Show t i PAID AID AGNf I N M OU AT I i Senate Sena te Committee Is Told Fold Palmer Aides Found It ft Coin Convenient at Convention tion to Be I W Sept 24 f Vy K H PI P. P Stewart assistant qt- qt 1 tI t- t I tor torey f er general whose name was Jas I as mentioned led yesterday p before the he senate tc campaign investigating committee in connection th the tho Democratic national nl convention organ at t-Sl t n Francisco and his travel to tp th that t city at expense told tho committee today ho lIe went to tho the Pacific coast In connection with the prosecution of or fraud oases cases He was heard at his own request I We had a number of at shipyard cases In the Northwest Mr Ir sald s1 involving In frauds and frequent ht requests re requests re re- quests camo came from attorney attorneys attorneys' 2 in charge locally for tor assistance I to talked ed It oV over lr with Judge Ames and h ho be decided it was necessary sary for tor me to go go THREE STOPS Tho witness also mentioned ment ed the proceedings proceedings pro pro- s started against John Grunau Gronau of at Chicago leader of ot the switchmen's s 's strike On his trip he said he stopped In Chicago went to Seattle S and later arrived at San Franc Francisco conferring with local attorneys at all three places At San Francisco after clearing up the tho matters in question I took my m- an an- annual I nual rival leave beginning June 25 5 he said and made no charge chargo to the government government govern govern- ment for tor or the period following AIDING PALMER I Chairman Kenyon asked the witness If ff t he saw District Attorney Clyne of at Chicago at the San Francisco convention convention conven conven- tion working for tor Attorney General Palmer I I presume b ho he was said Mr Stew Stew- part art I Chairman Kenyon questioned the i witness as to the number of ot department department department depart depart- ment of ot Justice he saw at I San Francisco at the time of ot tho the Democratic Democratic Democratic Dem Dem- national convention where Attorney General Palmer was a candidate candidate candidate can can- for the Democratic nomination for tor president Mr Stewart replied that a a. Mr air Foster and Ralph Kelly two special agents concerned in the shipyard Investigation at Seattle were there He also saw N. N J. J Neal actIng actIng acting act- act Ing chief of or the bureau of ot tion OTHERS PRESENT RESENT Others l b y the tile witness were John L-asky L district attorney for the District of or Columbia who was a delegat delegate dele- dele Sat gat gate Robert T T. Scott St-ott private secretary secretary secre secre- tar tary to to the attorney general Thomas J. J spellacy an nn attorney general generate gen gen- em eral erate I. I arid and J J. J I 1 1 Crelghton Creighton How many dl district attorneys did you lee ee there asked netted Chairman Ken Ken- yop P. P i VI 1 r kw vv Mr MI Weita Wertz of ot Cleveland said Mr If ff Stewart tc Mr r. r Clyne also and andai ai Merton assistant f at attorney orne gen gen- dI I t Detroit It Is ivory ory difficult fo hi il 1 remember that U MARSHALS M firman Innan Kenyon asked for tor tho the thoDor i nw gat I. I Dor ow jf United States mu- mu marshals hals at- at tet teS J Nr r. r Stewart said he knew lenew onI on of or the southern south south- ern fu York district t. t ti they pay their own on expenses C man n Kenyon asked U ff f P presume they did those who wore were 1 dele delegate the witness replied Neale went with mo me army at m ray re request ye- ye quest air Mr Stewart sai said His Hp H hail lurd Ie I i valuable Information about these i cases In the northern shipyard dis dis- 1 JUNKETING TRIP P. P chief o of the bureau of ot accountants of the department depart- depart I m ment nt of ot agriculture was questioned I about a trip made by Floyd E E. Harrison Harrison Harri Harri- son assistant to tho secretary of or agri agriculture agri- agri I agri-I culture to Chicago o on Juno June 18 and aJi alip to San Francisco at tho the time of I the tho Democratic convention Mr Zap Zap- Zap Zap-I s said ld he be had to pope pone every reason suppose sup Mip- pose that Mr Harbison's lian json's visit to San San I Francisco W was s official I Tho secretary of agriculture the witness said was there I 1 understood I there thore wore several sO agricultural conferences con con- conferences con there I Most of or the conferences were do down n at convention hall weren't tho they asked Senator Reed You are out of or m my realm now said the tho witness My 1 duties are purely purely pure pure- ly fiscal Secretary Meredith Mr Ir said only charged a part of or hid hia San expenses to the d department depart parl- parl I m ment nt SCRIPPS TESTIFIES Robert obert P. P Scripps editor editor of ot tho the Scripps newspapers which he said numbered twenty-one twenty with a circulation circulation lation of oC was wan tho the next witness witness witness wit wit- ness examined Replying to questions he said that his father Cathel E E. C C. C Scripps owned tho the majority stock in the United Press news s service r and he Identified the Newspaper Enterprise a- a association as 88 Rn In n alleged tion Mr Scripps told the committee he had no knowledge of or a letter Jetter written b by Governor Cox urging exemption for tor himself or 01 his brother