Show C ALUMNI AN Wt U f U Statement in Reply to Address Is Issued Issued Issued sued by University Alum Alumni ni Association SAY FALSE CRY IS RAISED I lIr Arc re re Culling Cullin Tor Fot Economy When Man Ion Arc rc Not ut ot TUlpan To The Deseret News In tho the Salt 81 Lake Laki newspaper of at recent IRto ap appeared reared nn n address s from tho ho Alumni of ot it the tI University of at thir president John C O Mal Mae Ka ha halo In which the tie writer wrier claims clims to tc facts the ad vis ability of ot the University jd jr d Agricultural college of ot o tUli tUh on onne onne onre ne re ait Ik ut lit Halt Hall Lake CIt CI It I becomes my I duty dut ag a president of ot the Ihl Alumni association of ot the tl Agricultural tural tur college ollege of ot tah In II compliance with wih a a request from the executive r of at the tM association to tn expo eJ f home of oC the in fU the arguments of ot thoe enthusiastic of ot the th thet University t Alumni who ho aie Ic clamoring d for tor A Greater reater It I Is s sur surprising lur to note that thit the ti University Alumni association Ian inan or of thom hol tire Iro ro not even tn taxpayers should hould be s Sj i ex extremely eager ger to tu vure ure an al use liFe tl of ot the states fund air I it t has hns been el leant hon hown that there I Is 3 no 10 real foundation for tor or the that tho merger will 1 result In hi II u it 1 saving to th three faux i eople opIa bent h on monopolizing the th tate Mate funds or r education to tn th the a f t their almi alm muter mater clos dOle Ioe their eyes E 0 o Justice to 10 facts fatIs tal nd simply tr tn cry economy It I Is I not nol nl that the I tural College Collego Alumni should hould fed feol deep leep In n the th present und and ne le e ready r d to exi o e non lon Ion of ot farts facts Intended to Mid uld In hi II the 11 is of ot their fo ItI mother lother Im lol i vears yean the Agricultural url college has hu l been striving to assume In the eye ICI of ot the public a I distinct to es establish ideals and traditions and ald to toft ft atIz within her hall young oung oun men le and women who rho ar are aN 1011 devoted d to lo her herand herand and to all al she Iho ho stands for because beau they th love her the has succeeded There I were werE those who sneered when tl i said bald Ild In defence e of oC Dartmouth Darmuth She ilie SheU U is a little college hut but there are lre some a col gl ture Ile Ilet nf t us WI u who ho love loe her hor There are many mon who ho will wi sneer now IW at lt the thought of ot student love for tor the Agriculture col college rl lege Ie Hut Bul It exists in II the hearts heart of oC thousands and of ot men mn ln toni mul women through throughout out Utah and to deprive them Item of ot their theli college home would be Ii An nn educational f rime that no true tre college man would ever tvr dare dae to sanction f TIlE THE HE m The Th arguments ar set et forth In the th ad ar drefs referred to above are aro hued bated upon statements II made In tn the majority re report r report port or of the commission appointed by I bylo 40 lo ov Cutler to investigate the opell O s of oC the und Agricultural tural ollege and determine to what whal hat there IB Ii II unnecessary l toi In ii in the courses el and equipment of oC he lie two Institutions Jn The report should h a a reliable hulK baMs for the Ihl argit arguments ments of oC any A Individual or 1 The Tho people expected tho commission to make an honest hOlo t and I iron fort ort to secure reliable data duta and to tomake toJ tomake J make maio an unbiased report of oC their find OIW findings tags ings Contrary to these expectations llon the juggled with wih statistics to up facts and create cr at false fal im Un impressions pre quoted only portions of ot sev several 11 eral Iral letters received by b them thel In re ye response ro of nr which the tho to a a Utter letter leter Inquiry 1 secretary of ot the sent P ll out outto outto to leading educators omitting such luch portions portIon tw OJ I would tend to oi against I the movement for consolida consolidation tion and ad In 18 s proved themselves prejudiced and to properly the duties JuUel Imposed Imp on them b by their appointment The Th minority member of ot the tie com coin commission 01 mission have hl le the report referred to RM as I an al unjust Inaccurate and biased document designed only el elto to promote the interests ta of ut tho thoN those e who favor f or combination COST PER PEU CAPITA An example of ot unfairness Is I present pr lent lentIn K in the way Wo the UI majority of ot the corn com commission mission estimated the cost to the state per capita of ot students of at college grade at the th two The statement Is la Icing being emphasized almost allo t dally daily by b certain lain tain through the col column column H of ot the newspapers that the i college spends annually on Its Is college grade prado students the enormous I Is sum s m of ot per capita while stu do students dents dpI of ot the tho same ume pr grade nt sit fl the University I shy sity PI cost the state 71 each The es cs estimate I was made by L the commission in lii tl this ia a It Is conceded by b nil all al that thI The he cost it of ot educating a I stu atu Km 11 In the district school Is Ii I O jr ter nn an anU ni ii U 1 