Inter curter over the th making of vr rats rt tt ask nak naked asked II ed Mr iii r Nt Not If It th they take lake th the public Into t thelt the 1 e and d Mi I I do nH how ho your you tun H have be any en landing If It you yuu r put Id II d tInt t In h ld by bt t tin the th In III th the Ilna f r ud ra you yuu In K I 1 the Hie I II t t you jou harn ha VI jaM made mad madl 1 l o i t nut not think Mr k that t a aIh the Ih I 1 shall mati give fI I Is a tale fair fal if or ahl utu a r rea nh lair 11 that II u reasonable i rata ral rall tAt tAtI l I Ie one on which Ih the I trade re lly 11 move mon h allows u a full profit to the aka trades rad lall enan a fair t to III th the toi slut and lid put puts the thoo Into Int the hands hand hen at t ta r at lit a prim not Ilot unduly lI high 7 Mr pr Babcock B Paid abl h that Ut thata a fair II ut of what bat constitutes attU a 1 ar r an ble b rate rat but a d that l th hi rates nitI In for fori In this thin were WeN not i f t that Mi Yr I l It not net a tact fact Kr Ir H UK that It In Is not In lb to ua ea aen ot of f th t the i Bate at W In Itt halt that your yawn Hub of or but that dial It If Ir I dt dM r tul tu y a os to lu th the In tents tant of or this t hi lI Jl Mr Bb i k We W 14 that Uw tits th rates In III are re 7 mill awl nJ that Hi II arc i n dim diw ard ar arI t to t the hl shippers of r title thle ni Yu Ful Ih 11 t ill ilia as M to tn what t should H rf upon i Ira InH r sn 1 11 1 b ought tb tile tM rm Ion Wr Mr j r that tha t upon 0 y bonds 1 1111 4 IM fur r cHit t wa OIl l y goul 1 turn II I nf ut the sorely of I II th I the in tn ad Invest Inv tr wh h r Hi ulf risk lik va vas Ii p Hint That a t t 12 II per tent cent W Wt was II II t X V VT T TL TI i r in I u t lul 1 1 th Ih the PI 1 I in I IHK ilia 11 th the rud rd ru 4 built 11 Into tat Inc r rI i j lye lulu I It U to r l n Of 0 t IK Ill 11 ulterior I J i h tl I ld MM d etc w waS tUIl UI In snake Ill h It 1 4 w atwi MM 1 KM JI If tb they to Is the ni nt mun mC mu t k k ov b by the thu i road r rTh Tb Th n Mif oe I CIa sleW Mid 14 Mr un Uit 1 Iri t tans th the USk tt Pula by It vile virtu vII i h 11 i AhI I Is sallied 4 to tor es 11 r su II h rat ratty 1 a a w would give a it a s ai sI i each auch a Ill ItA you yes rU u Se b bi tall 4 i i i MINI h iv m 1 thus rat rate 1 v N I 10 1 low Ill as U to II tb the Denver A it II tad for rM whirls H Hi i In th Ike tees and nl J i 1 much mish pare inor to ml mal ln In lo to a go ge lilt Int the th hand dt Itt of K Ii I it Vi 1 i a III wa a iu lint Ial t tn to av r rih I Ih Ild ih h mich rueh rate n h b Id b till M wad IsadO and al ai ld I n ow h to r ProSy It 4 t In hr tb u ht M a of id jostles In t i all ail H vrn In ie U the lu matter t I eiN I tu to I Jud Judge Pay who I le n du liar It tin I t t n I f f bo kin Iau u uI I f II i HH 1 Vi H It k Ii I 1 j i i 1 n s i I 1 i toI il n i t i iII i iI II I II I n I I u I 1 I u 1 I r rM I Ir IrI t I II II II It I 11 M 11 I I 1 I 1 I I I II III r I I I I I 1 I II 10 III I Ii I 1 I k n h f I r rIlly j r rI I I Iii i Illy I I II It t la t y Ii lUl 1 u ii u iii uI I r p i SIp II nenI i In b il II III i I in I u i ullar ii I j it 1 i i i ii III II i I Ml ul II I I 01 I I I I 1 II I I r 1 1 i t S S 1 S H HITTING B GK i e one i rie r t by ts the t r minding I to 0 government nt ports inon ol thene I wet w of nf H live 1 t k mining and ml wool Wl tulon In during the year r Jm Other verv wen submitted to 10 show the division of freight In tn rrt en on the I 1 It 0 G In 1901 and ratos in effect rt t in IMS a 1 hatch of be I n Jr II J lek the Ih aloner Ioner of W Y lern fk tk allowing the Ita of 01 tiki U Url rate rl In tn effect t at prevent 1 the th date they went enl Into operation the he etc el of or all centor Ing t In SAlt from the tho thoLa La of tho rand to 10 their era ra for Ut test last year present claw Is And nd mt to together 1 gether with percentage t of nf of earning According to t ml with In cen per er per 1 1 ml mil mid the rate In n petition Tito impera w re by b Ally tty Dillard of nr them wo ere to 10 upon the ground of etc TIle The objection tion waa waived how over upon RH of ot Commissioner any nil Inaccuracies would be b ruled out OU D tho of the th rate dis 1111 discrimination crimination roles before fono the commission lon r um l J thiM morning J A Mum 00 traffic manager of or the Union 1 tall road wart to the IheI I tn confirm of oC the state statement ment made aa to till the di division 11 vision of revenue Now Ne York He that from the Atlantic seaboard to Now