Show EMMA SAYS HElEN tai tt WAS 57 x Declares Mrs Mis Knox Threatened to lo Cut the j Childs Tongue Out With Villi Wih Scissors s sAlso Also AI SOD to th t Kill KII I Her 11 ere f Tho The principal witness call coll d by the defense In iii time Hie Hubbard trial today oday was wu HI II I a Jensen who ho made bade a strong witness for tor Or the lie defense defence She stated that she had repeatedly wen seen lun and ond heard Mrs r Knox coaching Helen as 88 to what teeth testimony mony mon muon she he should give gl ut lt the trial The fhe first witness called caled by 1 Ih the de enc i today toa was wan Wil K B 1 8 S Hubbar a brother of D defendant Ho lt saId sail that he Ime had loomed In the block oft off ot and andon on oil 01 from Mardi March 1900 to tu o May Iny 1 I 1901 On March ho started for tor or California returning April Apri ISIt He lii li testified that Ulton on the lie top of ot the lie wardrobe when he lt went away awo there were wen two tuo bundle bundles if r portion and two caIne calt up Ull to the top tOJ 01 of oC time the tie transom except at time the sides examined these thel when he hue returned from California and I I II said lid he lie was va convinced that limit they the hud had not been ben moved owing tu to the dust on them With Wih ith Mr time the thel of ot the time rooms roams 02 slid and ald M was wal made were ere Mike OMeara O Lew Iel Kelsey Kely Judge Pow ers era William Gundry J I 1 1 Kelfer anti and Jack Juck who has since third died They Thoy took turns urns In iii looking through the tran traum transom soil som and lying on the iut bed and they le found that little or nothing of at the lie bed beil o bd could be bo seen directly but sen anyone sIt Hit ting hag on al the lie beth bell could be een doun dOln Hi to the tho upper part hart of at his hits bream Anyone Anone i ing on tn the lie west et side of or the lil bed d could not be seen at lit oil all 11 by t view nei nel ther timer could anyone be bt mm on the east I tut si l of t the lie bed bwl b by my view 01 HIS tins examination wits was UI made on May Mh nail and 3rd Witness nes also alo said mid that limit four tOUl or live days las previous to title this time he lie and Attorney Lippman made an nn ex of ot the two rooms toms with simi eliot wih lar hat results In lii witness said sid that lint It I had hId not occurred to him to snake make mik any an examination of ot the two rooms till he hail Imd consulted mithi wih Mr tl one clue of oC his brothers attorneys Witness testified that he did not riot know of ot hll lii own knowledge whether anyone could look through the tran ul and anti see D the th bed bell on the or of at April Apri In redirect examination witness said ald that hut supposing the mini arti cbs cles on in the top tOIl 01 of the wardrobe had IUt not been removed on en QI the dates dall named It I would have been Impossible for tor any nn an one COo to Me fe the time b wl bed d In iii II direct view The TIme defense nut next called Kiln 1 Jensen Miss Iss Jensen Jonsen soul mid she was Ws wa a native ot or I and had hiat ha come olne to Salt nale Lake lust last Ja t year She met Mr Mrs fN Knox Sl on Sept Mth lest last lal and went to room rm at her house hou e that bitt evening The Tho second ond time hue she sho went wen to room roam roo I at mit Mrs Ir Knox house was lyRe Wil on April Mr Ir Slater Shafer and Mi Mu h Arnup Arup roomed In the lie house during wit vit second stay there them Witness said wi she met snot Iro In time the Realty block on April She saId Mrs Irs Ilal Law Lav La her lor had hall said ald to lo Mrs lr Knar Knor talking of ot Habbard We Se must convict him or It I will till wi ruin my business Site Fhe also alI heard heird Mt Law Lw tar lam say sn In room 02 2 lIla Ills Hl brother lies has hi been ben here hert mind and Ind changed ld things around Witness also testified tint that Mrs 11 arld Law Iw J ler len had said salti sal that tint Helen Knox mutt must IUs ho he homade li made lade to tl tell a straight story On thu he nIght of ot Saturday April rl th she said that t at lichen Helen was out late Imite Sli She had hid wanted scooted her to KO go 10 out with her and re remarked marked to Mrs ts Knox that It I was very late Into for so young a I girl Irl to a be li out Mrs Knox hall hail remarked that hat sIte she was wan all allright allright right rl ht as aR he sue wa was a up UI In that mans maims mal room meaning Witness lied fled that hat she eli lied had ha on various occasions heard Mrs Irs Knox coaching her hn daugh daughter ter tor what that answers she hp w wee i to give h In Incourt II incourt court She he hearth heard Mrs Knox say to Helen lichen If I you ou dont dOlt quit your lying I J Jwill will cut your tongue tague