Now 0 the college 1 e has n lied le US IU above Aboe district il 1 1 age who had not completed IE uh th grade rde work hut who ho wanted w m 11 turning In agriculture carpentry tr tt or domestic tc arts Many tany them were men and nl 1 women om 1 ranging tr I m JO O to Sc W 1 years ears IIA of oC I Th were I for tor the th t work that tl I Ih h if t wanted wanlo but In addition additon to this I Icy Ity were rt required to 10 do soon fome tOIl work In th or history which as f perhaps In lit II some r not nol be b 1 the work ork of ot the tl grade they were 1 t these commission charged hard then them th the i if fl io In 1 his state at al Only on 1 IO The fact hat jo H 1 out of C the lU 13 were Itt doing tech leeh techI I fl work and spending I most of ot their in 11 11 e C I in well equipped laboratories and IK using apparatus and was vis WIl not 10 token taken Into Inlo account The he were guilty of ot studying arithmetic and arithmetic is Iii II a ii I common 1101 hence Mie hc COSt con of ot their ther work was w estimated iio II p higher than the av avera a average era go tot cort t of ot n a year ar In the te distrIct school chol Then It I Is IA estimated that high lol students on an 11 average cost the I state US IS Men The college offers two years 5 ear ur i of ot preparatory or high school hol work At the university thice years eara tr above aboe the tl I grade ore are re ye required r for lo to the freshmen tr hmel class Ho iO without comparing cOln the th work ork accomplished ra In the preparatory schools school of ot the two institutions the majority of ot the proceeds to classify tho th freshman at lt the th Agricultural college colfle as I students of ot high school seh ot grade Kr or to stretch our preparatory work over owr three years Ia This reduced the number of or students of ot college grade Jrade at atthe tho the Agricultural college from Hi 11 to 71 il The follow Ine outline of study tont lutes freshman work In the mining en engineering n course NUU at a the th university ac according cording cordial to 10 the Uie t catalog for fo l oi oiO General O nral chemistry first nut haltar General Central i and an qualitative in an JyM yI rOd half Higher algebra first nul t half haf hat AnalytIc geometry second halt half hair rw haM and drawing h composition n nr r ar 17 This Thil the commission recognized ai as A college olles trade grade work ork Compare Comae It I with lh the te following which Is II freshman trl w werk rk In 11 Ir at an 11 course coors at lt th lb A eel rol 11 lege chemistry nut first t halt half year jear ar arIn General In rt and aM qualitative an am 11 half Hither 11 algebra bra fir frt first t halt half Plane and anS spherical a trigonometry try j 1 t halt half drawing t 1 f History of ot En English lh literature This the majority members of oC the tho arbItrarily decided to con consider cn sider eider as al high school chol work work The courses are arc almost Identical Even tho the same me textbooks are u Ute used d In la most cases und and In the same amount of oC work orl Is accomplished pushed pl hed The composition llon and carpentry in I th the freshman year ear are re preparatory courses cOUt at the Ag Agricultural college and the trigonometry and physics hIts in the th Agricultural collect cole freshman year nor are arc Ite preparatory courses at the university UIt I To count all al who were taking the above course urle at the as students of or college grade rade and all al who were taking the sama sante court course roure at the Agricultural college as ni of ot high school grade Is not I the b beet t kind Rind of oC honesty Uy JI i this pro proCHA CHA of ot classification the majority memo mem member I IbE hers ber bE of ot the t ht commission found at a I the Agricultural college only 71 fl of or orlle college lle e grade and 47 4 high school stu MU students tu dents while at a l the university I they the stile able ahlf to count 44 college and il l high school hol students It I Is nn as ni follows pp J 13 23 and 24 21 4 majority report General fund for the thc university I city ity fit General fund for tor the Agri Agricultural cultural college In the 61 51 1 students of ot high school chool grade at US 15 per capita This ThU Til taken from the tho general fund 1 mI O To lie he divided among college students which would ouM be for tor each student 16 In the Agricultural 11 alla grade students at O per pr GIO t students of ot high school grade ut at I I H 45 per pr capita capia Total This Thin amount taken lak from the general fund fUI 1 leaves leavec If IO to be di JI divided vided among 71 il college students which would b III for tor each student SliU The only reasonable r and equitable plan of determining th the cost COlt of ot the tile JIn state flute or of of at college al d of oC high nr grade grale would be L to tite tl the cost oot of ot buildings equipment brat hrat hll light janitorial servIce tIt etc etc equally among all al the students 1 In at attendance sine Inc all ni share equally the of ot the thEl these e then add to iu the une thus thul obtained the 1 cost l t of for stu plU students dents of college and high grade t to the cost r t of oC each to the state A compute te list of or tile the members of 01 the faculty of ot the Ag Agricultural 1 g college cl gc with wih a n of the