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Show W$lml u KNSl Also in this section: Obituaries B2 Opinions B4 Sports R7-B- 8 re-ca- st Your incomparable genius reaches heaven, your penetration the depths of the ocean ... you who giveth birth to man ... 0 sun that shineth in a million hearts." in The totalitarian project Revolutionary France, in Soviet has Russia, in Nazi Germany been to pound human society into dust, and then to take the Will I Grigg J- - FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT dust and create from it a "New Man." The continuing revolt against Marxism is evidence that man is not as malleable as social engineers had hoped and pessimists had feared. It is possible that the Soviet regime is attempting to religion now just as it did during WWII. But Stalin's tactical toleration of religion did not extend to the of atheism as the official state religion. Last week's declaration of religious freedom will bring Russia boldly into the 18th century just in time for the co-o- pt 21st. While the significance of last week's developments for Mormon Utahns is obvious, there is ample significance for all Utahns. Utah is the site of an important skirmish in a continuing culture war in America. Utah County residents are wearily familiar with the graduation prayer controversy. Salt Lake and Duchesne counties have been presented with demands to halt the practice of using churches as voting sites. In St. George and Logan legal battles have raged over the use of public funds to light LDS temples. The Logan temple has been removed from that city's official seal. In Idaho, the ACLU is preparing a lawsuit similar to the one here in Utah. In Texas the the Society of Separationists same group that presented demands to Salt Lake and Duis laboring to chesne counties stop the practice of voting in churches. In July, the editorial page of the Philadelphia Inquirer branded the Catholic Church an Institution because its values "Are sharply at odds with those ... of American secular society." History's most vigorously secular society has the wisdom of the course America appears determined to pursue. now, Orton again attle head-to-hea- d By PATRICK CHRISTIAN Herald Staff Writer Democratic congressional aspirant Bill Orton came under fire Thursday for losing sight of political issues amid his ardor to criticize his opponent for ducking issues. Orton and Republican Karl Snow, both competing for retiring Howard Nielson's 3rd Congressional seat, spoke on Thursday at a Rotary Club luncheon in Provo. Orton took several minutes to one Rotarian claimed 17 complain that Snow would appear with him at "joint appearances," but seldom would debate issues to the core. Part of his complaint is that even the debates that are scheduled are too short to get to the substance of issues critical to voters. "What is lacking is the opportunity to get into the issues in depth and to challenge one another," said Orton. At one point, after Snow had said he called for a reduction of taxes but did not materially state how he would do it, Orton said, "Let's debate tax reform in detail." One apparently frustrated Rotarian blurted out, "Do it." But Orton said he didn't have time and was only pointing out that there is a critical need for more and deeper debate of political issues. "It seems my opponent is having trouble getting a forum," said Snow. Snow said he had more forums than could be managed. But Snow said nevertheless he had found time to appear 16 times with Orton before the Nov. 6 general election. "Eleven of these are debates not of the two-hovariety ... (but) I'm certainly not going to let Mr. Orton set my agenda." Orton criticized Snow for not being sufficiently specific about his stand on wilderness. The Democrat said Snow saying wilderness must be stopped is unrealistic because a position would take any member of congress out of the political power loop in Washington. In earlier de Pnclay bates, he said it would brand a congressman a radical and render them ineffectual. Orton didn't say how much wilderness acreage he supports. But said he would take the wilderness debate to Utah's rural areas. Repeatedly, Snow said he didn't have all the answers to every political issue. He said if elected to congress, he would go to Washington with his experience from the Utah legislature and listen to all sides of an issue and then decide. Snow said he didn't believe 3rd District voters wanted candidates to have all the anwers now without listening and then deciding when all the facts are in. On wilderness, he said he clearly opposed Democrat Wayne Owen's proposed bill that would place 5 million acres into a restrictive wilderness designation. But he didn't say how many Utah acres he supports for wilderness designation. Snow called the Gramm-Rudma- n budget law a failure at balancing the federal budget. He also complained that the present budget-balancin- g