| Show J JOSEPH fT Al HOME fR FROM M ST LOUIS LOUISI Fair Fraud Committee Returns Anti And Ald Resumes its Is Work of or Investigation I LAX METHODS DISCLOSED Commissioners and ami nOI Say That It I Was Wil Not the Rule Hul to toI I Take Receipts I i IT I WAS DONE IN I SOME CASES One Instance or of Dollars Be Oc BeIng Ing lag Charged to the State Slate Twice The Incident Incident The Time subcommittee appointed to In Investigate the tho affairs of the tho Utah worlds fair commission W be blew w In from rein St SI Louis this morning and anc wa waon was wason I on hand promptly at ot 10 tO ready rendY I to 10 report tIme the result of oC Its It Investigations Tho rho ro committee consisted of on Joseph Joeph Gundry and their trip to 10 St Louis L was wae for the purpose of ot looking Into Inlo bank banI account and ascertaining If tt possible whether or not nol any Irregularities ex ox existed e isted In the ho settlement ot of accounts or orIn orIn orIn In the malting of ot contracts contral pertaining to the states exhibit AsIde from stat stating ing log that list they wore were well veIt wel received during their stay Ilay there th the committee had very vcr little to say 81 preferring no doubt to 10 divulge whatever Information they hail had In tn the lie regular course ot of examina examination Ion tion TIlE THE THE FRANCIS EPISODE Concerning the episode e with President Francis the tho gentlemen stated d that they met mel hum him by accident while In con conversation with wih President lre of ot the Third National bank hank Introductions followed but when whon Mr learn learned ed Il who hit hIs newly made acquaintances acquaintance we ero Il he turned lur t on his lila heel amid d left the tho bank like ft a 1 shot hot hoti i out of ot a I gun Mr Ir lullU was wasI I somewhat Iun embarrassed with wih tho thoI he strange conduct of President FrancIs Francl 1 I and apologized apolo to the gentlemen from Utah for tor or the manner In iii which lucy had hal been heel received The committee in intended Intended tended to 10 make makl an nn naIl 01 on Mv Me Pr but bitt lut this Ihl Incident Wil enough and and th the proposed visit was called off of F ON TILE THE TlE STAND The hearing was r this muri mum mor morIng Ing lug with wih L I W a n member of at atI the Utah worlds fair on I the stand He lie Je wax sits IH shown hown a I large num nuni har of ot vouchers signed by hy himself for COr Hums sumna varying from Crol 25 to 10 00 unit n kOI whether or not ho lie lind hod taken re no receipts roo for tor these there sums minnie Mr replied that In most cases ReN no receipts had 1111 been bel taken Inken although In some somo In Instances stances receipts been given glen him although It wan vas wa not n a practise of ot tho ho commission to 10 require them Mr Ir stated that during luring his hla term of ot once as ns a fl member of o the tho com coin commission cor mission l ho lie humid had received the sum of for expenses Incurred at It one ono time lime amid 75 5 at nt mi another Part of nf thle this It ap appears pears had been licen charged up UI to in the tote twice ns mui vouchers covering tho the same annie amounts were shown tho thu witness wines dur dun during durIng ing hag time the SENATOR JOHNSON State Senator Willis Johnson was uns re me recalled reo called and gave similar testimony with wIth reference to tim the matter mater of nf o receipts He said the commission lon did not make a 1 practise o of ot requiring receipts and ad admitted on close dOle examination hat this lila nc was rather 1 a lax la way wa of ot doing buiel bus leu lIPS Asked by hy Mr 11 Joseph to tl read tM an tn In Interview published In the News th the witness winess refused to 10 do clo so 1 mind and stated to 10 the time committee that hn hi h did not nt con eider lder himself under Any Rny obligations