| Show I P f w ts ills IlIS ATm ATTORNEYS HS They Insisted on the Insanity plea PIea it is Said While He Opposed It ItAM ItI III I AM THE BOSS HE SAID te II j to ln lr ll l III of or HI HINn JI Nn w York July Jul William WilliamI mother of or K 1 Thaw ac jan I 1 1 i jot nf Of the th murder of or Stanford While to New ew Yok on the tb la rn Augusto Augusta Victoria The pus ps I 1 gel I did lild not nol land lanit until nearly ne I Ii I i i this afternoon and nUll It ft wee wag 88 then tun 1 i for tr Mrs M Irs Thaw Tha to tot visit h r son soni I t i o p Tombs jr William W S Thaw was Wall I in 1111 t her trip trill from England by br brI J I er and daughter du Mr Ir anti and nd j 11 Ir L 14 Carnegie Mrs Irs Thaw i t oi deleted Mrs Ir Evelyn V bt bit Tb Thaw wife WO of ot the prisoner T i It r was wal Mid hi to be most 1111 J i u H of ot routine for tor Thaw anti and andi lUll i 4 1 h Wade WittI of ot the prison wont wn out oUI the Th cutter which met the vessel en slid and I up III IT the Ih bay hAY on the with i Th rh It Jt was wall vs said Mid iI t that 11 Ii Thaw has bar the law I 6 P k Olcott In Inti f ti rf anger anti the firm of oC 1 viner cloy Gov Go S 8 Black lilack U lit Un n Ii e 4 L will not l the young Bung ung i 1 f In his hit trial for tor the killing of ot V i it If 1 11 I It U 1 lit 18 said was the cut rul tulI IM IL I of ot a number of ot argument argumenti i ni i h I ii had with various member firm over or the Ihl question of nt a R Judge Olcott who ho hag hu been b n nIi i Ii member of nr the firm In IOn eon cont t Ii on with fib the case Ite all alone alon Insisted unity be bt midI made the hid chief f point f r It I he believed White while III IIII I In In equal 1111 It If not greater i IK tk that he hI would not stand Mand for forill forU U ill I there have been lIum ar sr art r t nit between Thaw and Ind Judge JUd 8 01 Ol Oln n rt this question there therl wee wag no open I II I dK K It II It lit Mid until FroG after when to 10 the authority L the th atory In he I hued based Thaw R g T verbal combat with Judge 01 Ol Oln n Ii r the Ihl Tomb Tombs became anti and nd up a R tirade by b telling tilt tile lawyer I I that the th firm of ot Olcott J I fr r e no longer were hit his hitI hi IL ILI I am the ry br ba n II Thaw ThI Ic It declared 4 1 hae hai raid after Judge Jude Olcott had hadN hadI K I PJ N it U a II ac his hili ultimatum that Thaw Tha 4 place In the Ih IniA i of his hia as U n It patient In Ine Int t e p 1 hand lianda of ot his hilt and submit t Irely to 10 the judgment of ot law 18 firm firmi i e 11 i the Ihl heat best manner r of ot conducting is s e and I will not lIot stand for forr r n pIet the prisoner r Added Judge then left the prison I t in it Mid anti and today toda received a I letter rII 1 In the atory etory tor from Thaw III In Ini Iiii i i h 1 th thy Ihn younger man mn put PUI In writing ilIA h n e di 4 m ii a ai of or the firm tirinA A nf or Judge Judo firm hr 11 about aboul the matter to In tour InId gh Id I ur Ut firm wan wac RII not lIot engaged by b byi i Thaw but bill by b the taw law kl firm amt of ot offit fit 1111 H A who iho are ar coun r Barr Thaw and ami wm wert I 1 for Ir Thaus Thata father tather during the 0 Tt s lifetime They retained t IlkI ik k charge 1 of ot the criminal end r e 1 rase ralle We W have 1 11 obliged our ur plans plane for tor the th defene ung un Thaw to go 10 along alon linen In InC f r n 0 his hl wishes Further than I do not care to tf talk Just now T i IR Ia said Id another for tor the th di dig 1 g Thaw Tha anti and ht hIs io pl i arow aroi arll nut out of or the payment of nt if 1 in Mils built Thaw contracted In th the I k after arr lila his arrival there thre a u a ai ar i r A noticeable disagreement ii n nd firm rm ram cam came div d 1 v met lint week Mk when Thaw lulled 1 0 it In to tile the th II with lIn 1 r I I ott denying that i s ne and declaring that that 11 I n t t 1 I the defence when Ihn hla hI In to trial Judge Jud 1 Olcott In InA Int t A i ig g f r Ihl hl statement lAM 14 V r YI I r i milled t Harry Hirty Harl to 10 make mk the thee e hr tf pottered pestered me mf an o 0 much i Ih t I In InI Inn J I n v va when he ht heard nf lit Ih 1 md th next day dar he hI railed called In the ther I rr r r ra It made a verbal and ani still Kill Mr iper ger r statement along the Ihl came me st Judg Jud OleoUs content consent or IIrI I u n knowledge It was wall Judge JUdg Ol 01 1 11 s 11 turn uin to tn get angry r when hn he I Ien MW sCent e en statement In the Ih f 