plan would add $132 Million in new taxes on items such as tobacco, alcohol and gasoline. Snow said the only real budget cuts were to defense and agricultural supports. He said the current plan comes from a Democrat controlled congress. He repeated his statement blaming the Democrat controlled congress, throughout the debate. Orton played down his tie to a minority political party of the 3rd Congressional District, saying "I'm not much of a partisan." Snow said he supports a balanced budget amendment and a line-iteveto to help balance the budget. Orton said the entire federal budget-settin- g process must be changed. He said a two year or even longer budget cycle must be adopted, and federal spending must be realigned. Both candidates said they opposed mandatory regulations that affect small business owners. m . Oct. s. moo L0C9L Delicious symbolism in 'Leningrad branch' Beyond the sheltering barrier of the Wasatch Mountains there are developments of immediate relevance to Utahns. Last week in the Soviet Union there were two developments of epochal significance to Mormon Utahns, as well as Utah residents in general: The Soviet Legislature enacted legislation to end official persecution of religion in the Soviet Union, and the Soviet Council on Religious Affairs recognized the Leningrad branch of the LDS Church. There is delicious symbolism in the name "Leningrad branch." Prior to the calamity of 1917, Leningrad was St. Petersburg named not for Peter the Great, but for the Apostle Peter. The city's name was changed as part of the cultural auto-da-f- e that ensued as atheism was enshrined as the Soviet state religion. G.K. Chesterton warned that when a man stops believing in God the danger is not that he will believe in anything. Despots need subjects who can suspend disbelief. The state is a profoundly jealous god, and moddetermined to ern Caesars mankind in their likehave demanded not only ness the taxes of their subjects, but their souls as well. In his poem "The Rock," T.S. Eliot described the dogma of modern secularism: "Men have left God for other gods, they say, but for no God; and this has never happened before ... that men both deny gods and such gods as worship gods" reason, money, power, race, and history. Each of these 'gods' has spawned a modern dogma. In Russia, official atheism spawned the cult of personality. Lenin has been an object of veneration for over six decades; in some cases Soviet schoolchildren have been taught to pray to Lenin. In 1936, Pravda published a hymn of praise to Stalin: "0 Stalin, you plan the birth of the day; the stars of the morning obey thy wish. a AIU ill Utah County candidates express views By JOSEPHINE ZIMMERMAN Herald Staff Writer Candidates for Utah County offices expressed their views Thursday at a meeting of the Women's Legislative Council at the Women's Cultural Center in Provo. Cheri Murray, confidential secretary to incumbent County Commissioner Malcolm Beck, represented him at the meeting, relating his experience as mayor of American Fork for 13 years and councilman for seven before his election to the County Commission. She said Beck has worked with many county issues, including his work on the Homeless Task Force, Mountainland Association of Governments, Council of Governments, economic development and Senior Companion Program. Site said he played a key role in turning Mental Health around after the financial scandal. "He cares about the people of Utah County, and the employees of the county," she said. Wayne Hill, independent candidate for the seat now held by Beck, said he has had more years of experience than Beck, counting 20 years of hard knocks in the business world. He said there is a need to return accountability to county government, because "it's not there." He noted that Beck voted to do away with prayer at the commission meetings, and he would see that prayer is restored. "You don't have to go far to find that there are cover-up- s and things are tainted on our doorstep," he said. He emphasized that the Independent Party has taken a stand on removing the tax on food, and that is why he is an independent. He warned of the dangers of the sytem, saying it totally destroys people's ability to know what is going on in government. Marie VanWagenen, Democratic candidate for County Commission "B" said many unwise decisions have been made in the past few Tim-panog- one-par- ty 'You don't have to go far to find that there and things are tainted on our Wayne Kill, candidate for Utah County commissioner are cover-up- s doorstep on the county level. She said she favors budgetary controls, all meetings open to the public, control of air and water polllution, and protecting water rights in the Central Utah Project. "We need to rehabilitate people rather than sending them to prison. Lack of jobs is a prime reason for crime, and we need to create more jobs," she said. She noted she worked for