| Show MAN LIVED BEFORE THIS LIFE I Discourse by ELDER ORSON F WHITNEY I Iri 1 I A At the Conf re n the Salt Lak t ri riA Sunda I April 26 1908 I V V hen tin II U 1 to the tho nutt b Ihler Tunner this also to tim till good that wert LL lie morning Ot or Urn conference Ir I ot oC th tho LorL J I will vilee II fow ow of tho thoI I thou arni hove have through In my mind my j AS TO 10 OPINIONS In the tho first III lice let leI me 1110 n that i r I nm am l zi firm In tho XI rt It may ho 8 1 thAt the place to lip pI for upon tipon Is Im hern tho hO Inor III I lodged antI I Ilm am not a 1 Irn ho lIever In tho that ono mans opInIon k 19 ns a good ns as another Dc Be Before fore We o olin a thIng with any mho of truth Or WO we rt be iura that Ula tho mon tr Oil on the tho amno Th rho mon men be equal booro their opInions eMI ho 10 equal rrue It Is put In way of what God has ham revealed one mans opInion Is ft III oI nm another But oven th thon n It ItI Itus I us Is not ii a Hound proposItion I Even ven wh where ro revelation 19 I silent upon n a sub subI I leet It stand to 10 r that thOM who ore or I ii opInion upon It than who have given Iven It no thought at nil U rt I wonted to learn of oC tho truths ot of t I would go goto got t to nfl for Cor nm R It I wanted to know ot of l I T I would woul consult on nn teet tt It I 1 wIsh ell or regarding financial motters I 1 would canter With Hh a 1 financier And Ami 1 mo 0 It I I desIred go God religion rollon and life I 1 Would fleck cek It from Croni n a prophet or sonic some other InspIred Ir If I could flod l tine One OliO adVice or opinion Is nR an good RS 98 only when hen the tho men are re equal In In Ilon In capacity ont and the Iho ower to group In op to tonn correct the III matters rl Involved 1 i 1 am not hero here today neither are aren mY n brethren to present to the Iho pen peo pic imie ny mere opInion Wo We are hero here hereto to tC tench ch the tho timings that wo we know lenow to preach tim tho g gospel ot f Jesus Christ t as no Ho taught It os as Ills His and ILp taught It anciently and IlS a aMIS MIS modern and havo taught and are noW nW teaching It n It s 9 our it It Is Gods ternat truth that lie Ho spoken the 1 Mt vo claim for thu tho gospel which the th world trills torm Is that tt Is tho old truth como back agaIn TIlE THE LIPE Tl beautiful hymn that has hns just sung embodIes the tho or of the Saints regardIng the Uk temporary present the tho futuro of oC man We believe In th merely merel the tho of oC the tho Son of oC God Clod but tho ot nil all ne and It Is told In the tho hymn that hen boen suns sung In our hearing It Is t that we Yore not the first to teach doctrine It p wag willi laught of nimi hy the Son of Clod and b the tho and thu tho apostles What wo for tor It Is simply a now new 1 presentation II All the ages good mon men mUlti woul woul m In tho of the tho soul havo believed that thaI wo 11 1 we cabin In to this thI lifo life O amid that wo shall live 10 atter thIs AND ANO pm Ihor not always prophets and andt t i who 80 o I 1 havo In III Ini i an English n I Ish poet who hO ad advanced K m Idea of time Iho worth In his ode or of Immortality huts forth Corth the thought In words wards Our birth III I hut II a sleep antI mm II for tor otting Tile Tho I oUI rises with us 1111 OUr lICe lito I Istar star Hath had cl ro Its settIng And from afar Not Nol In entire or yet yel In litter sll hut But clouds or of glory do 11 we como come From God who Is our bohr lint Hut lIl thought lie he to 10 apologize for tor this beautIful and sentiment It awoke I the hI or of certain good pious people eople who ho accused or of endeavor endeavorIng Ing to II a belief Iii In the tho pro lire of mana doctrine 1 upon which revelation Is 13 silent nl al although though there thero hi nothing against It In writ J I s felt sOrry that the tho great groat Poet d nied It necessary sary to bow before tile bigotry ot Of his and apologize for tho th or so noble xi II hought NO 0 Mon tONIS t MormonIsm