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Show Page A10 Thursday, October 29, 1981 The Newspaper Newspaper 0 JUST LISTED These Summit Park Lots Lot 15, Plat - Great buildable sunny lot for only $22,500 Lot 27, Plat H - fronts Crestview Drive and Crestview Terrace with 360 view of mountains $29 900 JL? Multiple Listing Service HOLIDAY VILLAGE CINEMAS 649-6541 3 tsT stopped' Clntrana Releasing. i "TiTJ l74 'I' COLOR IPG c If, HiL'll vl F LI WUNMIMhIB wBL IL tJSti&& Gals! SC DRACULA Fri, Oct. 30th & Sat, Oct. 31st : 11 pm Sat, Oct. 31st & Sun, Nov. 1st: 12:30 pm Tickets on sale now, only $2.00 for all shows October 29 Bob Skanter Jerri Stokes Annie Laurie Hebson Jan Dalton October 30 Barbara Martz Phyllis Rubenstein Johnna Durbin October (CAILIERJ 2W Thursday Joint meeting of Cham ber of Commerce and P.C. Convention and Visitors Bureau; 4 p.m., Ivers Room, Holiday Inn Supper at Senior Citizens Citi-zens Center, S p.m. Park City Council meeting, 5 p.m., Memorial Building Park City Performers present "My Fair Lady," 8 p.m., Egyptian Theatre Rr.M TOR IBirtfeitity tars October 31 Nancy Braddish Clissa Cloud November 1 Kerry Thomas Annette Anderson Friday Girls Volleyball: Park High at Region II tourney at Dugway Utah Jazz vs. Dallas, 7:30 p.m., Salt Palace Park City Performers present "My Fair Lady," 8 p.m., Egyptian Theatre Saturday Silver Kicks vs. KWHO Bob W ' X.- '.''HV - S ' ,-. -V&A J" - ' ' Tl ' V;Ji '' '' " ' ' - jfi I far, r I 'P'X ' fl" ' t- ;f f " i . - : "Cf , ' 1 - '' I f' f ... -rw y One of the things that people most identify you with are these land trade proposals between the school district and Deer Valley, with the city involved in one way or another. I think a lot of people are assuming that you have something to gain from these proposals. Do you? I only stand to benefit by what I think the benefit to everybody in town will be from them. In terms of the specific land trade with Deer Valley, I challenge anybody to find a better way to acquire 170 acres of land adjacent ad-jacent to the City Park that will allow for park expansion, expan-sion, that will protect against again-st some hillside development, develop-ment, and perhaps even give November 2 Bill Bertagnole Elliot Wolfe Kerry Bolton Bridger Neilson Petey Coleman Dede Bledsoe Greg Bart G. Ball at Riverside East, 11:30 a.m. High Rollers vs. Apollo at Riverside East, 1:30 p.m. Happy Halloween! Come to Carl Winters Middle School Carnival; 7 p.m., followed by dance for Middle Schoolers Park City Performers present, "My Fair Lady," 8 p.m., Egyptian Theatre Sunday League of Women Voters interview candidates on M ells: 'Every deal, Bob Wells the city some excess ground that it might sell to create funds for park expansion, in a way that doesn't cost anything. That was the big one. But we did another one that didn't get a lot of publicity that allowed Bonanza Drive to go in, for example. We did an exchange with Greater Park City Company involving in-volving the ground that they own over by their shop building and warehouse, to acquire the right of way there, in exchange for squaring up a portion of property they own where the Monroe site used to be. Again it was beneficial to the city. We got the right of way for a very much-needed new street without any real cost. November 3 Linda Leatham November 4 Robin Locke Jaret Winn KPCW.6p.m. Monday Supper at Senior Citi zen's Center, 5 p.m. Ladies Night at the Racquet Club, 7-9 p.m. Tuesday VOTE! Polls open from 7 a.m. to 8 p.m. Motor vehicles repres entative at Memorial Building, 9 a.m.-noon, 1-4 p.m. Summit County Commission Commis-sion meeting, 10 a.m., Coalville Coal-ville courthouse Men's Night at the Racquet Club, 7-9 p.m. 4 Wednesday Mixed Doubles Nieht at the Racquet Club, 7-9 p.m. it FL II 2) No, I don't have any personal per-sonal benefit other than the benefit to the community. I think that those have been very beneficial to Park City. The exchanges with the school district, the same answer. an-swer. I don't have any personal per-sonal benefit whatsoever out of them. That transaction benefits all of us to the extent that the school district can raise $2 to $4 million from sources that it never contemplated. con-templated. That means that over a period of time, our cost in taxes is going to be $2 to $4 million less. Okay, but in that transaction transac-tion your company was involved. in-volved. My company was only involved in-volved to the extent that we had an agreement with Deer Valley on a site for the HUD ; project in Deer Valley. We were involved in trading that site to the school district. It