from tram tho the draft during the World war He III declared declared de do- dared h ho he had bud never ne t heard beard of men uch a until it d In newsy no s er I I accounts of ot the he committees committee's es e's hearings i 3 at t Chicago Mr Scripps said dId that this hia Interest I In the election and that of or his family Cox purely purel public C of Governor was nas R pub interest ESSENTIAL WORK Scripps said aid he was 8 made editorial director of the Scripps publications lions a afew afew afew few weeks after allor th the United d S 'S U res re's s 's entered en- en n- n tho war and that that he was mar mar- ried Think it is more moro Important to do something like this In the Interest in m interest terest than Ulan to go out an and sh urd t l' l a agun agun agun gun asked Senator Kenyon I I do Mr Scripps said Ho He a added that he h had ad withdrawn exemption claims claim after being sent to cump cu p dur- dur the war and expected to tp stay there though I fully knew v an appeal had boon been tAk taken n. n Do UDo you ou remember whether this exemption ex exemption exemption ex- ex emption matter ever er came to the at attention attention M- M on personally of or the president 7 inquired Senator Pomerene Democrat Ohio I do not not Mr Ir Scripps said COX After the witness said he had c m- m responsibility for the editorial policy of or the Scripps newspapers Chairman Kenyon Kenon introduces ll a quantity quantity quantity quan quan- of printed matter on pink sheets sent out by the Newspaper Enterprise Association In sending out these are you carrying carrying car car- on a propaganda anda for Governor Cox asked Senator Kenyon I Yes Tes replied the thc witness Are you receiving an any inn money fey from the Democratic na l national come committee for this this' K t fc None tf d t j t q Q In rr Doing It at your our own expense c as as' as part of or your our c campaign for Governor I Cox f o A That is Js right I y yON ON OLIGARCHY OLIGARCHY I 0 4 Chairman Kenyon read from Crom the pink about the senate oligarchy Wish you Ou would tell us about this this' oligarchy said Senator Reed Democrat Democrat Demo Demo- crat Missouri Most of the newspapers using the term refer to Senators Penrose Smoot Lodge and others Mr Ir ScrIpps re rc re- re plied a wide term term others others said Senator Reed Who do they boss They Thep arc re supposed to boss the tho senate sen sen- ate b m I II I think it means tho they control the Republicans Mr 1 Scripps S continued I I Just want to say that I consider this talk about senate oligarchy Is rot whether It comes from presidential candidates or not said Senator Reed NO CHARGE MADE Questioned by Chairman Kenyon Mr 1 Scripps said aid the pink sheets were going to seventy newspapers and v re remade made up of ot editorial matter i relating elating to the campaign There was no charge made for It Mr Scripps said He said ald the cost was trifling merely that of at atthe the paper paper and the ink Any reason why you ou are rendering this service to Governor Cox Cox rind and the party party Chairman Kenyon Kenon asked Yes want Yes want to see him elected eJected ScrIpps said No uNo personal reason None Governor Cox help you ou to get got out ut of ot the draft during the thc war wear IN CAMP TEN DAYSI DAYS I dont don't know th that t he did dId Pressed as to what knowledge he had lad of ot the tho process by which his brother was ivas exempted he saidI said I did not follow that matter closely I was In camp In-camp camp part of the time time Camp Camp Sheridan How long were you ou In lb camp Senator Sen- Sen ator Edge asked About ten days the tho witness scUd said In his own case Scripps s said both tho the local and district draft boards had refused exemption on occupational grounds rounds but the tho case was appealed to Washington and the exemption granted IVas i iWas I Was Vas It appealed to the president Senator Edge asked I I Yes the witness replied but added that ho he did not know that the president president dent had personally acted in inthe the case only that the war department a au authorities authorities' ati- ati had overruled the district board TRIP I Mr Scripps was wag followed by D Don n C. C Pees an of ot the department of ot justice in charge chargo of ot expense accounts and ind vouchers who o produced certain ex expense ex- ex pense ponso accounts filed b by officials and employee for July and August Two of at them showed that Frank K N assistant attorney general went to San Francisco 1 on government account arriving arriving arriving ar ar- ar- ar riving Juno 20 W and leaving lea July 7 7 Some conference going on In San Sail Francisco about that time district at attorneys attorneys attorneys at- at or others tho the chairman asked I l dont don't know Fees said To further I I questions he said taid that Attorn Attorney e G General General Gen Gen- n-I n I I eral Palmers Palmer's campaign for Cor the Democratic Democratic Demo Demo- Demo I cratic presidential convention was held hd at San Francisco while Mr was there were not in his record OTHERS MAKE TRIP R. R P. P Stewart Stewart another assistant a at attorney attorney at- at t- t torney general genera general also made the trip the tho witness said Did they need two t assistants out there Chairman Kenyon enon I Tho The rosult showed