has no such apology to tomake make It proclaims of moan WI nil an eternal truth and It go goes os be beyond what de dc dares lie Ho that II a doctrine Is III not In sacred Is silent upon the subject hut but himself upon tho ground that there thero 18 I nothing against It In the tho BIble MormonIsm declares that tim till BIble I It ilK as clearly as a It baptism bY Immersion fo or the tho remis remission Ion sion or of sIns WHAT THE BIBLE DIBLE SAYS When Jesus fesus was about to 10 lepart dopart from the tho parth Ito to the Father In these GlorIfy me 1110 wIth that glory which I had with thee be before foro the tho world was and John time the apostle saId laM In thebe the be beginning ginning was time I full and tile tho Yord OId was with Coil GOll an arid the Word was G God d nn and the tho Word sya flesh and dwelt among us ThIs ought to ho to establish tho tha r th or the doctrine ot of Oh SO says the Iho Christian we dont ont that hilt but wo o hold that tIme tho are aro silent upon timo tho subject of t tho th ot of the race Yer Very well then we will con sIller of the sUbJect Let Iet us seo sen If the tho Scriptures are arc sIlent upon that point Let us tallo the tho just mis liS It reads Yo We vill bo be begin gin In with the tho first chapter or f Genesis where Moses tim tho Prophet fit God years before the tho coming of the SavIor begins to what the tho Clod of heaver Heaven has him regarding the creation or of the tho artim arth the creation o of roan mrm nod of oC the bla beasts ts ot of the tho held the fowls of the aIr the tho fishes of tile sea sen and all other that God had made You vIl read In tho first chanter or of Genesis un arm of thIH creatIon how God made mado two great grent lights light lie tho one to rule tule the day and tho other to govern thu tho night how lie He separated tile tho sea tromm thu tho dry ground lin l made mad the their finny how lie Ho mM nil 1111 other thinGs until he cammie to oman Then lie Ho fla says L Let Letus t tUK us UK make In our Image So GOd Clod created man In Ills Own image In timo tho Image or of God GOll created U Ito him him and created lit lie then God gIves give to In oman man nil all thu tho othOl othni ins aol the chapter ends nut Dut time the con lent ur of the t second chapter After ACter oil 1111 there creations have havo called forth we 0 are mel by the Statement that was hot ft 1 man to 10 till the th ground HUt the key Is fUrnished In thin tho chapter holo it says These am the tho gen generations generations ot of the heavens of tho earth In the miny that the tho Lord God made the tho earth and the heavens und every of the tho livid nelt be or It In the earth and every herb horb of the tho field t before roro it grow SPIRITUAL could be than t that there a 0 tim tho ono one In which hIs hili bodY are Indebted however to 10 revelatIon for tor time tho of the tho explanation con these things thing Smith timo Bible after ime ho had tho Boul of Mormon In tue l ord ho thil mInces ancos to the tho effect that the tho Bible whIch mIllions or of ChrIstIans I ns deem dent tor III 19 Imperfect In that nany lIny plaIn mid parts harts many valuable have been taken tron mom It In Its tim tho through the o cit men h by the tho spirIt of revelation tho he time the Scriptures and ro re stor stored 11 tho Il that render plain and le matters In ii In mystery Quo Ono of f them Is the creatIon the tho before ho is In tho and mint only thIS but the tho creation of flit 1111 timings In time tho spirIt before th thoy were erl nat natural ral ralI 1 I hy upon the tho face ot of tIm tho earth WHAT Y snOWED I hearIng of a who toOk n ft o of wheat what antI and separated It Into Inlo Its component ports lie erod erel that there thore was me much hum In groIn ot of wheat tso en 10 o much of f this nt and that element havIng himself thoroughly with It nil us ho lie hit wont vomit to worl to a graIn or of wheat hiko It ho hI thought lao ho had succeeded lIe took than tho ro 1110 1 o of the tho