| Show PR pROHIBITION AND LIBERTY I Delivered by Elders J M Joseph J Cannon and Buchanan before the Pioneer Slake Conference in th Salt Lake T Tabernacle Sunda Sunday January 24 1909 T J 31 In rI t batore you ou m my brethren ten friend I ant to ea then sI the delre that the Hot Hoty may upon U us and guide ua uaIn In III our so that the th mo cut I Iasi 1 ma may not he be spent pent la III rain aln Th The ablest that I la very el prominent nt at present relent In public thought and dl dia I IS the question whether hether or not notI I uld be Met beat for groat ret and be bed d tate stale of nf our onra to tn b by law lawIt w It 11 Ise Geld neld of buln ent s sInn Inn of oC ever every kind and If I 1 ra tH to 10 a fe few minute I 1 do de dot t fool that en n apology is I needed th On the correct of I thu h question de depend nd a daei 1 It 11 ItIs I Is a question that concern i p our bodies and nd our IOU soul It Is a that c a oer hooks t thee homes I is there are growing up It 0 a qUon of ef Importance to our churches church our werda and nd the dIfferent ItIl loUi It I Is a qu Men fun nt wt I is so III wIde In its III p that l It n Itom our n bl ThesS who take the view that we ht to lave bayO stae wide prohibition ire tiro with a multitude of ob J one Otte of them bi th this that such UI a raw law would be a curtailment of our eur Y elU It Is that It II would be an upon sir en to te trade and ao aleo upon ear OW t this d lion Mould uld net hOt be dismissed without a serious thought tU I la one of the greatest tt girth that od led his baa given eD to man D It Itu ate u moreover mo been dearl dearly bought k It bas come ome down to us UI only attar aner lace dent struggles throughout the ages w We flut not throw away w this pearl peart ot of at that tbt h hu been found for us In rough so 10 man many b by pread But U It true that a law would be a curtailment of er this liberty If It ft I la we would also alIO II have e to eta establish let a 11 M ay opIum lIr deter tot tor the closing of place or of th they en can be called sola aoI also I o a curtailment of tg sr But there Is Ia one kind of liberty Beat hal ha no place under the la laws of the United or under any ny kInd ot of and nd that Is the liberty to tel t lbs body and nd soul lOul of our fl men mea Nobody h has the liberty to I 1 that and If my m buln business is of that lid ud then It I your our dut duty to curtail II any libert to that extent and that U did 1 to lu abrogate my liberty rt It I is m mere mereto to prevent m me from using It wrong wrongfully fully Hy All Aa for our personal liberty I have bolt 11 sometime that tbt perhaps we have ve not 1 Ii a ties appreciation ot of what bt that mean Is I the Christian sense ot of the I 1 shall therefore take time to read a f few vr from the eighth chapter ot of the F First Epistle or of Paul to the Corinthians which kh elear up very satisfactorily to me meat whet at personal perlOna Christian liberty al 1 I leas and does doe not allow says take t heed lest Iet by any n mean mans of yours oun a etu stumbling ing blok binek to them that are weak eak For ForIt It if any n man see thee which but 14 rde alt It at meal In the idols tem tempi I Ih shall h 1 not the conscience of b him I Is weak k be emboldened to oat at tho those things whIch are offered to Ido Idols And thy tny know t Wick toro hr r perish for whom Christ died i Rut flur when ye sin so 10 against the rn n II and wound thelt weak ass ye In arsine Christ Chrit fore If mt meat make m my rather rether to te offend I will willI eat I no nn h while the tha world work lest I make lIa k m brother to offend There the what lib ty Iy means mana IR hIm I do not d des re ret reto t to enter UDOn of the sub Jet 1 et t e 1 will wll only say ea that anti who becomes a Ia lave to any ke any has ball no lib libarty I arty any moue mort lie He I the mot most bed abet t of 1 II I have seen myself men mell I wj who he have been Iteen slaves under this vie vice I J I hv have heard them cry ery r out Il III fOlly agony before heaven to In help them to break blk the chaIn I I hoc hoL rep u them In the midst O of their families askina thu r towel loved on onto ones onesto to forgive rov their thIr shortcomings and yet et tIM the next neat d day go nut and do the same am thing over again In They could not break breakaway Ic Ica a away by reason of the strength trent of the with which they we were bound I Is that liberty No this I ii liberty If I of m my own me free will nd choice ebolee renounce those thOM thIn things which I see bring brine my brother to tn perdItion and touch them nil In order that I may not be a sus or of orren offense to him This nil kInd of the Apostle as hi his pre prerogative IO U Not the liberty to do that which caused hI his brother to perish It If ItI I have hae this liberty then I am free fre In Indeed indeed deed nut But i 1 am not tree It if I must to temptations and nd cannot with tand stend then Then W we lire are told lold that prohibition does not therefore w we do not met want It iL Weil m my friend that an all de depends ponds upon how the tha 1 laws are re main maln tamed fter the they have Hen been enacted It depends on the honesty of those who are placed at the head of oC the of af to b se that the tha I laws are N not de dead letter on en the statute