No York took K 15 per r cent of ot the th revenue and the bal loal balance ance wa w divided n nd the t tho th t U Ii per pOr cent and from river to San 85 pcr i tr nt 8 S V Y After Mr II Munroe to the division of the Ih rate Ie between the tho point named S V Y nl general freight spent of tho 1116 r Hla JUo ln 10 the I te that the time of transit of freight from Olt to Utah Uh under normal eon oon n IV from four and Md a I halt half to live five The Th lf that during the th y ar 1905 the tho D A II It O G 40 per cent cant of ot westbound Me tit originating at al the nIt orI river and east He 11 denied knowledge of any Rny agreement between an all to toor of or traffic coming O J oon hal had 1 t een fn re no received noce ce by the rood of or of through shipment end and th t the were more numerous now I W than f voral H MItO O the main then being the time and I now the rate The Th figures tI on oil tonnage between Utah and Colorado under the freight bu bureau bureau reau which comprehended the h move movement ment of or freight rl ht bv b ad all and fl rr lK url river and oo t Special exhibits showing report re of ot tonnage e of ot freight bureau covering east anti and e for tilt yearn IMS 1907 IMS to ana ani from fro nil II district JI Including the tho At u OAm were W Introduced and marked for reference referenceD D B D E Hurley Durl general 1 agent for or the Oregon Short Line tho next witness called He Mid Ihl Southern formerly tv pan a eng r agent In III this city up to 0 ars ago 1110 Mr r attempted to 10 cure from the n 1 a as to 10 tho Iho reason for tor the merging of or tho om office ce c during durin the ln 11 yeam 0 but ruled that this matter was II Irrelevant n nil to rate and It vim ruled out of ot or order der The Jhc witness said In to a n II tho Or ht did with th flAil fait l loIk p e enger l H to III mads get Oh The Th tn rIt Ali An gel Hi over the tho Ball L lAlu k on of tit 71 1111 mile In MO UI Mil via on a mileage nf ot mile mil the h rate ral m I Mr If the Ih rote ml from lAk Io 10 the h line 1 to 10 the IIII rate ral from that point tn In would not t l n leeo th th through nile nilo now no In lr Mr I r It IR III Mr h then n do you not th I through on n the of or tl II combined Mr Hurley We do tI not recognise the thet t Mr Why Mr Hurley there H imme Iome iii HUon an nil to t tho legality of 01 the Ih rate rae In tI of or n rate hue hu boen and Ua le 1 hll not been n by lo 0 tn In commenting on the In nf ot the lla block Allom of or sig III mid It 11 It II f rul o the magnate Our 01 motto Inott tn the otH of ot the lh lion bM n Safely fIl After thin m been rapidity m pit II I in the him han of ot business bu naturally comoa co rile Hie of the tho double Je truck will mean MolI tn In the handling nf JC The Th IJO ity Ily o IP III nf or hIon JIll Ip r done away Awn with The contin continual ual orders of are Incon Inon Inconceivably obstructive to tn mc with by I the truck tin of or trains will b tin the dispatch of ot 8 Mr rr Is I quartered at the Knutsford While In Ogden noon n route roule to 10 thin Ihl city It Mr Ir wild to nn In Interviewer that all the outlined by b th late Ite Mr and l ilin olf during their re recent cent trip through this section hud ben been approved by It the tho hoard f director oil and would IM pushed to completion with wilh all upon 1 He U also said that no of a nature In III the th actual of ot the h Harriman i In tI went I need ho be looked for forat at lit thin Ihl time aa the wan all tn In I did li pe fI and owing to ad admirable mirable condition of f left bv h Mr Ir there ht not be b any an pe 11 for fr Mr rr Krutt Krull that he would return iia soon tin nil the th mattern lit ue were nettled at Salt It Mr tr II still nn on the Ih stand when wilen II for luncheon was Willi taken at t l I 10 JO U It Is I expected that Julius director 1101 of or operation and maintenance ance ne of oC way of the th lItEm will O CUP the stand this aa he h arrived In th city olt evening In to a II subpoena him to 0 appear r at al the hear ing In announce 1 that the th railroad would bf b expected to ap pear ready rendy for argument um nt of ot their ther aide of the lite case In III this hi city It on Oct 29 After atter h briefs might be 11 filed From Irom present indications the hearing will not extend th Ian IRH of Uio present week eek anti and It Is highly h Ih I probable able that It may be concluded by b to tomorrow morrow evening so 0 that no Ion will be m held on Saturday during the visit of ot Pr eIdent Tart In this Ihla city u |