elements and brought tl hy hIs know knol mamad skIll IU as n a chemIst liS ha II or of N scIence lence lie made n a o of o 0 similar to tIme the other that tilO tho natural eye 00 could mot detect the tho Thou ha talented the tho two and the tho ono one that God Goll sprang liP amp and time tho ono one that man down Why It T lim cannot create Cato tIme the 0 ef n IL ot of wheat I ho c cannot tin II spirit II II It lie ho nover hail the Iho to c It lie that un ho con coma but imiL III ie never nOlI C Ito ian destroy tIme tho Savior sol sald Fear nut not who can only destiny time tho bod body but fear him I who vho can ettia l ot h soul I mind Into Inlo hell Man lInn makes time tho hOlly body as 1111 th tl t of tind Is h the tho bet teet oC cit Ih I tin immortal hut ii t Otal I time till ci ii nt u of n time tho tapi nt 0 of every I I I timid It I a liv In hag NI uI when tIme tho L and tho t Ian budy luau won vere There hero IH 11 i o otho of time tho h body dy anti time Iho spirit at II death but bul It It only there thoro Is III II a reunIon o of tim th time tho hodY which to gc them I U to tho he I multi thu Iho fEona 1011 thin the grave Is III time Iho IC Eu tioma of the lie I soul ilous taught that its I a creatIon followed It by n a temporal hut It la Is not so 80 plaIn In III th than us 1111 It 16 i lit In the of tim Josea Smith I tim heal em 01 tM time o of foE or his utter and for Ir thc tia ni On of nt t he I lIro I I all 1111 to In lime time tho future o mite 1110 reaping time tho t hOW haul we o we Caine hero litre wo VC are now Il a timit Wl mii In lit Is Elder meant lun ho us 1111 that every Cry im will ho nl to tn hIs hili The timings of tha I life mind or of tile the future futuro hit nr l to us In part urt b by that II all brings timings past to Ill ra and shows tu to ConIc como Nor Oi OuR II 1 lh IS III slut lIot put pUI lachut i WV WI from froma a n n n nod God od mind h our home hut that thotIs thatis Is Ito flO ron reason oll why we 0 should ho be sIghing to go when our duty Is to remaIn here her We Vc are lit at school upon the sonic Ollie are hero up upon upon on mIssions In time tho mIdst or of theIr men menThe menTho The Tho human race roco hM lma been sent the tho world to bo be taught and niad to tn he 10 do de experIence by but there thoro are arl some lome groat grent being who ben been I sent ent to be In this mortal of experience The Son of God Gill I Is III the great Teacher of teachers but lie He Ills HIli servants his IlIa prophets ills apostles to Instruct anvIl Inen In this life regal regarding lIn those that pertaIn pertal to their eternal Blessed are they who labor bringing in 80 soUls unto Christ teachIng eyer hasting princIple tile for the tho sal salvation ami exaltation o ot Blessed mire the they whose are In the work o of make It their meat amati theIr drInk amid their JO Joy nil ull the day Blessed arc Ih they Who rumo turn nall unto amid who love the work ot of 1 salvatIon of souls I TIlE rIlE TWELVE lils great sot upon us this mornIng In Imi the few b by President nt at the Stake house lie He from the Book Dook of Mormon in III thin the chapter of 3rd Nephi where the tho Son of God Is l Ills His twelve disciples s chins chos chosen en fromn among the 1 For or It 1 hi 1 believed b by the Saints that the Savior after HIs resurrectIon nt at Jerusalem canie over to this land Ilind then Ihen peopled b by a remnant o of the House of at Israel I and anc appeared Unto them und amid chose twelve disciples taught them the tho sumo same principles that Clint Ho He hud had taught to the twelve at Jerusalem Brother showed that when whon the tho Savior was wa about to take His HIli de dc departure Il to th the twelve What Is It that ye desire of me ter that J I ani am gone to the Father uther And nine or of them l that When they had filled the measure ot of th their years the allotted age ugo of C man they might speedily go to Him In Ills But three of the twelve vere ero thay not utter thought that was In