books The ex ea earl rl of the elt city of oC Ian Balli Francisco co wI Ib this When that city wu was destroy destroyed ed by earthquake end nd fire one or of th the lint measure taken by the to brin bring order out of chaos chao was Wall to uloa eva awry saloon aloon In the place Tb They knew that would be necessary The Tho result was that according to some re Ps report ports port order was maintained and crIme was wa reduced In that city etty eighty per percent ct cent They to have tour four courts In San Francisco which en co hl dd hardly clear cler the docket from dy day to tollay today day After the saloons aloon hd had been blen closed there thre was not enough nouh for tor the courts There were some days da when the there were re only two or three thre arrests In lb the whole city although the tho were camping out In tent tente In park and nd In tb the streets treet Other places place have had id a similar experience so 10 that tbt the statement that prohibItion does dati no prohibit t ii not true tru It all depends on bow the law le III It is III true that thal law of Itself does doe not extirpate crl crime It does doe not er eradicate al criminality that is III admit admitted admitted ted nut ut I take teke It that a good temper temperance slice ance law honestly honaU administered would drive away from our public tan f the temptations that have haf been pi there thre and are there at t the pr pres prese e nt t en that our young oun men would not notI I be Invited to these places place sa they the are arenow now The business would be b outlaw outlawed ed and those who must satisfy a d dpra de pra prayed tat taste could not do so tn in open daylight u thy they do now and even ven that J I bell believe en would be worth orth while A great cret deal could be old aid on this question but bu I do not feel eel at liberty to occupy your our tI time any ny longer In conclusion let u all as many all as have havethe the welfare of our city al h heart rt and lId our cities In this wel welfare fare of our homes and ot of th the grow lag Ina U us rise up In our strength and nd with the step a of If God Al AI Almighty mighty tight v vl against Int Ih the curse cune that has hall Ix been upon our communities In the form of the sale eale of You can an remove It you ou or of Utah It If you want to do se 10 seand and nd J I believe the Lord Himself expects us to take w stand tand I this matter and to take the right stand that we m may maydo do so 10 U I my prayer he the th name of Jesus Jeu Amen r J KJ Ly beloved brethren sisters and friends While Brother was speaking to u this afternoon my mr mind went to some verses n the BIble Thew Tb have become familiar to u us all U but I 1 wm read d And Cain talked with Abel 1 I his brother and nd It came to pa pass when U they were wre In the lei field that Gin CaIn ro rose up against Abel hI his brother and slew hm and n the Lord said d unto Cain Where I is thy brother And Aad he be said MId I know not Am I 1 m my brothers keeper Those word ord Am I m my brothers keeper uttered b by the murderer were the word worda ot of a coward who ho was Wall trying to escape the responsibility of hi his crime nut ut they have bave in them a question Uon which ba has to thoughtful men In all U UN ages All As upon the earth what responsibility are we supposed to bear r with respect pt et to our brother Awa Away back I is Abrahams time little I groups of men lOt got together and aad formed kl kingdom In Iona cases It was waa only I IF lit the members nIM of tIM the IF tM the t who failed a lit bi led the head ot of tt that family 11 wIth his and heeda me moved about tout the alienist It ruler ot of thus who 0 were With him hi We Wa remember in III nn one 1 cas In tile the history of Abraham that Ie he with his hla de defeated d a n number bel or of king kIn who lived In the same as a mild Id he himself I If flat flut as tm hies went t by men more calel and Instead of one olle family constituting a kingdom drew together In towns and the form torm lion or of leagues amid nd the Influences ot of trade brought th these towns together under un der r a common ruler From that time to this t there h has been an extension of the unifying or of orthe the individual its 18 of society Int into larger till at th the present time tim we of this great areat country to 80 million of ofU ofus U us acknowledge one and look kook to one ft flag u ma bring th the emblem fir at atour our freedom and nd our national life lite We a have things In common which were not known knowli In days daya of old an and In th this d day when a calamity occurs u oc occurred occurred recently the Ihl terrIble and nd sor sorrowful disaster down In Ital Italy and nd Sicily 1011 hearts heart of all the people of the earth p go out to tb the au sufferers and nd they reach reh out hind hands of help belp and d com comfort fort Cort and nd sustenance to who are re reIn In Now the Idea of IM Onal for th those who form a pert of the am community and nd society h hIso has also Iso especially In resit years undergone un undone done It seems me to me a consider considerable able change This Idea of oC personal lib liberty erty that our brother hall hs spoken to toua tous us ua bout about bat bas been wallowed swallowed up In Inthe inthe the view w that we are no our