Show t 1 I tr I 1 Japans Side Si e of or Present War u I i r I 1 1 I t t t t t t r Hll l 1 II III HH r I 1 i ri i r J f i to tor toT r T I j II H H I I II II Tim Till Photo by b Special elon for or Use Uee to the tho News Correspondence of 01 the Dum Newt by Frank G Copyrighted rop by Prank Frank G O Carpenter if 1 C May 16 I Ilvo you today toda an nn Inter Interview view which I have havo Just hud had with Mr Kogoro tho Japan on tho situation In tho far ur cast Mr Is one of ot tho ablest of ot tho diplomats nt w Washington Ho has hn for tor years been heen connected tonn with tho foreign of ot Japan and hrs hus also his country ns minister In Korea Koren Holland and Denmark Italy Ital Austria Switzer Switzerland land Imd and IDO at n t Wellington Ho HoIs Is a man of ot broad education speaking languages Including English In III which our conversation was carried on The talk took place In the parlors of o othe the Japanese legation My first ques question question tion was ns to what Japan expects to toBt tog Bt g t from rom the tho war with Russia That question can bo answered In one word sold said tho minister Japan expects justice But speaking more In detail I may say cay that sho Bho expect tho tr ar to result t In such a n determination of 01 the tho rights rl of ot tho two countries ns OB regards th North Asian littoral as will her hor against aggression In the tho fu Cu future ture What do you mean meon by the tho north Atlan I asked I the territories of ot northeast northeastern ern Asia and moro more especially tho a o border Its sea Ben coast bolow Si Siberia SIberia beria namely Korea Koren and Manchuria JAPAN AND AD CHINA But Dut how about China your excel excellency lency Some people speak of ot thc tho war us u one for tor the control of oC China Is Japan ambitious to control China Distinctly and emphatically no re Minister Japans at nt upon that subject was tully fully dc lie lined In tho Iho negotiations which preceded ed 11 this war In those negotiations sho Insisted upon a 11 mutual engagement en between herself and to respect I tho Independence and territorial Integ Integrity rity of ot till the Chinese and ami Korean empires and also ulso upon n mutual engagement to tf maintain the principle of at equal opportunity for or the thc commerce Industry of oC nil In those countries THE lIlE PEnn Will there ever bo an alliance of o Japan and China tho world o replied the minister from Ja Japan pan pall I dont believe bellevo that t any sane political who understands the actual conditions of ot tho two nations run can suggest such n possibility Tho ho suggestion sll Is either founded on gros or It Is based upon a 11 malicious desire to Injure Japan In the thee eyes e el of ot the tho worM world An alliance between two powers must necessarily be based upon mutual advantage and where could Japan gain strength by an un dill dillam am H offensive and defensive with Chi China Chinn na nn f It Is an c principle cf rt modern political science that tho power which Is to hold weight In tho world must be ahlo not only to defend from outside nations but bUI also to control organize Its people at nt home It must keep order put down rebellions be bc able to cal out Its subjects at nt time to Its support In nil all matters of national nol defense Everyone ono knows China hilla Is not In tn this condition white we wo of ot Japan admire the Chinese people for to I their scholarship clat integrity and other high qualities wo that they are not a I military power and wo question whether they tho will be hp ao so In the ages alIS to come This being tho case caSl there th ro Is no fear of ot any un such aggressive alliance as you suggest and on I bonce henr no yellow peril p aa ns such IlIch a 1 possible alliance has hils been called AN N CHINA What Japan would to see 1110 as to i i t i t ii 8 t Ei ti S SW i i W i 1 I 4 t i i ii i i i i i i i ti i tt i t tj Taka hi Ilia tho lor from lap an to 10 Ilio 1110 o 1 With Mr lr Frank 0 n of tho 1 1 Mows About Ilio 1110 Silla j j linn In tho 1110 Far What Japan from tho 1110 WarNot Ambition l lu Control China t No Peril I oll and 1 Tim Will War Fund ami Tho Country Nol OO Crowded lint not lot 1 for fell Formosa 1 a In 1004 Mow h Japan t 1110 i iiii ii China Chinn continued the minister Is Bhe sho should follow In III her footsteps In 1 utilizing such elements of ot the western civilization OB 01 are suited to 10 her needs ne ds This would lend to the tho development of ot her great Irrea t resources In Industry com commerce merce and trade and Ind In tho develop development ment Japan only wishes to share equally with the tho other powers What we l o need most Is III that the other na lIa lIat t should toke take the tho same position to toward ward China that the tho United States IMS so ably maintained for tor the tho past roll few years That more than anything else would help to tu preserve pence In III the tho far east elst Then Theil you think that china should hold Its present Independent position upon the tho map if ot the world I do the Japanese minister From Irom our standpoint the preservation of ot Chinese Independence or what lias been heon well termed administrative entity en tit of nr the Chinese empire Is mora desirable Is one of oC the for tor which Japan Is contending A di III divided