didn't matter to my company com-pany where (the other site would be). The question was : was the other site a better bet-ter one, and is the benefit to the school district worth it to the community to relocate it out of Deer Valley. In other words, you had the same deal in either location? Yes. It didn't matter one iota. Except we ended up with a smaller site outside of Deer Valley than the site we had in (Deer Valley). Perhaps that is a little bit of a negative effect, but I don't see that as such. I saw the size of the site as offset by the location. Didn't it occur to you when you were thinking about proposing this kind of a land trade that it might look as if Bob Wells had an interest in it? Sure. But I think that a person who never does anything never gets challenged. That's my quote of the week. I realize that in any situation where you're doing anything in the slightest way unusual, you stand to be criticized BY PARK CITY REAL ESTATE O I Bob DiTulllo Tom Oolan Jim Kempthorne Doug Middleton Bryan Oliver Prospector Development Company a winner for you ' because of it. But if you think it's right and you think it's beneficial to the community, you ought to do it. That's what you're elected to do. I think that transaction is for the good of the community. com-munity. If it means that I don't get elected, I think it is to the detrement of the people who voted. I have no question in my mind that I can do a better job in office than anybody else who is running. It has been said by other people on the council that you probably put more time into the job than anybody else. Doesn't that cost you in terms of your own business? I do spend more time working with the city than I do working on my real job. One of the things that is really bothersome about government is the length of time that it takes to get things accomplished. Something that would take four hours in private business to get done can take six months in the public sector. sec-tor. But I do have the ability, I think, to get things done. Also, I have a very good partner who has put up with me and knows I enjoy being on the City Council very much, and that I get a lot of personal fulfillment out of it. My wife works, and I've been able to do that. You can be on the City Council, and not do anything, and probably get re-elected easier. But if you are on it and you do things, certainly you open yourself up to criticism and you make some enemies. But you have to do what you think is right. You have been involved with promoting low-income housing, in one way or another, for quite a while. How active do you think the city could be, or should be involved, in this area? Initially, I felt that the city should only be involved to the extent of helping to create it or forcing the creation of it by ordinances. But the more I've been involved in-volved in it, the more I think that the only truly effective way that we're really going to get lower than normal rents is for the city to be directly involved. I think that one of our present policies of requiring a developer to provide "X" number of units of employee housing without totally tying that down means that you don't get what you want. I think that a far more effective ef-fective way is to say to that developer, or to that person who is annexing, that, "we want money instead of units." We can then use that money, in one way or the other, to develop housing which we can really subsidize. sub-sidize. I think it's far more effective effec-tive to get the money and create that fund and then for the city to be able to be the builder, owner, manager, or it can contract with somebody else in the business. You could contract with somebody like Frank Richards (owner of the Holiday Village Apartmen- Jerry Perrlne Gordon Sloan Michael Sloan Don Sturges Fred Thaller 649-9134 03 is ts) to do the management and control the project, and the city can be the rent sub-sider sub-sider through these funds. What you're talking about is another impact fee, essentially. essen-tially. We already have the requirement. To date we've done it in terms of saying: "Okay, you have to provide this many units." All I'm saying is, let that person have those units as conventional conven-tional (housing), and make a profit on them, and give that profit to us to properly do the reasonably-priced housing. We'll have control over it. We'll know what the rents are. We'll know nobody's ripping anybody else off. The Spiro Tunnel water project, which you helped to arrange, has been criticized for two reasons. One, because the city went ahead and started to