obligation whatever to 10 I deal with newspaper He lie Je would answer oj ny any y questions asked him concerning the of af fairs of ot the lie commission but ho refused to newspaper Interviews MR Mi M 8 Tim Tho lh hearing h opened with I L L 1 W a ii n member of at tho thA its commission on In I the stand stahl Before proceeding with time tho testimony 1 Atty Aty stated to 10 tho the committee that hunt during 1 thu ho recess the Iho had lund ben been busy buI on mm 01 the tho books end that thal while hlo they lucy lied had hr found the Iho totals correct the manner oC or keep lug lag time the records r vai very VIi unsatisfactory tory In timid Hint tIme tho accounts vera not explicit to 10 permit of ct n a analysis of ot time the Incurred TOOK FEW Mr r wa Wil was first shown holn vouch voucher er ci No ro t I II for 96 and amid asked ked whether he lie hid hail received any nn receipts from om tho the persona to 10 whom ho had hati paid p ld tho mooney money Time Tim witness said aMId Id ho Ito hC limed had not nor non lIed had lie h received any uny except In rare me Instant Instances In ln R such nn nM In hIm II cos casee en of ot hotel expenses to ti tl Th Thee These B receipts however hud luct i 1 u U heln been on I II with wih tho the V sieved though that he could furni rn r ru to 10 the committee If they thoy desired va H a them thor The wit wi new nes wn WI was hid i to turn lur over oven nil all ni such Juch receipts rt to iI committee Voucher 25 for or 1 was wa shown tho lie witness mund the lie finest lu Ion naked asked Whether er or ho lie had received for the tho money spent shoot None had hr hem been received SImIlar action W taken with refer reCer reference emily ence to 10 vouchers 74 7 for tr be 15 for IH 15 for tor 90 not signed ITS 17 for n 1 for or JIB 15 to meet per personal er ill 1 for far 7 its 23 28 for tor 7 75 20 for 23 m for 1895 BOI for Cor or m for 10 HIS GIl Us for tor UI 25 mid amid 04 for 2 6 J non I Voucher No JU 2 related to at a t the tho Jefferson hotel hotl the iii cost coat ost of ot a ii I room rom for tor one Uy clay helium being belll 7 Mr Mn Shuit luff Ir was wan I questIoned closely r its AI s to this account a and amid Ln that this lila was WRIthe thin the price charged by time the hotel A At Attention was ns called callad to 10 a 1 charge charlo by I b Sen Senator Mar ator 1101 Johnton of C 1050 for three clay lodging nt ILL lt the mine hotel and amid the tho wit wi 1111 if asked l if Ie he lie could explain tIme the dif dlf difference dl ference ferenee in time tho account He 10 stated list Hint he could cOld although ho he believed bleull ho he and amid aie Mr that Ihn Johnson time tinie shared h red tha this tame same Ile room rom at itt I TO fO fe PAY PAT PA A A NOTE XOE HI h cr Hr l 3 a i payment ij t ti i i p i u ti ic to I 0 lh ti Third I Ii ltd Nut ii i I bunk beak for rr 75 5 6 The he witness stated that bat he ho had bud borrowed Uila I I 1 I J o f 1 to meet m et personal ln find that It t wag wn Inter 11 by h Mr At A As In other oia ho took no liD for toi forthe or ortho tho the money HOW BOW IT Tho witness wItIe was concern c Inn ng the tho money ho he revived to his 1111 Ii own expanses X and AI It h hS stat stated ed t d that ho hiu hUll been Jim sum tin of ot nt Lit one time tInt Th nt another Tho rho payment of or 6 Was Q up U on z two vouchers although Mr hM no n means of ot knowing why Vh this Mil Iwen done don Did Old you tou ko keep keI u 1111 ny record record of or vouchers vOU hor that you yot approved In the absence of ot loep Wells Wolla was the tha wit wl s1 I ItH Vo iQ o not that 1 I V of or he h ans ana answered i iI I 1 cull cilli your attention to voucher No To tit ItS 15 I 1 notice that on Oil Fob Iret oh 20 to 21 I Iou you ou ott wore were nt itt a U St SI I Loule ula hotel nt it which you OU paid II 5 p per r