the county 26 years, of which 12 were in the county commission office, and is well acquainted with county business. Richard Johnson, candidate for the Commission "B" office, said he is a resident of the unincorporated area (Benjamin) and sees a need to represent people in those areas. He reflected on his three terms as a member of the Nebo School Board, where he dealt with a budget twice the size of the county's budget. He said the county commisson needs to take the leadership in bringing economic development to the county, and should take the initiative on clean air and clean water issues. Gary Herbert, candidate for the two-yecommission seat left with the resignation of Brent Morris, said his background is in real estate and he knows what it is like to balance budgets and make payroll. He said he has been involved in lobbying in Washington for public property rights. His goal, he said, was to bring stability to county government, and he believes he has been successful in that. "It's no secret there has been some turmoil," he said. He said he believes we can have clean water, clean air and economic development, and noted he has had six months training on the county commission job because of his appointment to the office. George Tripp, Democratic candidate for the two-yeposition, has served two terms as mayor of Lehi, winning his second term by a three-to-on- e vote. He noted that Utah County is facing a major project in building a new jail or expanding the present jail. "They need someone who has experience in the building field, and I have that experience. Most of the architectural and building contracts have gone to people out of state, and I want to make sure they remain here," he said. Hitting at candidates who promise to balance the budget, he declared, "the state law says we have to balance our budgets; we have no choice." Louise Fucile, Democratic candidate for county recorder, said she is a veteran of the U.S. Navy and read a letter of endorsement for her knowledge of office procedures. She said the prime responsibility for elective office is to take the oath of office and obey the constitution. She said she opposes the use of HUD funds to improve private estates and the use of public money . golf for curses. She wants to see public funds used for the homeless and veterans. Nina Reid, incumbent recorder, said her job is managing the land years ar ar semi-priva- te records of the county. "I have built the best data base and best land records system in the nation," she declared. She said., a recorder needs to know the basis of mathematics, surveying, the state coordinate system, and boundaries. "We are mapping 90,000 graphics parcels of land in Utah County, and those maps must be accurate. You ought to be disturbed if you don't keep good people in these highly techni- cal offices," she said. Kay Bryson, candidate for county attorney, said he is running for office "because I believe if you want the job done right, you do it yourself." He said he has been a justice of the peace, a judge in the Payson City Court, an attorney in private practice, and a deputy county attorney. He said he wants to restore the county attorney's ability to prosecute white collar crimes. "I have a record of honesty, integrity and leadership. I am proud to tell you I have the support of a majority of attorneys peace officers in the county. proud of that." I and am Currently he is in charge of all criminal and misdemeanor prosecutions in Provo City, and he said he has handled hundreds of prosecutions, including drug cases and the increasing number of sexual abuse cases. Robert Collins, his Democratic opponent, challenged his claim of support from the legal and police areas. He said he has 10 years of experience as a police officer. He challenged listeners to investigate the number of cases that have been dismissed against drug dealers in the county, and also against sex abusers. Other candidates who are running without opposition were introduced at the close of the meeting. Chamber looks at relocation By CHRISTI C. EVANS t muam Herald Staff Writer The ProvoOrem Chamber of Commerce is considering relocating in the old county building in Provo, possibly to become part of a collection of development and travel agencies at that location. " "HZ? 1 "Our board of directors has voted to take a very serious look at moving to the county building," said Steve Densley, chamber president. Currently, the chamber is located at 777 S. State, Orem, next to the SCERA theater. Densley said the SCERA organization is considering building a cultural arts center on the property where the chamber building now sits. "They're not forcing us out. No pressure is being put on us by the SCERA organization," Densley said. However, the chamber has been looking at relocation possibilities. y r ;J iw ,JL . . .v i W r-- 7 A parcel of property just west of PlumTree Shopping Center has been