physically develop the project without seeing that the rights had been acquired; and two, because the city chose to accept ac-cept a certain sum of money from Royal Street rather than have them develop the project. Now that amount of money is only a fraction of what the whole thing is going to cost. Do you think this has been handled properly? I think we made one mistake, and that mistake was in timing. The original agreement with Royal Street was that they would pay for the development of the Spiro Tunnel to the extent necessary to bring out the quantity of water that they were conveying to the city. Which was how much? It was 20 percent of the flow. And the city said, "if we are going to do that project, we ought to do it is such a manner that we can bring out much larger, quan- -tities "Off waters" And that meant a larger line size, and more excavation into the tunnel sides. So that made the substantially more expensive. ex-pensive. The biggest difference, however, was labor cost. With hindsight, the city should have gone ahead and done the job two years ago, as opposed to this year. The labor costs have gone from about $7 an hour to about $21 an hour. Starting the project before the water rights were tied down was not a mistake at all. We know that we are going to have a certain portion por-tion of the Spiro Tunnel water, the portion that Royal Street is conveying, at no further cost to the city. Secondly, one of the reasons that we instituted the water development fee this summer was to create a fund to acquire more of that water. And we can acquire the water in one of three ways. One is a negotiated purchase, another is by condemnation, con-demnation, and thirdly is, over a period of time, through exchanges with Salt Lake City. And this fund will allow us to do that. The thing we have to stay on top of is that our rate structure is right. We will be closed October 31 st until November 15th. We will Condemnation seems to be your ace in the hole. On the Spiro Tunnel, it certainly cer-tainly has been. Bruce Decker, director of the Snyderville Basin Sewer District, is promoting water conservation devices like low-volume toilets and shower heads which restrict water flow. And he is suggesting that the city should adopt that kind of a program. I agree with that. We're looking at the possibilities of drafting an ordinance to that effect. The big decision, in my mind, is whether you make it an absolute requirement, or whether you do it through an incentive. Probably the proper thing to do, in my opinion, if there is that much efficiency involved, in-volved, is to do it as a requirement. The water we have in town today is cheap water. The water that we have to develop next year is very expensive water. So to the extent that we can save that cheap water, we should to so. From what I've been told, there are a lot of water lines in Park City for which there are no recorded easements. How do you feel the city ought to handle that problem. I think we're about 90 percent per-cent complete in terms of a total remapping of all our city-owned utilities, including in-cluding water lines, location of valves, location of manholes, and the whole works. So we need to complete com-plete that and find where our problems are. The one thing you can do when you have that knowledge is impose relocation as that property develops. Outside of that, it's a question of how much the city wants to undertake, maybe in a negotiating Droeess'with landowners. We have, in a lot 6f taes',vsome unused leverage, because streets are not where they are recorded, and houses are not where they are supposed to be. That's one of the things that, on a case by case basis, we've started to try to solve. We can build these utility problems into that solution. Is there anything that you would like to see happen in the next four years that you haven't gotten to in the last four? All of these things that we have talked about. I'd like to see the completion of them, certainly, as soon as possible, and for us to move more into the physical improvement im-provement of Park City. We got to a point last year where the impact fee accumulation and the planning effort got us to where we were able to start: Park Avenue and Bonanza Drive and the storm drain thing, some of those. We estimate that our impact im-pact fee collections for this fiscal year will be three times the budgeted amount, and that we will be able to reoped the budget in January and have probably close to another $1 million to put into public improvements. im-provements. re-open November 16, seven nights a week J a |