Show i MOSES f T THATCHER b CYE ID L i Detailed Before Senate Elections Committee His Differences With the Church APOSTLES A DUTY EXPLAINED Told bid or of Ills His Entrance Into Politics Politic and alldor Of or Ills Reluctance Because of ot Ills lUs III Ecclesiastical Position 1 I JUDGE POWERS QUITS THE E STAND Spoke of 01 Educational Matters In Utah Commending the lie Schools of the In Highest Terms Special to tho Ito NoL Washington D V I C April SG With the thermometer registering close clone to 10 70 the ladles Jadle of ot Washington who toko o loop Interest In national were vere out In Iii force today loday at lit the Smoot hearing but the earI little to repay their curiosity Judge rowers Powers occupied upward of oC an tour in answering questions put to toMm tom Mm hIm m 1 b FY Atty All Att Van 1111 Cott Colt rv a cross lire Iro Indulged in b 1 Narrows Burro nul nut Hut he lie SAul said absolutely nothing and IntI If It I his Ma answers elj t either w WI It as 88 rather on the Iho tide fide of the thin Church The Tue greatest period c ot of In Utah ho lie testified welo Mrs eaN 9 M O th the 0 pint throe thre j ar r first period pello 1 ho h attrIbuted to the tte efforts of ot the Liberal party Inn the lie list hit to lo general causes which have hae ha 0 pro throughout tho the country Dur Vur During ing lg thu pei loUa Salt Lake Ogdon wonderful strides In a material ami nt educational ways Attempts J Y ere ele e made mado to 10 prove proe by h him Hint Jud eH refund to issue warrants for or orr r and court H tale Uve e declined de delin lInet to servo serve such documents Then Mn en but Judge Powers know 1 of er C no nuch Ho lIe wits was d ul dit ulIs IS it to th the educational developments of o f the state stale and iid particularly with refer reference rOII reference ence lo to the th control of oC educational Institutions but hul without any nn damaging ru vu silt tulla to the ranso of Senator Smoot jit u Ioe Hose of ot tho the examination of Judge was wa tailed t I to tho thio stand and for fot 01 the tho re it I 21 I of ot tho days tays session he went nent OUT his hl political 11 career and 1 liow ho he h came caine to ho deposed from Irom Im hl hi and aiti the causes Mch 1 led 11 1 up to It lie He was WItS not ques questioned at 41 nil all hi as nil to his personal affaire but bat he may ma be put lUt through that lulL or 01 ordil dil on Moses Thatcher will willi t be followed l by b L IJ 1 Abbott of DA county and then thell the hearing rah Vill lOll close cIo here h re In all nil probability i M Owen oll n expects to Ret Hot on Wednesday taY Judge Powers viii lea o tomorrow Car COl Carlisle lisle Me failed to appear today to o lie He has haR attended only II three fC lon In oil nil It ItIs itIs Is II report rori port II l that ho he h a 1 re of but UL what for tOI no ono ona tan un imagine He H has hl never asked u II n nr r has hns ho mado mOllo a n pu to during tho th examination ut of try tny In 11 fact the latter lotter has hall exhibited a II to Ignore tho the former lormer KM rotary of ot tho lie treasury en There was wall no afternoon ces nes Ion arc win ho nono none tomorrow Uy Wy Associated Press Pres II April 23 2 Judge Ju 0 O W V vas WaR on Oil the tho again alln at nt the of o the Investigation be he belor h lore lor thi th crato committee ou on 01 privileges and ni today and Attorney Van on Colt resumed rt crons cro examination Ho lie the tho In iii regard to 10 In educational af a 11 fairs fain Judge Jugo Powers Posers praised the tho th peo Ileo ll lt highly for tor their application to tr trades df professions arts nn the 1 Minim and ntH other othel scientific In vre rc re praised by hy h the witness Iho ho M mat Ihal Mormon schools easily tank rank hi h best Institutions of or learn g In th Ui country In lo 10 the Iho disInclInation of o to 10 inform on JUdge lo 10 Is said that no un lIked I Ia r be CHI or considered an au Informer 0 was mado made to the attitude of or orI o who were In lit nom Wing I tJ g Jl n Roberts a 11 Mor mon mori n fr r Congress Welt Well said Mr Powers vo we 0 thought t v br tl l il lolio to bo o the Iho Moses OO hn ti U ud us U out of or our political tIC dl Ie We w thought he ho would take tako ti from Church domination In III Ii Judge powers commended rth he ot or hp policy of Utah Mid sat Vho tho was maLl r i d tr r re tt hood In lii 11 answer to In toh h hy by s nt r Halley tho ho wit wll e i ald ho hc ui l that In lit hi th schools were wert ere dl t t i for rOl M Instruction h hf 1 1 rs InA found macli to t com coin n 11 I i to lk Ib the h 1 mJ 11 ascertained from rein M 3 