day 1181 a total of or 16 3 II Is that correct orl You Y sir 1 I wi WAil vIII s five days dais dl it At t the tho hb ho hotel tel tol Ihl 3 sir I I r or the days you OU were ware at nL Ihl hataJ you ou iL u charge of Id cI tor for a n V per par from fon fromi i Chicago to t OKd n HP lip Oo do lO you yot no count for or this tutu The rue rh that the data must bo O cl fi c the haro tharo woe was nil right ah he a I l tho limo I State B Johnson was wall the tha next witness lie He was shown voucher No 1 I for f r WJ faU and ahil asked r or o not nol It Woe was correct Yec Yf sIre sir replied tho the W Il o Did you toko any rO I No NC sir Mr It WM siRe not th practise of at atthe the th to take Where were y I U When you yo U received 17 1 the money mentioned J In n voucher No In St SI t Louis Louhi Lou II H IL I woe was WI s lInt nt down to 10 tome me fl meI P I 1 hand you voucher No 12 a for tar UI fI Including one Item of ot for tor oar car r furo to III St lull nd return Is IA JI that corro correU i iVon Yes Von 08 sir eh Jr Did PM Jc you 01 tak 5 any nn nfl for rot thIs thin amount 1 No NI sir The rhe WON hown n a f chargo of similar 2 of t iO 00 0 Wr for stage to and A ni 1 Mk ket d whether er r ho was wae nl on or or the tha it 11 tie u towards Marys a avila vila on that date dete dail Ho Ito 01 explained thin thIH seeming 11 conflIct by hy stating 10 that thul the was wan WUI not It Indo out nut nt at the prop r time This ThIB method of or accounts account s seemu ms to havo been K it 1 system of ot vouchers train from one lne members to another was WI aM It U not f Yen YAI dr lr Why did you yo 01 do tb Unit that wag vae Wil asked Hj I 1 could coull c not nol My tey 11 You arc OJO a 1 oro you not hot Yes Yen Yel Mr lr How tong long you boon been In II t busl tinI About alx lx or n evon You Yon that this thiA la In not n a 1 stood y tom do 10 h you 01 not You YOI air lr I 1 do ito now nw no although It H occur to mo inc nt at lt the Iho time 10 You remember when you 01 sot got ot freo tret transportation on tho tim Hlo 10 Iii Wf 1 I l have hito luch uch now hut have havo thon thou Did you ou ever evor Ot pay tI out ot any 11 mono money loll VII UK aH I far tal Or oust east Olst 1 11 ni H tho tilt Missouri thor Ihor Ye Yee Yel sir cir the tho first trip At this thie point In lit II the proceeding Mr Mm Joseph the Iho ho witness ss a n clipping from train tho NowR am him to tn U read It I This ho ito positively to do 10 to 10 tho the that ho howin win 1 perfectly willing to answer any pertaining to the th of at atthe the tue but ho he rn did dRI clel not no propose to 10 discuss Mr r JOdrph JO Mr r John l a ato 8 i to Ia tho the voracity veracity ot or it a I n w inter View published hed In n the tim Ih De or ret t Now In iii II which ho 1 as I mayIng that or the tha were Vuro not entitled to tho the credit of ot up U Utho tho from fro 1 John Joll Q Cnn non 11 Mr wanted the tho credit credi anti lie be wont went In titter exact even try tr lug hI to make mako the an 1114 11 to the date tho the convened le lb protested eying ho he being belI a U tOI to the he Investigation Ion tion Upon being ordered to h ii hI l 0 the Iho date n II ne host heHL he could coull remont her bet U It I The ho Interview ho lie said laid wati WIH correct except as aB S to t one which wu woe not nl In hie his wOlde word lip ito attain aguin M tM I that thil prior to t tho open opening ing in of ot the tho and ho Ito thought to 10 tho the opening of at the tho Legislature John Q Cannons attorney had made a Li tender tonder of at tho time money IU you ou take tako It on Oi that late date Jo 1 No Nn tho attorney wanted 1110 iio to ro 10 turn tur certain val chen and ad II tItle tills 1110 I J r ro fused to do duo Later I nit 1111 11 At Attorney t torney unit anil 1111 Im un me to 10 the time money but not to relent