| Show i t js s 's s m in in Prison rison i.-rison L el I n I of Candidacy Can 1 liar or the W White ife H House ous for Presidency Pl Plans ns HN No Active Cami Cam Cam- i n i but Gives s His Views on the Political Political Situation of Today I 1 x Ga May ray 14 The 14 The International al News New's Service pre pre pre- ro re the first interview with Eugene V V. V Debs flab nominee of 0 l party arty for president l t of the United States and a prisoner prison r nta anta federal prison I of the department of justi justice e permission was representative of the tho International News Service to visit i iii prison rison where he i is serving ug a a sentence of ten years ten years for itt rances in prison clothes of faded de denim l with wit a number to 9 as as convict 2253 was vas talking as a a. a cand candidate date for I republic ap of iuis-of the circumstances I ar-I h ha he a jfe estly precisely with n now w i t A Kj flash of humor of the is- is f presidential campaign Jv view r sew was for thirty minus min min- w us ras held under under- the eye of t. t rd 4 F n THOUGHT Ilet party said Mr Mr- I ebs J I l this hb year ear to men wro 1 t circumstances sur- sur average man will wUl lead hi him him n J fold fald through s sheer e r I both the older political par par- par par- J aU our divisions and in- in l rt bles tiles has cOne come good for forI i are unified and our re process whIch the theban then I ban n can understand and dl- dl diJ think the people would be bers rs J f kJ ie hi a a. statement from me ry Interest Is In finding mediums through which n press ress ess their distrust and dis- dis with the Democratic and parties WH WILSON SON f n not t but distrust the stand eat ent on the league of ot rn rna rna- 9 is 18 Mr l Wilsons Wilson's letter to j sa saying ing they must treaty of Versailles s. s as It fc ith the league of nations Al he wants the death of ox his of the treaty treaty treaty-of of without reservations Is so Bible sible that the proposal inc In- In c rity fen bf Versailles never mus- mus i onty rity vote In the senate and hj Senator James A A. Reed stand of Mr 1 Wilson approval of of the thea a the destruction the of ot the of-the the party ru There Is no doubt all ti OTHER OTHER PARTIES h both both of the big political Ito be very andton and lon iloa ton both poth will be bolted son will prove piove a very un- un bedfellow to S Senator Hen- Hen dge and vc vice versa On ori r side there are are also working ft working against reaction Button watton iii atlon In Georgia Indicates Ithe the people are making making themselves I he heard rd HOOVER AND PALMER PJ I do not think name Hoovers Hoovers Hoover's wilbe will wil willbe be mentioned at either convention and Mr Palmer has no po strength The alarmist st reports and red raids of Mr Mn Palmer and his failure to to appeal the thed d decision cIslo 1 of the lower c courts urta which granted acres of pit oil lands to ith the Southern Pacific railroad valued railroad valued at has killed has killed off whatever chances he might have had In Jn settlement settlement set- set nt of ot the packers' packers case has also placed him In bad odor with the peo peo- pie OLD PARTIES Both of ot the old are are re There is no fundamental differences differences dif dif- between the Republicans and the theD Democrats Both re Both tere wings of the same bird of prey T The e Republican was once red was a Now how he Is defiled But Lincola Lin Lin- o cola coin would not belong to the Republican Republic- Republic an party of today any mo more than Thomas m Jefferson would consent to be i come a member of the Democratic party party par party par par- ty now In the saddle PERSONAL BELIEFS Per Personally lY I am a ar I I haye al always ays be been n one My only fear tear has I a been that I might not be radical rad ical leal enough In my own party I al always always al- al I wa ways s 's lead the minority but I hope to lead a united Socialist party to the polls this fall They are fighting within within within with with- in my own party today It is a a. a good healthy sign the radicals keep the conservatives con con- from giving away too much to popularize arize the movement That is what killed the Populist party The leaders leaders- sought leaders sought to popularize its Us political political Ical p by pandering to more conservative elements They lost the radical support of their party which became the Socialist party and naturally naturally naturally ally the conservatives had no further use for them To b begin gin to placate your enemies is to Invite decay decal POSITION IN CAMPAIGN When Mr Debs was questioned as to how J he would conduct t his campaign campaign cam cam- he laugh d aI said I 1 will be a a. candidate at home in re re- re- re It will wUl be much less tire some and my mana managers rs and opponents can alwa always s 's locate m meThis me This Is s different from the time wh when n nI I was campaigning was throughout the country followed by detectives and expecting ex ex- heaven yen know what Now I am always in My present location is forthe for forthe forthe the next nine years PARDON POSSIBILITY It was suggested th that possibly he would not serve erve out his entire term erm and that a general amnesty to wartime wartime wartime war war- time prisoners or even a a. special pardon pardon par par- don in his case would come to free tree him I ta m a. a Blessed Blessed are are they Ile said who expects expects expects ex ex- I nothing for tor they will wUl not be t dis- dis appointed I I am a a. tr traitor no doubt In the eyes of Attorney General General Palmer and nd the I department e art ent of ju justice tic and perhaps some q pf of the American people But the words Thou not kill kUl mean to tome me what they say I r would not kl kift in defense of defense of my own life and cert certainly certain certain- tri ly wo would ld riol hire someone someone else RAPS jiON SO SOCIALISTS As for the German German I condemn condemn condemn con con- them just as strongly as I doI do I capitalist n they surrendered their principles and Joined the movement to too crush the c world orld Principles mean mean something to me 1 I I am against war and I would go goto to the gallows without gallows without the slightest qualm of ot tear fear preaching my opposition to war HEALTH IS GOOD This terminated the Interview Convict Convict Con vict 2253 2263 candidate for the presidency of the United States walked away with the guard a tall lithe and nd vigorous old man Prison life has hs b been n good forthe for forthe forthe the health of Debs The calm and se serene serene se- se rene living within the big walls wails has given him the opportunity for re axa axa- to Co nand rest from strain that he never found In m his hie old life of ot vigorous em em- emphatic emphatic violent experience f |