out with wih the eels scissors sors Sons Witness also alil testified that elms Hie he had henrI hearl Mrs Irs Knox instruct In Helen to so go soto goto o oto to Mr Ir Juh r room and ask hum him hil why wh he had Imad not comp come to take Ilk a room rom there thee She hall had heard Mrs Knox say SA tu to tl lieu lur daughter laurMer You mut mu tell W h lie m stor story to every one aims aie or Ill cut throat I and mine too v to w om and there Huro will one wi be L three of ot us UI dead head of ot This Thil wai wim I said tl In reference to Mr Mc Ir Knox being bing dead She he said Il that bitt on one oue occasion when Irs r Knox whipped Helen she Clip hp had sold said She mu IUt must not nOl is make ma On e we me h out u mm I liar lar asked witness what church Mr he ime be y A to and If she knew what time the ninth commandment was wa Counsel th for Cor the lie defense objected anti and the he objection was sustained You knew Mrs Irs Knox Knot had hal heen train lag Ina this child chil up to tell a lie tain Yea 1 Ye V And Amid you ou were ere willing to stint stand by hy V a ml and amid crime see nee 1 an In Innocent man lan charged with admitted that such Buch was Wi we the ras casi r She fhe also admitted 1 that she hp hal hai said to a I a Mrs lire Chandler thet h was the best bEt witness Chandlr Huh Hub it 1 bard had arid and Ind that there thero wo was wal f 10 00 or A j WOO In It I for COl or her She said alI she Rho had hi 1 M con tilted a I palmist but that t the sIte he h hail had d asked him how much there hero fy N was iss WI In the Hubbard case cal for tor her t You kne v that nn aim Innocent man s wan wap J IAn In jail for tor shout two to months wal 11 jil according i wj to your our statement now and yet et you OU i i Sy r never ald anything queried time the state stute ij JM 1 JM Ye sir answered the tho witness JA 1 Why h you 01 oum go to Powers it anti and I tell tel them I was as sarry sarr for tor Mrs sSt 1 Knox iJ ford fail rI And Anti I why wh did dl you ou tell tel Detective Al 1 S he lie asked ached me Pie I Did Dd not tot Mrs lire Knox tell tel Hel lichen Helen n in tho the pretence Presence of ot Assistant County Count ney le tie Loofbourow anti Deputy Sheriffs Sherl Arnup Anul and Int Sleater Sleter that tha she Rhe must tell cli the truth tel Yes 1 sir Now Nn Miss Jensen Jen n Is It I not flat a fact that hut Mrs 11 Knox whipped Helen lichen twice o V for running away awe awa from froni homo home In tho the A presence of ot Mr Slater Slitter asked ask I Mr Ir In hIs hla most mot impressive man ncr ner nerY Y re Yes sir In rn witness ad admitted thet soap tann ln after the whipping of ot Helen referred to chic Ihl had begun to post past pt hor her on the this evidence she Ibe ws was t to toge give ge The defense next lext called William Gun Quit He t I Ill d with regard to the articles le on an In tin the top till ff rf t the tha wardrobe In ip room mom rm They The looked dost dt and Ind w as II If It they timy hud hAil not nt been b n nw rM ij 1 ri r ra rn a n week NI Witness acId tWit hit l through tIme the transom he could ouI e en the lie heath head and neck of ef th Ind anyone anon sitting en n te west t side of ef the time bed bwl If IC aw ri euw r were tre either sitting nr ar 1 lay In on the lie east IRI plus of ot thc flue bed beI they the oll nut lt bo be h pan ceen at lt till nil ni I Looking In time the mirror ha he could ss p the he southwest t ef rn r of or Iho IIO o bed hl WI ins n not nt Ute sure nf ot the Ute fate hut but th that t It was wal the tho end enl of ot April ANI or the th beginning or May Mn ra At A the I f nf of o the given hen bv Its this witness the court Curt took n a nH H till tl 2 1 The defense nut mit mi on the stand this thin af at afternoon L I h P Ke sey and Ind M r r J 1 Mera who I o along te Pc same linen s as 9 WIlliam hinder that Hist it as I almost Im issi Impossible 11 possible for tor In one oils standing on the te In room i VS in to poo s t o anything ni or orth atthe the th b l In room mm nn on the Bf of tetanus nf of tIme the 2nd nd or nr M ltd of nf May Ma I Irl Mrs rl hureh ChuNh was as th t the P next for forshe lh Ihl she d defense lff nl e hp said Mid that she chic lived nt at 1 west Ht Pe Second vind South street lI where Iho she ho a dressmaking e h ment cat Ff S saul III that nn o n one on H len lied had corn M to 10 her hr piSe pile when Mrs Conic there Fh She rOI was WM eski l that she Ihl Imd hll asked If that m n t WAS Irh nr or lark hargo or smell mull and nd n ii I number climber nf of other nu stion with lh to tn the nets nl tu to t have taken takemi pl t In n teens m nl nl n th list TW lichen n hid had aid al that wm WI Cs th tl the man nian who hat hal given WI I a kolak 15 II |