Show religious Discus discussion cion EDITOR JOURNAL mr cam ocels letter of may I 1 ath contains ins several insinuations that thai aro are misleading leahlin and calculated to V give ive a fahe fili r coloring to my statements in role rence to joseph smith lie hs conveys the lie idea that thai I 1 claim that our salvation depends upon our lai fach h it in him in his last aply I 1 ile he withdraws that charp charge and to lu make the matter no heller better he says except by simplification again he would convey the impression that I 1 interred inferred gods finger was mode of material substance like mans which T did not do 10 tile the bible informs us its that god wrote on tables of stone atone with his linger finger I 1 did not state what material that finger 0 was composed of it is evident that it was it a sub s stil stance as it maide made legible characters on tables OI 01 of L material material stone if mr C can prove either by seri scripture iture or by st bence that it was an all I 1 immaterial finger lie he will oc com that rah which lc li lias has defied tile the ablest ind and most learned theologians arid and scientists of the age in ic ference to the personality of god mr C says god can use material substance when he wants to or lie can a bat t independent of matter the only inc inference rence I 1 draw from this is that thai god when ile he is going I 1 to cibit bita a distinguished I 1 perso personage nafe n like abraham on oil the plains of manire mamre or moses on the mount ile he puts on a body as man would put on his best clothes when abin going to ti visit some prominent character and after the visit lay it aside fui future occasions such a theory sounds to ridiculous for creden credence cre denue c e ind in the light of scripture quite erroneous there is abundance of of c scripture that plainly proves that god lias has a glorified spi spiritual espiritu ritu al body ind and parts and If heaven eaven is his dw dwelling ellina place mr U C may refer to that passage which reads read s n hither shall I 1 go from thy presence or flee from thy spirit to mean lican that god fills all space there is is abundance of scripture to prove that it is the spirit and influence of tod that is everywhere present ind and not his individual personage personage jesus promised his disciples that when lie he went to heaven the dwelling place ot of god cod lie would send them the comforter from the father which was the spirit that proceeds ds from him mr C may quote the words if I 1 decena hell bell lo 10 thou art there no one can doubt but what it was the power and influence of god that was meant it would be inconsistent to suppose that goj god himself was in hell and it would ile be contrary to tile the words of the saviour who ascended to heaven and took his place at the right 0 hand band of god the fact of god moving loving from place to place is 6 proof that lie is not personally present in to places at the same time liis his influence may lie be every where felt as an earthly rulers influence in extend to and is felt all al I 1 over the realm over which lie he rules ever even where he is not present the suns rays are universally d diffused through space and its influence is everywhere felt but yet the sun eun itself remains in its place in the heavens by fering refer rc itil to sacred history we find that god lias bas at sundry times given unmistakable manifestations of his personality we will cite a few god said let us make man in incur our imago image and likeness man alan was made and he had I 1 a body and parts and being made in the likeness of liis his deaker maker then his maker god must have a body and parts god was heard walkill walking in the garden of eden edell a proof that he had parts when the loid visited moses on oil the mount the hand and lice face of iod god is mentioned and mo mol moes es saw liis his back parts genesis the lord came down and talked with Abra abraham harn in chapter the lord talked with jacob and said unto him I 1 am god almighty and god went up tip from him these are not fig figurative expressions but ar are I 1 history I 1 and consequently mean what they say and need no interpretation they are given in plainness that man mail may form correct views of tile the god he be is called upon to worship in the lords prayer our saviour teaches us to say our father who ilio art in heaven telling us ua plainly that that is gods dwelling place it was from there lie spoke when christ was baptized it was from there lie sent the holy ghast down in the shape of a dove although I 1 have shown that G god oid has a I 1 bod body and man is in his likeness it does doe 3 not follow that tile the qualities are the same god may possess many qualities that man m an lias has not got I 1 am uleasea to note there is a change taking place in this imbor I 1 important tant subject with willi mel whose minds are arc not trammelled atit aith old superstitious theories and are beginning to advocate the fact that god is ia a divine glorified person po possessing pose saing power and wisdom and liis his influence extends throughout the realms of space pace ilow much more satisfaction satis fiction there ix is in worshiping such it a leing being than nn an immaterial nonentity achasa as a noted nou d divine said god was seated on the top of a n topless throne beyond the bounds of time and space where the distant distanti mind nind can never trace whose centro centre was everywhere and his circumference nowhere such do t magical theories have caused E ome men with weak minds to doubt the ox istance of god while some have become pronoun pronounced eed atheists Idola tors 8 p something that thai is i christians worship vor ship tin an ima imaginary in god that is not judge jud r e beaw axt the he two PALMIER |