salary of lt each and Ild the proportion of the Hit th time of each rach or Mini and Mid In ln devoted d to college gradt and high school grade fult work was IK sent ent lent to lo lothe the but for tor or some m renson ren renthe the majority members did not deem leem It advisable to Include It I In their heIr I re te report report port The he statement nt summarized shows hols that the tl salaries paul paid pall fur fui In work ork of lt college grade amount to mla It II to be divided Hi col coh college 11 lege Ife students This 1 I is for tor in instruction II Instruction for tor e each a h student of oC college les grade The fhe cost rl per student for buildings equipment Improvements and miscellaneous expenses expensed Is I JW 10 I This Thil added dd d to the tho cost c t of instruction makes 1 95 the time total tOll cost con co t per annum for of ot college grade This Thil In Is I lees lew Ie than titan 43 It I Is s an nn honest Lion tion of ot Acts lon We Ve dont lont believe the farmers of ot the state lat rai rl cots so o much about this attempt the funds h hypothetic hn to tl on ft a H II si basis snaking making U It appear that nine tenths of ot the money mOle U Is I spent pell on A 1 Stu small percentage of ot the students I mi 1 dents hoe have the same caine privilege at the tha Agricultural college In III II their preparatory preparatory par tory tor years jours tl that they the enjoy In their eel col collego 11 lego Jele je ars ar 1 Tiny use ue the i canto amo libya libra libraries Ibra ries museums 11 I class rooms room labora habora laboratories tories anil an models The only real ad 01 advantage au vantage In n favor fAor of ot the college stu student fU students dents dent lies In the fat ad t thuit the 11 classes c care carp are arp smaller find and ld professors II of instructors are ir Iu in charge of the tle work all 11 1 the students of the Ihl institution tion on un fl the same Im basIs for cur the ordina ordination lou lion tion ton of ot tho the cost l l per lor capita UINta the records show 1101 that the thc total amount expended by Ly the college for tor maintenance I Ings and ant equipment ment from the tue date of ut utIl Its Il to July Jul 1 lO lf has been a R total enrollment of ot students for tor the tue pame sante 11 period of or ori i which would make the tM cost c t per student nU G HIGH SCHOOL I Mr Ir MacKay I Ia says faja faI Our plan Is to unite the schools school on al one site le and under one board eliminate high school schol work and out of oC the th savings to pUt give t state aid to the tue high schools throughout the Mate to the extent of mill mi tax on the assessed valuation of ot the proper property ty t of oC the state If IC I this thin is hi a accent accomplished pushed every el er boy 0 or girl who wants want I to 10 receive the benefits of ot the work now 1 given at al the Agricultural college would liars have to spend three thre years e et rt In Iii II the th nor normal mat mal II detriment department of ot the university or In Inome some ome other oilier good go high school before entering upon the tle technical work of or his hisor hl hlo or o 0 her chosen course If It good go well 11 equipped high schools hols were werl scattered over OP Utah within IS ees reach rech of ot every oer eighth grade Erde graduate this thin solution of oC the problem might hav hu have tome utne ole merit nut hut under present nt conditions and ald for tor years ears to come the majority of or stu students students students dents who vho ho desire delre work In II agriculture domestic science or engineering will willbe willbe 1 be forced to spend three years jears in pro pre re preparation In the normal school If It consolidation Is I effected letI The mill 11 tax tox levy I would not al the difficulty In halt half a century If at ut all al and It would be difficult to I secure lure n a f constitutional amendment to It such fiCh n a levy Ie In NT The mission of oC the Agricultural eel col college cl lege t Is to educate working men inca and women comen Its Il aim Rim is IN to receive the tIme tons sons and ald daughters of ot the Industrial Indu chute and ld to give hl such luch Instruction as aa will wi best N for ter success in their lifes 11 work rork rork KB Its Is Meal ideal man tn or woman Is II th thc intelligent laborer not nOl the pro rr fe lessor or In II this respect r the spirit of oC the Ih Agricultural A Iu college Is II I different from that of ot the university I IN II the Agricultural college lec then than jus justified uc tilled In IU II giving high hl 1 school chol or r hut work or Ir even fn work equivalent to that tul given en In the According h tn In Supt Nelsons report for 1 1 t there were Nf cre children hildren between ein the theOle ages Ole of six Ix and nt eighteen yrs ears Nr who attended no nn school Phol whatever during durin that thOl year tr and probably KW 10 would be Ie a conservative estimate of ot the chill chil children dren of ot school 1 hol age In Utah last IlA year or orho who ho were WIrl deprives of ot even el the privilege Ihl lege ol ot attending M s district school chol A Anen great nen majority of ot these children grow r to be bo men and anti women I before they the re reallie allie the the necessity of t attending 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