| Show pI MAY BE SETTLED k ON Council Committees Wrestled With Conduit Problem Last Night 3 WANT FOR EXTRAS I Ss flu t I R I Ij iO j o il It h wl Mj Kris r Defended I C The To proposition of Ut tho pro ad tilt administration ministration to spend the tw Additional II III of ot O o the His Big for or extras considered for tOI about thit last night by hy tho th he council committees on tin engineering art and a rge and cInI nt sit the thu end of ut that it d to hold hod another meeting this tbs afternoon nt ut 3 3 for tor or the fur tur further ther consideration of ot tho thu matter On Oil Monday night City r Y recommended to the council thu ot of 1719 for tor tho thu conduit for fur covering tho the conduit Ita tt entire distance with dirt n for tor Increasing ln the thickness of ot the tho walls from six e to eight Inches US NOT NOl IN I UV OF IJ IT A J V 1 who shO was wai insulting engineer on the thC conduit dur during ing the last Ire pres present ent mt nt nt at tha thu th committee meeting last hll night gave A very ery exhaustive talk In III re to the tho Ih matter which h he Mitt Mid that In his hili Judgment tbt only ex cx recommended by which would bo bc warranted at ut all wan covering the tho conduit with earth evon Unit that miGht bo ho considered too to expensive especially where the 10 conduit roee ravines on trestles JI JS Y WANTS TIlE THE MOSEY City CR Engineer wn the II rill speaker before tho Iho committee lie He told to the member was desired In tho Iho way RY of betterments for the conduit 1 that n test lest had hael been belli made of ot ott 2700 t OO feet feeL of ot tho ho conduit which Is 10 com completed nail that th t It Illen leaked and th thIo loss Io of water on that account would woul to gallons per cr day till He lie paid ald that tho thu leakage could CHuM be lie remedied liv hv the thi h Inside IlI of ot the tho conduit and that It would bo ho nry to cover It II with dirt In order to protect It II from tho weather wather arid and thus have better water rater As ILS to making the alls thicker he ar or that that wite Willi necessary In order ordet that they IhlY might withstand nil all pres pressure pressure sure from within without Mr stated that Mr AIr Ir Moron Moran the con doing even a u better Job joh than thanHie the Hie end his contract called for tor torI I j Wel Weh Wells staled that the of ot Engineer I Kelsey J I were h a sever eVer arraignment of ot thi rM who tIo male made out ont the tho plans pIan for tho the thet f 1 t conduit and approved nil all iff the sp cl locations for tor the some slime Mr Ir Doremus ii was all then Illen asked to give his Ih opinion as nM asto neto II to the tho necessity of the Iho extras extra proposed Vy by y th tM city 1 lIy engineer I I QUESTION OP O LOCATION ocio I Ho Ito el that he lie had not hot fixed the tho 1 location ot of the conduit at ot nit nil but that ho lie had agreed with tho the other engineers n as 1111 to the Iho general principles upon which It U should be bl located In III his hll hi Judgment the tM conduit should hUH have been located d entirely In III the Hide of the mountain In iii iiiI I of ot being belll partly exposed expo ed He concurred with Mr Kelsey Kelse In regard ta taI t tI I I covering tho the conduit with dirt al nl although though there theio were some une portions of ot It ItI I which would woul be practically I impossible i I to cover and nad ut at any rote rate It would ho lie liet I t decidedly expensive lve Although he hI hail had borne the thC title tithe of ot consulting engineer lio ho stated that thai ho lie hail had nothing more than an tin IA engineer on tho the f construction ot or tim tho conduit Mr Ir did not agree with the thecly cIty cly II engineer In III regard to 10 Increasing Hit Ihl thickness of ot the walls wl lIs and le hi h iu ut that tho lIi caine result would be ob nb at nt much Jem leen le expense by putting nItting In more steel It eel bars where here hereit It was deemed lIet I nr to strengthen thel uj Ilio Iti walla ot of tim the conduit In III regard to matter he mild further Mr Ir to the thickness two Inches leaven us In III Inexactly L exactly the Slime same dilemma us UH when we h I started SIx Inches Is not hot illicit enough In la nil nit places In many manyi i places sIx K Inches would he be ample If Ifs lu wi vi s are to have Iune n II uniform thickness l why v y eight Inches any more than six sla sl 1 Vho IIO Is tr to determine how thick the thc il be lie how low Is It to be bo de uie c It may amy he be that nt nl the should ho be twelve I Inches luches thick You ought to tn have a CI I nuIn on the to 10 de do determine 1 termine that question it ALL LL MAK ll Al Olt ou LESS JoSH Lh ti As M 11 to the hue leakage In the tho he conduit En r declared every I I ever eer constructed leaked more i or ur 1514 and III In his opinion plastering the conduit would not stop the leakage b entirely He lIt railed culled attention to Iii the t I fuel that then U lii n a heavy leakage In ii iiI I the thi t hI water of ot the lie city and stated I I I that the Ito leakage from that Is t r th then n It U would he be from the eon con J lull hut whether plastered or not hot As AH to the leakage ho hu cald i There never liner was a n conduit of ot any hut leak look 41 but properly proportioned and laid hold should hout convey convoy water vater without any considerable low hois lo The Tho ho iI of ot concrete In h I to clone j up un with ute uce It e l Is this thin true 1 It convoys conveys water full hili of ot l anti and silt lit such ns as our nur Utah S water ater The fhe Is hound bound to 10 leak lenic more when whon hen It is Iii new It will ays I l k even If Ir I you plaster the tho in inside Inside inId side Id of It It romao down doi therefore to tn ton toa n It financial us MS to 10 whether you rou want ant to plaster II It My liI t of ot tin the conduit l is III t that 01 a t It hooks lonk only In III spots We Ve e will iy that thUI one toot foot III In ten tell Now It If nine nino fret feet fe t ran rail h he no so 0 laid held that I will not riot lenk leRk to 10 any degree there therl Buy any why the thc Until t lIth foot fool cant 1811 be b laid haul that way IVI It depends d on who ho dues lo the work OPINIONS IO S WITHOUT FACTS I tin Ito to wn vas hy iy 11 Black ck Ir It he ho thought It would be he advisable t to toI I the conduit It If by II so doing the theIL city IL II could s save SILI v of or wi wa tr tar tor por per lay day tIll In r reilly ply to 10 that hunt he elated lell I th thit t would upon whether L l or not hOt would wol he tue the best and alit HI I i Cheapest t way ny to that j I i in 11 his lila It would not He lie nd at the of or the Iho commit t toe taking hasty hatty notion action In iii thu I matter Miler and stated that It should do ujo j I Ii i l more than tush merely get lIet et opinions from sonic some out cue In iii regard regHl to 10 the iii Ih proposed 1 r J I work Opinions without being 1 barked hackett r ny by b facts foots wore vere not worth anything RII in inI I I iH lila estimation He lie Mid that the par t p Joys conduit was a plastered on I tho the Inside yet et It leaked unit he hI thought that a n thorough te tell teat t of the thu th work vork on the 1 conduit should b he be made before definite action Is taken I Hod In one of ot the Inspectors f I employed by the city illy on time the conduit ii made n a few te remarks In which he hI re recommended I commended that the tho conduit be b plas pias plastered l I terell At t the conclusion ot of his hid re 1 lk a marks th the committee decided to 10 hold another r meeting tilts this as It was wan Intimated hy by Contractor Moron Moran lor lI r that work on tho the conduit would be he dosed down unless ft the tue matter mater w determined by Monday night |