vided Idell China moans peril to Japan and 1 I J sincerely that It would bo oC no lasting advantage to 10 western nation On the tho other hand nn Inde Independent pendent China Chinn with her hN territorial In Integrity unimpaired must ns her enor onor enormous motu resources ate no more and moro de developed prove a n fruitful field lI hl to the commerce and Industry of nil all nations POSITION OF A AlIu Hov lIu about Korea I I asked aRlt I generally replied tl the Jap minister 1 I may that we lIe hope tho same good for Jr Korea I with the Introduction of ot western I stern methods and civilizing influences the tho peace peaceful ful tul development of ot Its ItH resources At Atthe Atthe the same Aume time the world recognizes the tact fact that the near lien I neighborhood of or 1 to Japan the strategic Im Importance of oC Korean territory so RO far tur as the Ih maintenance of ot tin ity of or the naturally give e Japan what t was called In tile tha unit ante antebellum bellum negotiations a Interest In Korea In paying this I do 10 donot not mean that Japan has haH any designs upon Ullon tho Independence and territorial Integrity of or Korea I orca nor any purpose of excluding from Kor J oro n the tho Industries or commerce of other nations noi 1101 hamper ing foreign enterprise In way Ill I mean that Japan cannot with due duc re 10 regard gard to her own safety penult cither er Ir notion nation to Korea I orI or to u II Korea as os a vantage point from which to ho tho Japanese empire But even If It does not nominal nominally ly Iy own oln Korea 1 Ir will she not eventually control It by h her hor pro pre predominance dominance of lit trade and her har ownership of ot tho railroads much ns England con controls rols I Egypt EgyptI 1 I think not replied tho Japanese JR minister Japan has hns not lIot sought ex exclusive IX privileges of nn kind whatever In Korea She docu loel not sok the tho exclusive sive Ie ownership of ot tho railroads Tho arrangements under which the Fusan railroad Is being heln have hll been pub published and they the show shew that Korean rights nrc In the tho minutest par particulars The arrangements lire are I may Inn say 11 far different from those under which tho Eastern has hus been heen constructed As s to other conces COnlIS concessions ono of the moat valuable In Io ren the gold mines In till the northern north rn port part of nt the th empire owned by h nn Ameri Amerl American can and thero Is IR no reason IM son why hy American and European I t i i j Ii IiI rs I shall not have hB their full share In tile tho development of ot Korean cos IO Japan hag hilS moat moal certainly no de lie lieto to pi event such In tl benefits which mu t follow Ih he develop development ment n t of ot Koroa I off RUSSIA IN PAll MAST IUSI In your opinion Mr 11 does doo Russia want llIn t In tho Iho far f That hn t is u II subject concerning which 1 must t speak with reserve rOlen implied the tho minister torn Japan Wo have what wo WI thought of ot Hun designs In tho c t by hy our pl ln I adlon Whether those were well of lit u II policy or the tho In tn of n faction ns III has beun public publicly ly I stated IB III not nol for tor mo mu to nay Sll It IH Is to remember 11 lie I that ac Ill actions the w Will r plainly Indicated tho intention of ot l and oC or Koren We have to Mal deal with facts iut and after to ob 01 obtain tain to I width h 1 I think IH wry very properly moderate und having failed to obtain the Kuwait cil ul the to tho e pro proposals or to any nil other I to a n III in and enduring 1111 P In th east nothing hut but to tu offer opposition to thu tho completion of at h not In Industrial In China and Koren Korell but even en her national JAPANS WAIl WH Hut cnn can Japan ial e the money to 10 carry CrI on a 1 War like Ilk this I n ked Thus for far ilin Ihl has had no I the minister The domestic tto loans were for 0 at II t live times over ter and the estimate e of ot our In Indicate to that t will be he no In our raining funds to carry carr on nn the tho war for some time to W 1 WH have no foreign debt of oC any an Kreut amount and so Sll tar far we WI have made no ef et tort to secure any n large um of money mone abroad nut But will not the war RI Impoverish your people It will undoubtedly Impose I pal heavy hell burdens upon UllOn us ter Ta Ia hut I do not think It can 1011 pos possibly sibly the nation It In III a II war lIr of lit not of 01 aggression und and while the expenditures will no doubt be he enormous I am IUle will willbe willbe be no extravagance ox or 01 s I ln Hint Japan will display great 1 power that after the war wor In I over her position will be he much better hetter financially that It has been In III Inthe the past Hor Hel opportunities for the 11 obstructs oJ development of her com merco and Industry will thereby be Increased 1 At Al nil events It Is evident that JillIon Japan would be he become como come Impoverished If n It d I Korea wIro cra occupied by b in that she pile would be he from rom the fields whore where her Industrial com commerce merce should otherwise have the th best be t chunco for or peaceful development and she would nave to maintain a II state of lit national which In time limp could not fall all to be h a n fatal drain upon her national resources JAPANS WAIt AVAR