knew J L Irant rant who w wa WAi now 10 In iiii International kindergarten l 1 CI I I nn le h e nor Gront Is ls a n groat educator Is IsI IAU I in 1 Inel lInes said the wItness l t He le lI then Detailed a n speech 0 Ilah university mado by hy byh ani mno Ih Itie h i lt at which cl ho contributed l for forDI DI Drant ahI I AccordIng to ta the witness lor or lt ild S IS for or and nn WO 50 ar t f hIs two to Ives an and ald saki that bot A ad sorry Born 1 that the tho law W woul ot him to snore mOro Oro wives wes A Ab Nb b J b K hOB ben been en Issued for fop Grant hut but 1 has R no t been reached D reint lt i ft any nn special wh vIi Mr r Dt left I 1 o naked the theYs ss f Ys I that 1 a warrant for Cor him and ho went vent to 10 l Van an Colt Cott Col asked JudO JUdEo 4 Towers it If It t nl not well wol known that wes was WR going to Germany thy the warrant was Issued isuel Oh yes Cl wa was ras the I do 10 not nt mean that lint ho lie 10 went to Germany on 01 ac te account account count of or tho thu warrant but that he lie loft lort town In the night on that account MOSES MOMES Moses MORes Thatcher was UI then called aIlet to the tho stand He li was an on Apostle at tho the thou limo of or his candidacy for 11 II political and AmI a great deal of testimony has hos bu boel n given In regard to his Ils difference wIth the Church on account of or politics Mr Mc Ir Thatcher said the controversy with tho thia Church was In lSD ISO nn an 1896 1596 and gave an 01 explanation of ot his study stull of or politics before ho M became active In tiny any cam cain campaign palen He also of or his duties dutes a aan IU aan an nn Apostle postle of ot the Church Thatcher poste minimized his troubles with the Church and said he always recognized rho the power of o a n majority The rhe first tr l friction according to 10 his story star fol fal followed fallowed 01 lowed n it speech which he lie mode made In II In which he criticized the and ond a letter leter was WOK Issued by Joseph P Smith and John Henry onn Smith protest protestIng lag Ing Ilg against his hil remarks Mr 11 Thatcher read rend from Irom letters nail and nHI speeches which appear opp ar In pamphlets other records record Among tho the speeches was WR one at Salt Halt Lake In 1891 In II which Thatcher declined ed 11 to take lako part port In polities politIcs on Oi account of his ecclesiastical position hut but In Iii II which he lie counseled the Democrats to Instruct the tho people so they the would be he understood In their position In favor laor of ot divorcing tho tIm state and nl tho the Church In political affairs ora IrR The committee adjourned until 1030 n o m ml tomorrow when Mr Ir Thatcher will nih 1 continue his story I SATURDAY TI S Tho Tue nf or Judge Powers lovers began begon at lt the afternoon session Re llon Saturday HI or Questions by Mr Ir Van Yon Cott Colt brought out statements from the tho wit witness wi ness that ho he believed tho the Mormon Mornion Church would eventually assume a po position similar to 10 that of ot other oIlier churches With Wih Ith honest upright and ond leaders he lie thought the people would bu be honest and He lie lu deplored however that I the people wore were disposed to 10 obey Giley the lenders leuters of or the Church whether Much such leaders leader were good or 01 had bad Judge Powers admitted that Mr Smoot hind had been heel prominent In working for or Republicanism before politics ol t CI In Utah Ilah divided on parly lines It I was WI brought out that Judge Julge JUle Powers was l os chairman of the committee which nom now nominated hinted H Ii I and Moses Iosel Thatcher both bOlh of whom hol were lele cre Mar Mor Mormons IO mons mOis The II witness sold foll the tho nominations were vere the result of the ability of both mien men and their courage In out against the political tule Iule tub or of the Church The Tue witness said he hall had not been l en on the clump for lor and awl defended him Continuing ho he said to Mr Tr Ir Van Yan Colt Cott CottI 01 I do not think I r was any an more moro cut cul culpable pablo pable paile than you 01 were ore who I under went on 01 the stump anti and support supported ed ell the ticket without mentioning Mr dr Ir by hy mime manic Ille IlleThe The opposing candidate was WOR another Mormon but not a n Judge Powers sold salil however that the distinction sas wn without a difference as ns connived at aided and ant abetted polygamy Tho The was eon con concluded eln eluded but lint till the thi witness winess was sas VIB requested to remain In lie tho city el until Monday to which time th adjourned |