4 md nl It Is III said that he lie h laid laj down don downa III a I t tn In Harry Friday afternoon IH to tl the story Mar or received i 1 as s Thaw it legal eg tepee tup in Itt connection with the mur murr murrl murril r rl ril HI 1 Dl DIM t Atty AU Att Jerome aCOm I In hy two 0 n nf t hi hili II and nd Notter left Ift for the south lOuth 1 to Iti be gene three It H te is teI isI II III I today that th the th district at 10 In Interview Joeph f o MI si tn to I some me ml details detail ir r at which Thaw Th was waa II 1 hut ut this wan wis 11 liter later denied by b in n E GOIm x V rk rh July Jul U Mrs William Williams s 8 prohibited today by th thile ile from her hr won son I Kendall Thaw in the Tombs Tomb iv announced fl that the she will 1111 so sopI pI II time tomorrow probably In Inbe H be bf the Ont first meeting of ot mother I i Ino Ince nce the tragedy on 0 the Mad Iad roof root garden when Thaw wn Stanford White Mrs Ir Thaw Tha HI 11 11 from Europe yesterday Thaw Is 1 at nt the e p where Mr Mrs Ir Nesbitt t Thaw has ha been making mailing i tie since Ince Harry Thaw ThaI was wag ar If ari 1 i w s a In the th elder dor Thaws this after Atler at III 11 4 W III I h 11 Iti 1101 f i 1 In o th the th Uira ui I of ot the la law lal Hi in of ot mack lilack OU 01 1 cott iott Umber A W a reent wa was aI Is 18 not known and anI Mr Ir Hartridge declined afterward nard Co 10 o MY M Y what if It any w were ere re con contemplate template in the line hits III of ot defense In n lt f the th Ih ca case cae e today Mr said Mid Id that while he rallied young Thaw JID wa in nn un awful atul hole holt holthe he did not nOl III that any all Jury Jill would ever ver convict him of lit f anything 1 l fowl tol as 1111 soro surl ur of lr that thai Mid sold the at attorney t torney a u aR I 1 do tio that 1 am Manding hero here I 1 would lab tak my n soul on It II lr to lu making this statement Mr r had explained that kat for lor fory y Mr ard he hI been a personal and aDd en Intimate frind of ot Thaw and It was waa u at Mich that be originally was n call CAlled Into Ibl the case cue As A to the lessons leading 1 up to the decision on the Ibe part of Thaw to dl dit with the services of ot flack 01 Ol COLt cou Gruber t Mr Cr e said lId he could not speak at It ilm m He lit added Judge Olcott la Is a personal and nd pro frIend nd of 0 mine min Mil Ml It II would not nol he be fair till to him or to Slimy about that phase of the cue cae until I Ishall shall Mv hid an Interview with Judit Judg I expect to te a him tomorrow and get f l from him the tbt result of or his hil hi work of ot the tb lt last lul t two to weeks week or more Mr Hartridge then saId Mid to the th re ta reporter reo porters porter I want tant a z lull full and 1100 frank understand Ing with the men mb who are going to 10 follow lollo Ihl this see t for tor the Ih newspapers I wish t of ot all 81 that t hit I nobody shall be misled and that no stories detriment or lr untrue it I a to either tide side Idl hall g Itt get Into Inlo print ant and be bt credited to the coun Miln lei el fur tur Hairy HI r Thaw AH ia 11 It Is I man many stories atones hav hA ba len been printed that thaI hurt the ca tI ease e in the minds of ot the pub jub lie anO the friends of ot both persons peron mo mOlt t concerned In the affair All 11 that tha wt WI want cant allt U Is the huis truth It will OUt ou In gOOd time From a II lIon made by b Mr Ir Hart Hartridge Hartridge hartridge ridge It ti tl evident that thaI both Thaw aul hl hi his wife ar are ani anxious anlou to make some kin kini of a I statement for tor the Ih new n chief mUll coun coune a e said Mild that among other plans plan he h hal hili In mind was waa II on one providing that thai Harry and SM Mm lra 1111 Thaw should write out fo for him whatever r they think or feel CHI that tha the Ih newspapers II should uld know unit and It te would pan ass on 1111 n the article and If it he hf ap p proved them Ihm would gi h e them out to In Inthe the men mn h it ii is known knolln to 10 those who have Itaf talked to in Thaw Tha an ant his wife witt that there are Rr several ral on tin which both wish lo to speak but bill their lip hue ha been sealed aled by their These Thene subjects deal In good nod part pari with their early life and ani family tamil relations Mr Ir refused to t give nh he a II t hint bin binas as 11 to the line the defense would take It would be months month before the th cac ee will Ill I he brought up for tor trial anyway he h paid Mid 1 I do not