their and lie He told lold them lie He could renal theIr hearts know what whitt they desired It wall sas to remain upon the tho earth like John the tho Beloved and labor for time tho sl salvation ot If 1 down to th the end amid of oC time More blessed arc ye the tho Say Sav SavIor br said aId unto time tho throe three und Ito gave to nil all the desire of theIr reminded us that Uw the o of a true truo Saint Is not nn an Inordinate desire to rest which means to desire a to return to 10 the homo home from rom we como come hut aut II a to keep on for fOI the glory or of Coil mind and tue tho or of humanity LIFE MORE TitAN It h Is more mure In It live than to die I to ro call coli some ome ver verses cl hearing bearing upon Ullon this theme So Sn he tiled for his tutu That Is fine fineMore More dore than most or of mIs do hut sin stay can you add to 10 that line That ThaI he lived mr or It tot too It is 18 raM to dId men have dIed For a wl wIsh h or II a whim For bravado or or pride WM Was It H harder fM r latin But DuL to Iry to 10 lio IIvo out An Ail till the truth that he Whit his frIends mot met hIs conduct with witia dOUbt the world with Vas It thus that lie he plodded Never Nover Then Theil talk o of the tho lIfe that he led Never how hom lao ho lIed I I say It is ht greater to live than to die It I hi grunter to labor for rOI God and to love lovo tho work or of thai to ii do dosh sh sire to return to Elm and alaci behold Ills HL tac ut until the tIme conies when we ue cnn can obtaIn tum re Ie release leo lease from thIs mortal IIII mIssion that lie immia hns upon mis liS Hut But after wo We have nn nn dono our work ork after we have kave fulfilled our mIssion and ond the tho Father says home wiatt a joy jer hu II a sat And I want to say here hore that this Is the only t I over v hat mon men call death When I have dono 1000 Ill work when J I can feel fecI confident that I hao finIshed ed what I caine to do It matte not to 10 mo ma when my comnes 10 0 go horne to our Fat Fathom lei antI Mother In heaven I imagine why hy theme should ha bo 1111 any agaInst the sublime or of th us well weli as the Fatherhood or of Coil or or agaInst the tho great principle or of tho preexistence It ItIs ItIs Is this knowl el e that takes from death Its lit sting that robs rob tIme the solve of Its vIctory victor I 1 know not wll there I Ibo bo 10 nil p prejudice eJU against the comfort Ins truth that heaven Is our homo home and not earth I think J I cnn can see that It would he be best for Cor nil all toBO to so believe Y AUE lIEA HEAVY What Is It that bows the soul lowest loweRt when and trouble come ome In Inthe time the hour blighted of hopes and thwart cd ambitions what makes time tho world so dark Is It not amot because we have hav been cajoling pamperIng our Rouls In ima the belief lIet that the tho earth Is our home out our heaven and that wo we came canie laura hem only to enjoy enjo the tho good timIngs ot of this Ufo Is It not that wo we are aro pa anns to some somo extent that wo we set our hearts the pleasures and posses possessions siGns ot of this world and amid expect too much peace and happiness while here rue Tho good and wIse IM clod who presIdes over the Is all the time talc nn nn n Ing from us liS our Idols shattering the objects or of our In order to remInd us that the tho earth Is not our abiding place pineo that wo we forth from HIm ant and must return to I Him that Ho He must have our OUI hearts In order ordel to make us eternally happy Ho to reverse the proposition lion tion amid hold eternity to be more than time hell ve 0 do this our our sorrows our lions fire time tile sting Is from coin nud we re regard them mere meN meNI merely I ly IS ama n a mC means IlS ot of discIpline mud develop mont opportunities given shen us liS or the ox ex exercise ercIe or of faith hope charity courage and el WILL BE H There is still another phase to this subject and It Is thIs While tho earth Is 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