the voucher Did you OU put tho the money In tim tha bank the day you ou receive It 7 Wards Not No NII I diLl did not for tOI or several days dayn da otter after afterWards Why Shy dill did di you OU not nol Well Wel I wan WI tr lr n ur r of ot the th lh mitoi 1101 I 1 d kin t happen to I t 1111 H nil a n I chAnnG olin olinto hours haute to cull cell 11 M lit tt the th b hunk bini nU tinting during lulng lilt 10 hAl HAD 1 AI A lAN PAIS The rho WUI va shown hown three vouch vouchers ers ere for tor railroad rareR fared between Snit Salt Luh mid and Ild le for 1010 00 Jk The Ill h that tIit th t vouchers were werl that he h received the tha money hut but did thu dil nut not expend It fur for to I rAre fore HH its iI hi hI luul a n pose pate Ills Ibie 11 total tola eel for tor nIC essar Incidental were much greater however than the fate tUI II emid I he lie felt that the W ius 11 H not n a I robbery of or Queried l n I tie to tn o stag are from Mary le to 10 his hll hi hum hunu ho 1 l said eald that thit while the thE charge to tu tho time was ve Wil wily only 30 he lie IS 5 1 for tor ouch och trip an ai II the charge thO lure anti Ind ho he always 11 rode Ioel In Iii a 1 private buy bul on of the net that the dt ge went vent In the night ami RM ani iYa Wll a n m hard hll to tl travel trel In II Tho rho only other o t tier traveling Hem I I tin I upon Ulon which he was Wl questioned wan IAM wa n a I fare to In the river r which lie he h ox ax he lie had lied Irl 11 1 paid Pi hi anti 1111 a it plopping ear charge which ho ito C was for tor n a roun trip dip to Ht IJUIN lul and return It I amounted o 1011 led to about ISO flo 80 J W v of ot the Na Nu bank ml red 11 a I lut 11 of ur which were w ere re Tho i called wee wan Wil Horn OB of 01 the ell exhibit He lie was vu Wil ticked I Ik I about the th minute details of tiC lt till II and rh of th them m ha he Mil eat 11 l answered What money mOlly from the time of or goods goode Rods did cItI dil you you ou receive 7 Will uel aiRed d dWell Well Wol I have turned over all mr mi mI tin plc ionn connected with wih the fOil to your and I dont remember ex exactly notly noly If I I could Hl look Io ok up UI the I could tell tel you ou One by b one onD ho lie WM we WA shown hown many amity mal I checks on ott tho tue It t Louis bank banit where ha lie h lieLI LI 1 kept his lihi hil funds He ne explained whAt each was inis Wil for or and why almy Ih Of len there was wan ae n a discrepancy be h tween the cheek heck and une the bill hii but hut the 4 turk heck hek 11 smaller than the th bill Wll bil When queried t the Ue Ile explained that he hi had hUll against the bill billand 11 and Ind n it I rebate or a 1 induction which the tha cheek check cherl and I which tho Iho book I would show k t heck No 4 won watt shown him for tor I ind mu he explained owing to the of ot hll hI for fel the ox ex hibit he le was soe to buy bu some ore from rain tilt the 11 commission I und and lild after nards warde II po ed of ot there thore ti tho the Argon Anen tine republic Argen Arlel I lute man matlo a I check k nut out for tor too tw I antI the return check wan Wil sti given I R when hen It Wll found that an tin tn overpay went hail had been hen modo tit th through at lt mat OAI Mr U Rut but bul pt one oti IP h i St t Louis Loula LOlis und and many Inny of or tho the checks check In iii il his stub book hok wire to mn miNion lt which voucher did not net cort c Did you 01 tint It wrong t TIC I mf you 01 to 10 keep tat money with wih your private un ate vate roly No NoI If there th r hail had 1111 been ell no 10 hunk bank I 1 would have hse h kept he the Ile money Inane In II a e mick mickI luck I 1 I 1 kept a strict account of ot nil fil expenditures The hl adjourned at 1 1 until 10 tonight A At that time Mr Ir Ile dimming wl will resume his hl testimony I I 10 n |