considered, but the details of that plan are not working out as fast as the chamber had hoped, Densley said. Another site south of Utah Valley Community College has also been looked at, but some businesspeople considered it too far away from the main stream, Densley said. Sid Sandberg, Utah County Commissioner, said the county "is also encouraging the Utah County Travel Council and Utah Valley Economic Development Association to locate in the County Building. Densley said he didn't expect any negative reaction if the chamber moved from Orem to Provo. "We've been out here in Orem for the last six years," he said. "I think everybody realizes this is one big business community." "The whole issue of how the county courthouse will be used has not been reached," Sandberg said. "I hope we can put a package together that will make sense to the chamber." The state's federal representatives have been invited to house their offices in the building, he said. aid ChewyArabia. It took the Junior High School students pack chewim? gum to send to U.S. troops in Saudia Orem collect Herald Photo Andrew Holloway school only six days to of 76,000 pieces gum. Jones addresses business leaders Utah County residents should become informed on current issues to help this country's system of government work, pollster Dan Jones said Thursday. Jones spoke to business leaders as port of the ProvoOrem Cham- ber of Commerce er Meeting at the Holiday Inn in Provo. Jones said generally Utah County citizens are well informed, adding for his polls he performs pre-tes- ts in this area. He challenged the county to have the highest voter turnout in November's election. How would a person feel, he asked, telling a citizen of Eastern Europe only 15 system of choosing those who run percent of this country voted for ,for office is fair. Utah is one of only six states which have an open president in 1988? "You, the democracy . . . decides primary system, he said. whether we remove the sales tax He cited" the failure of candidate on food," Jones said. While this Steve Densley to be nominated for may not affect Brigham Young the third congr3ssional district race and the win of Genevieve University, it will hurt higher education such as Utah Valley ComAtwood over favored Dan Marriott in the primary election. munity College, he said. "UVCC has an excellent name "Let's look at our nomination and that type of education is going is it fair?" he said. system to be the education of the future," "Should one party decide who the he said. other party's nominee should be?" Polls have shown support for the Jones also asked citizens to consales tax initiative has gone down sider consolidating Provo and about 12 percent, Jones said. Orem. "It will really take an eduJones encouraged citizens to concation job before that will come sider whether the open primary about." Jenkins: For CUP funds, lake must have bird refuge By JOSEPHINE ZIMMERMAN Herald Staff Writer Utah Lake must have a bird refuge if the Central Utah Project funding bill is to go through, Provo Mayor Joseph Jenkins told a Council of Governments meeting Thursday night. Jenkins said he and other government officials had negotiated several days with environmental groups and state officials before reaching an agreement on what would be in the CUP bill. The agreement signed Tuesday was with state officials and the Utah Wildlife Leadership Coaliton. Jenkins said there was no negoti ating on Goshen Bay and Benjamin Slough; "those were already set and they wouldn't negotiate on them." Jenkins said the agreement specified there would be no interference with farmers' spraying or fertilizing thtir fields, and the land would be purchased only from willing sellers. Elton Taylor, Genola, said he and other farmers in the area had no argument with those provisions, but they fear the government will come back in a few years and change the rules. Santaquin Mayor Lynn Crook declared that there are hundreds of acres of prime orchard land in the Goshen area, and if they impose the spraying ban the EPA has adjacent to other bird refuges, it will put the growers out of business. Jenkins pointed out, "The wanted all of Provo Bay, but we couldn't let that happen. It would hive killed our airport and our industrial development," he said. "We all agreed that it would remain as it is on tne south side. It won't be a bird refuge, but it will be left in a state conducive to le birds." The final agreement, he said, was that it would follow Compromise Level and go along the shoreline from the east part of Provo Bay to where the Spanish Fork River comes into the lake. It would go from the shoreline 2,000 feet out into the lake, but would not involve the shore. He said the agreement will allow for expansion of the Provo Airport and for any recreational improvements. "We had to agree there would be no commercial or industrial improvements along the shoreline," he said. |