brothers brother keeper In the extreme view of It that we se re In a sense our brothers brother keeper It Is necessary for us a at t times If we have liberties to put them aside Id We consent cont to do It to In order that the good ot of the whole ma may be beet served and aad that la is the principle of our govern government ment When the these drew er the they all surrendered certain liberties which they possessed as common commonwealth wealth gave them to the federal gov government emment tn in order that there might be unity and ncI a centralised rail govern government ment They gave over tta these e liberties for the good and the besot beat or of tM the whole And now this great which I II before u us at the prele present t time Ume It seems ma mato to me that no reasonable person will find fault with Ith any act of government whIch shall be aimed at t suppression u of oC vice which shall ball aim Im at the I and well being belne of all II ad adm m t that the partaking or of alcoholic drinks drink In a very limited private way would never arouse In the nation or In inthe tM the community any feeling fill or resent resentment ment as Ion long aa a the evil ell relates sole solely ly Iy to the person parlOn who ho la is tM the partaker of that drink that poison but when lu Ita influence extends to k family and nd to the community as a whole and nd sorrow I is caused where here economic waste I is created and where It II becomes become the busi bul business II ness of government tl to tall take care can of the crime th the insanity and the evil that result then It seems me to me that thal no rational being wall U A say that It I ii not part of the affairs of government whIch means mean you OU and m me and nd all 11 of ofus us UI together this society or of to take action as a whole hole It teem to me my brethren and d sisters It that there cn can be no more serious rlou question than that which is i before us AI at the present time Bums ume y years ago alO while upon ripon a ml mission lon lonto to Euro Europe put part ot of that time being belo spent pent In England In the elt city of Liverpool Liver pool I began ean thinking of this tha quo tion vet very seriously because m my mind was wall drawn dran to It b by th the evil 11 that I saw about me Old 42 12 as s man many ot of you OU remember situated In Inthe Inthe the worst wont pert part of town that is III the part fir of It had opposite Its ill cor corners 01 ners lIera public houses which dealt out theIr poison to the poor people there day and night and nd the no noise and the culturing and nd Ule evil were so eon con tnt tat naturally our were re led to contemplate the seriousness erto ot of the situation In the winter time Ume though that climate is nut not quite so eo rigorous u ou own yet when the cold s t winds wind blow blowing InK In I Ma have seen n women on nn the street treet there without shoes hoe upon theIr feet without covering for tor th it Ir Irhe he heads doing the hardest kind of In I Ibor bor apparently In the extremity or of poverty and nd not alone women who h had reached the all age or of and matur malur maturIty Ity but even little in this same condition I have bave seen n bo boys around on the street selling papers ppe In the ear y morning wIthout shoes or stockings and wih Ih the Icy ley pavements almost almu t cut cutting tine their feet They were no scarce scarcely tel telI ly I clothed It et all 11 only their outer gar garments r ments menta shielding them from Crom the In Inclement clement weather ather I have seen the theme same me c class or of boys boy at night In dark corners waiting tar Ill people to toIs pea Is In order that the they might be beg a afew tw few pennies to pt get a nights lodging and nd In at a few instances wh where J i could trace down the real 1 cau cause e of this eon enn I found tIN the root ot of this evil w was ba l I have seen child children many or of them do doses a of them gather together un on a aBuy Sunday Buy morning In the same ume kind or of weather waiting for an n hour until lb Ih doors doore mt might be opened tl the would be brought In and nd warmed rm and tit given a bowl or of his bot tea and nd JIt possibly Ibl a swat meat mall many cases aile the most moet substantial thin thing they had bd to eat during urt the whole hol timer th r shivering until those pt O l who ho look k them ln ID actually ban d u I Iru ru rub their limbs and hold them In them arms to keep them from In after fter the they had bd brought them Into the warmth of thou room I h have 11 this condition and nd I w was t told kt by If tho those who were wert doing title this charity that tha t this condition came about In almost ever instance u a 11 direct result or of In many n 00 not alone too the fathers fatha were drunkards drunkard but the mothers he wo comI coming discouraged oura with tb the burden of their Uv and with the cheerless cheerlessness ne ness of It all 11 with the tha grinding pu pov erty erry that 11 was crushing them had ale al alfI fI victims to this the poor pool little father or mu mg they ther to cr care fur for them and al give ve them parental 10 love and affection much I Ithe kw the actual necessaries of life were here hIe being belne stunted physically and aDd morally and spiritually as a the result reull of this |