| Show LEGAL EXPENSES Samuel S Assistant Registrar Testifies Con Concerning cering Them HAD TROUBLE IN CALIFORNIA XI nl In Other Now c York Yok Nov XO 17 Frank H U Jordan ton un of uC the former comptroller of th J Life wati ho the first called before thu tho 1111 11 commit lom It t today He le at thu tho pret previous ous nu that thi he hu did not know the of ot lilt hil tathel or mother ho hu did dl not know whether they nO 1111 or II ded lend Today ho h he hud not since lourn lm I It il t of o his wh Ho had hal a I letter leter from lib hl moth mother er who vho la Is in hi Canada She noth nothing ing about his hie father AH 1 to his hla profile from the lira 11 Insurance In written on prop proportion orUo to the he hE hit hi father I none lone of oC them Hu JB had no ni lilen Ien nf oC hl the turl hed him hll Samuel Samull S McCurdy l of the 1 wan 81 next He hud been lecie tary to Hery Becy 1111 ex r tho As 8 he had custody of vouchers tor mOloy out olt for fo legal expenses os He le pro plO durw dur the rn for tor such Ilch t for fO the th lust ten yours lurs On the tho vouch em el for tor I WOH a letter leth r to James AV W Alexander from Robert H J McCurdy of oC tho Mutual Lire Life company COlpa which accompanied a bill hi for or the share of salary alay and e of George S as lS plenary legal representative of the l BO 10 New York Insurance com comI I ny and the th Mutual Life Insurance company The salary lalan of or Mr lr from fr m this combination wn WaH given Ien In a statement as us U Il vas InS brought out Ot that Mr Ir duties wore The packages of for tor pay payment JA ment for legal services In various tt legislatures were gOle through by h Mr Ir 11 who Bake as to thu legal ser services vices rendered by I the rs of or the various vouchers A voucher from Cram James M r Jan 2 7 was for in full Cul for fOl set vices rendered the tho coming ot oC tho general In 11 f Ild not know Lewis or the cervices he hE performed nor nr did he hod much light on other voucher Mr r McCurdy 1 a n month had been be n paid to roundel to rep rell rent the before the lon at rt the suggestion of K J S the tho ney IP who had told the tho witness A It was paid palt to n a brother of oC tho Insurance e com om commissioner missioner Ij The amount paid In that t WIS the H also alj said ald that approximately 17 too was WM paid to W II I of or California coun counsel counsel sel for tor the th Mutual Insurance com At the cloe llo e of It IS when the society filed Its Is annual state statement ment with wih the tho California Insurance de department the commissioner asked Ie 10 additional questions the tho witness paid all which tho commissioner lonC knew It was W practically Impossible for tor the noddy to answer because l UH IH books wore not Ilot kept 1011 FO f ns M to do this Tills hIA the witnel said lI was Wi practically a n rehash of ot the demands the tho commissioner had made lalo pr ly Winess tho company with the had haO no like experience th Insurance e department of or any other state to Ills his personal olal knowledge and Ind that like Iko proceeding the New York YOlk Life Ilfe and the Mutual were wee terminated I about tho th same lame time ns 08 those against the thC focht There here were a n dozen Injuring on the Ihl Interpretation of one of the laws and nut It for fOI representation In these hearings the tho 2 a f mouth month IA paM paid Mr Il Hudd while In Now ow York consulted almost entirely with wih Mr Ir fald hl he thought no Burt 11 p j I I pointed Mr lr ns Il H Ho did net think the m n to whom the th tha a month was wal did anything forthe ocle Do you IU know how h much luCh of th w moneys A was waR paid to tl OO Hudd asked mOle counsel for the Mr Il McCurdy Y Mid aid h ha did not know I that to 10 his hil knowledge no 10 of disbursement Wi by hT Mr Ir III 11 Mr Ir McCurdy wild he went to California but did not meet leet Mr h to whom the 5 won ni In nil ni the tho six weeks h he won WOI The Nev York Life Ilfe and the th Mutual were nl o paying ZW a month to tl the sanio man ma n for the same the said the tho i Equitable J lC th t h Another demand which M said Mr II made wn that a n com nm sl pleto cot ot of or the K Looks books be kept at ut the of the San I agency which would have hae cost the society Melet about aboul oo Hr Hp also paid 1111 that under law II I of California the have ha collected d his hid fe ef from tho Equitable soci society PI PIety ety upon making hit bli proposed of ltd Id Th do dl not make nako In Independent Inde dependent de pil t ex ml nation of the New NewYork cw York companies Mr Ir McCurdy wild 11 It but at the tho of had the th thI New I York valuation Minnesota a four t l or 01 live lve year erl ago Cage Hage 15 E second vice Ice pi il of or the odet na called when Mr Ir McCurd had ha He HI told of ot his hil connection with wih Equitable which lm ha continued 10 26 11 Mr Ir Tarbell laid he Knew nothing of th the memoranda given by I Mr 1 Jordan to toA o oA A C Ho Iu did not know 1 knew only that he looked the legislation In New nr for Cor the Mutual He le hud had conference with Ih rep ren representatives re of oC rela relative ral tive to tn unit endeavored ored ore In 10 to A I i nf r rona one ona appointed to tl look th the Inter ruts pst of Hint thul would b he af affected If by b any bill bis In th legislature that would b bt Inimical He le In Indirectly directly that Andrew Hamilton hid hd been len employed H U wan Ri of It tho opinion that no company compI should have ha 1111 nn MX 1 pen I In connection with Ith legislative matters malus U never nc r knew of o n dollar eln expended In tn th t wa He Ho tool took the tho position that If I legisla legislation tion could c J not b 11 by h remedial r moans the company should hOUld iodise to do OU tl business In the Mr Ir lc 11 of oC I the N XI w York Itt agrees with wih him and th Mutual Life Ufe was nu approached to come com to tn munt on thin subject but hit the Mutual would nut 40 1 into such a combination on Oi tho that It una not practical While Mr rr Tarbell wu Wil Senator Pen w 1111 and asked about of nt John A for CO 1000 00 foi 01 legal t to the l abU |