CHINA What t was the effect of the 1111 ar upon your OUI Industrial and condition ft t I t ti i ih The h war wag Willi fol follower lower by a Il p 1 of lit Union of ot Hi 1111 most noted clurs that as liB In every rr arr of ot prosperity followed by It waves Was of ot depression no HO In III the tho econ leOIl economic olllie of u Japan since the thc tester been heen live 11 or 01 Mich waves Hu lit adds that do not nol necessarily the financial condition of ot the thu coun country try tn A All ha he the of at Ju Jil I fill are Iro varied and In WI Ve have on nn of ot raw lIk and tea ln and valuable mines of ot coal copper and silver Ve We 1110 rich In our water supply and power which may ma be he In the cheapening of ot the tho cost of fit Coal oil WH been found In of the and thu will 1111 is take the place of o coal to tn extent In V j there ale coal cOlli and mines and oil fields while Formosa U la rich In gold Kold goldOn On Oil the th whole who concluded the Japan r i v minister I think our outlook for commercial neld III and Industrial expansion loli la III blight We a me III not rich an compared with the but our re art are ns n u ct t to tt a 0 extent nn 1111 developed Our along modern lines Is a R matter of ot comparatively it I cent hut but within that time the country countr has haM made marvelous What In III the HUe and population of ot Japan I asked The empire contains about 1 l 1000 It U II about four tOUl times us liS laige as RS your of o Ohio Its lotion M liS by h the of ot 1900 1111 NOT A FlOUT lOn That Is moro half ui ue many people RIS II we haw ha In the 1 Status wild I Is I not Japan overcrowded and IH III this war Irot after It nil 11 u II fight for or tel On Japans part most certainly not replied Minister We 10 distinctly that we ore are not con contending tending for territorial n Ihl oven oen If It we vc had not made that sol Mol solemn pledge thele Is 16 no necessity for Cor us Ul to acquire for or our surplus i pop population op illation for tor we hao abundant for 01 that t as Ill U It IK Japan Is and Is not overcrowded continued Mr MI I mean menn by that we havo ha available of oC our own to meet tho of oC out our population although tho I I emigration of or the Japanese is ts not us 1111 yet ot to those parts of lit the tho em empire pire Take ral e Veso eso and Formosa for tor ex The lh Japanese government has hai hasH H endeavored to develop dc the le of ot those tho countries It has hns hasmet met with success but the climate In both hoth has hafl been beon an 1111 obstacle to their thell rapid development and that ea eaI I in Formosa where tho most parts of or tho Island lire are un unhealthful healthful The hl government Is Improving ing 1111 military 1111 f conditions thor there and In time Formosa l will be a desirable of residence for both hoth Japanese and for or Thi h name may be he said of ot Yeso which has ed resources which will a u large population Thero will always s be bo an un outlet for a I part of our surplus on the Asi Asiatic sl atle continent Many Japanese will settle In Korea I ore and In the tho other adja adjacent i cent regions on tho same Urnis ns liB tho ho citizens and subjects of ot other nations nud such settlement will be to the ad nd advantage vantage of the countries as liS our OUI people nie naturally peaceful and 1 H I I t r r rj j j I I I 1 I II I 1 r 01 1 r I I r rt t I II Ir I r t tI 1 I I I IJ i J I t tI 1 I i i v r rt rI rf t 1 I f t tI I II II I I j Ij M t I 4 I I II Ii I i i r i I j l I V I IIII Halt Who IN III h t V the th young educator referred d to In thu tho glen given t 1 I below AS one olle of ut the 1 candidates for 01 the degree of ot Ill Ph 1 D In Cornell 1 I 1 university nt at the next commencement exercises of ot that Institution Is III well J f I I known la In this city having been horn born and roared In this state Though only I j 25 G years of or age ilKI Mr lm h made n record HH 1 a 11 student I Ir Ii tI as nil an un In scientific linen lie n a student In the I D 8 S iI fl 1 college and In the tha State university 10 years Afler Atter graduating from the I if I university with the degree of ot bachelor of o science he was WR engaged for several V f I I i I f Iu years as 1111 teacher In the tha university of ot this city H lIero ro the tho I young professor pursued a lino If tt Investigation In local entomology making i ji 1 j several discoveries of ot species new lieI to the scientific world Upon President Pauls j n commendation he was given Ien a u leave leae of ot absence for Cor two years Immedi Immediately I 1 received a II fellowship In Cornell whorl for the two years ho hI has i 1 pursuing higher hili her work orle with Ith such IlIch success on May In 17 tho Iho News re 1 tho following telegram from t 1 j j Mr Chamberlain I B S SIlt Salt U ke City Is n B candidate for tor tho do tl u I Bree of ot doctor of ot philosophy at ut Cornell university He Is the author of oC a l valuable scientific work called Studies on North American Spiders of ot tha tho thoI Family I of or I the tho best book of ot the tho kind eor published I INo sAy No q n nn Industrious making excellent citizens wherever 1 they tile go IN 1 1901 You speak of o Formosa I Mr Taka him sold I What Is the condition of ot that colony today 1 Formosa I Is rapidly Improving re rEI |