the they needed i imore more than that remarked Senator Reed Chairman Kenyon read from voucher lists names of ot department of or justice who went to San Francisco about the tho same time Mr Montrose listed the chairman said as assistant examiner of ot titles went in a a. Pullman drawing room which cost 57 between Harrisburg and San Francisco Coming CominS back I note that tho Pullman Pull Pullman man charge was Chairman Kenyon Ken Ken- Jenon yon on said Bald Another Another- drawing room Mr 11 Montrose was traveling tra with Attorney General Palmer I 1 un under understand er- er stand Fees explained s 4 BILL IS LARGE LARGE LARGE- Asked for Cor a total of or ill Mr es e's esI traveling tra expenses Fees placed them at I 25 Later ho estimated tho the total vouchers submitted by bv Mr MI Montrose and approved cd at I What Is 18 the total of or lh the money spent on tl hl trip h by Mi Mr h and and Mr Sl St Stewart wart warl including their fare Care and I return Senator Reed asked I il cant can't give that to you until the transportation charges charge have ha been billed to us explained exclusive of ot Give us th amount mount this Chairman Kenyon Kenon said It Is for Mr Fees Fee reported Continuing Fees Fee read R It P. P Stewart art 1046 inclusive of or Pullman and railroad fare I We Ve shall also ask you to furnish the I expense account for the attorney gen i general gen gen- said ald era eral Chairman Kenyon Fees agreed to ascertain whether there thero was one RADICALS ABSENT Mr Kenyon Jeno next read the namo name of or J. J Edgar Hoover special assistant to I Ithe tho the attorney y general genera who Fees said I was in charge of or radical activities I He went to San Francisco on June Juno I 20 the chairman observed ed Was there and outbreak of at radical activities l I there I Fees said the committee should ask Mr Dir Hoover i Youve made some deductions from I his account Chairman Kenyon ob- ob I served The Tho witness explained that the I auditor had found Cound the tips given to toa toa a a. waiter waite I and a a. Pullman porter to be bo excessive c and placed the total allowed Mr Ir Hoover at ir 5 22 I Chairman Kenyon Kenon asked I Fees ces to I brIn bring a a. complete report on all an depart department meat ment of ot Justice attaches who went to to San Francisco last June I TESTIFIES Frank assistant attorney i general In charge of public lands next on the stand said oil 01 land litigation litigation tion involving twenty five cases and I took him to California He I also wanted to go fO Into a case ca c involving ov ln ing ownership of an island off Coronado Coronado Coro- Coro CoroI I nado beach he saidI said I admit candidly that I delayed m my said aid so that I II I could attend the Democratic convention conven conven- I tion Uon I OU On Ott the wa way to San Francisco Neb Neb- I b eker ekr stated he stopped st at Chicago and II Salt Lake City to consult on departmental departmental depart depart- mental matters that needed attention atten atten- tion OFFICIAL BUSINESS All th the time I was was was' In San Francisco Francisco Francisco Fran Fran- cisco I doubt If there thero was a a. da day when I I was not engaged In official business Isaid t I said I did attend the thEl convention convention con con- and worked for Palmer added the name of or Judge I Ames special assistant to Palmer to tho list of ot department attaches who I were at San Francisco Ames voted I for tor Senator Owen for the nomination testified STARS AND STRIPES Joseph Heffernan secretary of the Stars and Stripes next took the stand Senator Reed Inquired whether any effort had been made to wrest control control control con con- of ot the newspaper from Crom its present pros pros- ent owners Heffernan said constant efforts were made to prevent the success success success suc suc- cess of ot the paper papel He said Secretary of War Baker Bater was used as the instrument in instrument instrument in- in strument to prevent ent the use of th the name name Start Stars and Stripes Leaders of ot the tho American legion and particularly Theodore Roosevelt Jr tried to get control of or the paper Heffernan de- de de lared INVOLVES DUPONTS He said ald Richard H. H Waldo an em em- I em-I of or The Th Duponts tried to get the papers paper's owners to sell Heffernan didn't know which branch of or the DuPont DuPont DuPont Du- Du I Pont family Waldo Taldo represented but said gald he understood those for tor whom j Waldo spoke were wre interested in foreign foreign for tor- I eign language newspapers in the I United State Stat j Waldo AValdo told us if It wo didn't sell seB we we wouldn't last six months and d that the I big interests would not pot let us have ng Heffernan stated and added that the paper id is unable to to get get el j i advertising Heffernon demanded that i Senator Edge New Jersey retire from flom the committee while he e testified ACCUSES EDGE I lIe He is sitting here her both as jud judge i f fand and prosecutor said Hc Heffernan Cernan I I I have information that T mator Edge j jIs I Is in on the tin the plan to wreck our paper i and has been in consultation with I those who are concerned in the plan against us us I j Heffernan named of ot the I I American legion weekly as having ha I been called and to told d of the plan to i I wreck the Stars and |