look for tor the trial before November or more mor probably December MAY 11 Y OT DISMISSAL New e ew York July Jul Aba be Gruber of the firm of ot mack Black Olcott A It wa was learned yes yesterday ye ep that the Ann has hils not M U yet de do decided elded to tn accept at ePt Harry K IC I Thaws Thal dl die as lIB final They ar 1 are going to 10 have havea b a talk with Thaw Tha mother I We vt were ere not hired by It b Harry Harr Thaw but bul by a Mr dr Ir D an I acting for or Mra Mr Ira I im Thaw said laid amber Gruber We Ve W shall lit lay y this matter UlI before beto her and then thon may tn have something to uy say II In itt re me to the matter Clifford W V Th rr r person personally on ally nil appointed counsel in chief an I If f unfed yesterday that the Ih J I Black ruber A Bonynge by it hl his hIe client had halt been accompanied by b th the th i torance of ot the ties tie them that bound I Lewis to 10 the tho rose RIt RItA Aa A far tar as 1111 Thaw Is concerned there theft no now remain of ot the lawyers at al one m time Um by b the defense only onh Mr 11 John Jolin and nd perhaps Mr of ot the linn or of Dots Dela 1114 Longfellow L I 1 If is I not hot a member of ot this P IVia field Ic is I not a II member of I Its in bead head This Thill I is the crucial lIt list ai as Ii furnished t I Mr ir He II 11 II a big bl broad b J shouldered titan man and once pulled In a cr rr lie III ul talk pretty freely l o t Thaw rate raM In III wm some wa W yea yei ON showing tit the n liaw w turn lum tin the ca ease lad taken When hen asked about the sut aug u that Thaws action might be bf a planned move to make people PHI believe belleve him insane inane Mr Ir aid That course coarse M is not nt so I The Alg thom of that comet tom from th the district at tornes e Mr I r Thaw letter Pak speaks for tor Itself Mi Mt 11 Olcott and aM hi his hll linn were engaged b by Mr M 1 who ho rewe rented lien I ed that I h t u tt fIrst Mr 1 r J I be hove Un u Is no longer retained by b Mr Ir Thaw Mr fr declared that the In Ink k ent enit had hll lIMn been positively forbid den det f by b Thaw and added a As II I sun here a man Harry Ken gin dal Thaw That tIll Oil never be of r anything I r would slake my mr son seal 1001 on oat It H lie III l Is a square fellow fello and to take taJet advantage of any n baby beby beb set art such as all Insanity when he ho declare la that he is I p Mine amine All AH that he wants want Is II Isto to lobe W be by b a Jury Jur of rf cubit peers peer In Just juat J the semi same way wa ny ordinary man ac at accused Iu of t a I similar crime would be lie trial ti 1 H Iff does dOOS not Mt want ant to tn be bf retarded as a en sn entitled titled to any an consideration II because he hat harpen pens to t come tOme from a wealthy fain fam family m mII ily II Had you U over ever r Thaw before In n any an le legal l Mr Ir thought for soot some lit littie little littie tie tle tint time II before No Nn he finally replied hut hu I 1 hs I him on several fra I occasions Is Ii I Jt It t true trim that thai y IU u devoted yow year 0 self elf Ir particularly rt to the Ih practise el civil Uw law and that hat you 01 have little OX x in III criminal matters matter To all Intents and purposes purpose ye yea Most of ot my m practise in I in hi it th Ih the civil 1111 courts I know something Il however h of 0 criminal law lar la For lor 1 Jr llIn I r le do fended I 1 Dr r Winter a oVin I n I hyst h clan dan who was 41 held as II an cai d Una I in tic tlc Is III that Ut the only eren you youlia tW lia ha has e had hd In n criminal Oh no I 1 just Jun mention that Ihal ea ae Will you 01 thee the HI conduct condu the Ih case camS A Probably nL toL I f will fOr the ground for far 1 1 day d and n the Are that 1 I sill then Ihn employ r tome some other firm arm of or lawyer to tn take lake charge hr 1 of fir the conduct of or thc Ih case ca in inthe i the meantime I shall have hI the Ih tame Mme I of it my iny partners partner Mr jr rc oh dv and Mr Gleason 1 KI i It t possible that thu 01 Ol tf It Him firm will bo he called Into til lb t oa oaN 7 N X Ni It II is ii I not It b l out of It the ese CI f flip fr nr A At rIling to Ie Mr th tM the In nil frt whom Mr hs It ItI I tm tilli HI III W IH kept under retainer I l him 1 r I llev It that Is fr f no tin more n than right I the Ih of th t we gentlemen rave J n 1 engaged l aaM soM Mr Wr Hart Hartridge ridge rid He UI refused refuel to i iju P PuM ju Jut uM t ahat h hal Use if Ir any A would be made mad if f their 1 |
