| Show COMPULSORY V TION Burning Subject Before Legislative Health Committees ANOThER ME IINO roDY Y 1011 Lively 1111 Scenes ald mud nl huh foll The quIon question ot of compulsory lon now before tor the Senate Senale And house our health I is by otte odds the most interesting that the era r hue hive In sand hand Tue Th b be tore fore tIme the committee this afternoon Droll Ie to b be no I lees than thO thus ot of yesterday Q a ver very LUll synopsis of which I ii toa today Published In the News New I on ot of tIle the mAn inquiries and Ha attaching I IIAN the IUn meeting was for tor the ot of considering the bi bill intro uce b by RepresentatIve ot of Salt Lake relieving Ile Iii schools mitt tle the vaccination Quite I a lare large number of at people pl who caine In 11 all capacity lt sat on the vl vist tur tors benches bench And the medical lion sion was represented by Dr Dr T l 11 lUy McLean R E 8 0 J 1 F J S and George it E ali and S B 1 ii Alen Alien ot of Sena Senator tor the meeting to order ald and ILI JJr Dr Daty t lOle to the Platform an and address the In lag rite rhe doctor hail had it a tl Ht UI on th the which he pro t eed to read I IL had hati ben been carefully ond and has ben been published In the Now News Before It tile dolor doctor informed the meeting that I it Wilt wits fur tor a I It wal vats a que question ton ot of grave rave to th men Iuen and children ot of Utah th In HIl the hands ot of the rete rested the health anti It was largely luly Public RII I Wi therefore Incumbent on them to give the later matter and conscientious consideration a as any amy bi bill they might enact stand stanel for two years tar In which time the State might be devastated by When the dotor doctor canto to the part of oC his hll discourse referring to the preparation ton tion ot of vaccine lie hi stid the healthy cal calf calfas as 8 with lymph w 1 filch hal had through infinitely careful tel teats II lie was Interrupted by Blod ot of Jale who tho stated that he had n 0 cow which died of at sancer utter Using being wih with smallpox virus Iru aitu cut open Ollen ater after Is its death pre proved to b be one immense cancerous growth I lie wanted to know what would have It if vaccine hal had been from this cow The Tue dotur doctor replied that fm I it would not have the disease tn In talking ot of vaccination Dr l aty that It if It be I performed there would not he be any Imy lan dan r Ther There might bl be germs un on the sLit or on the tho instrument but tl us for tor forthe the lelUr I it Was JUt up UI In sealed lull tubes and wal wais absolutely vure Dr neal asserted that 1 tt IMP In developed a cas case ot of lt that hI Its then had ni nil ot of the other memo WI bets of hl his vaccinated anti and ot of thin had taken the disease I Dr lety continued We Vs are arc by I a serious Before you act In n a manner manlier Which would restrict the powers of men wIno who are ole alive to 10 the situation You a Iny say that the thu that Ile itle val vails In Utah Is not smallpox melpo We Cm can prove ro that Ils it Is I make th the PredictIon here that It if the power 1 it removed front from fromI Jowe I tIE ot of restricting the dlen disease anti stamp stamping ing I it out we wi will return to the tho abl able condition our ancestors were In n a century oR ago 0 OF Il lIe 1111 said Dr Wright show that cl eases ut of blindness hat had resulted In this city from smallpox Mr hull asked that lie he cie cite some of at Ce CUtS Dr Wright right replied that the they nere a 1 matter lEr of tor record Oe Ole of Laid cited a case a ot of otA ofa A young Ind lady In that town tOWI who is II suf suffering ut fering rota 1 a case aa of the Physicians there can cannot nut flit flita a name for tor ami which he believed to tobe tobe be the result ot of vaccination le lie ull also of In iii his own tamly famIly ni all of whom been Oni Onh was taken with pneumonia eight aCar alter and the bal baby Ilc tiled of Ile some something thing el else l whIch the doctor locI or I hI was a claimed dil duo to vaccinatIon Its He that vaccination culo caused the doth death of at athi hi his child OlT OUT OF DA DATE T Seth A ot of Logan aske asked I If the board n ot of health UMI used pure PUN aceino or tok took I it from the arms Arma ot of vane otherl Time The doctor ehl said that the lat latter latter ter custom hail had out ot of date dat tS B TO D PURITY Mr Ir lul hull asked I if II the and tim th doctor was guarAnte guaranteed PUI pure dotor a replied that I It practically WI was a as It Ita was a manufactured unter under conditions that assured Is Its purity TilE CASE Thoma Thomas 1 L to I ft from which M be had Rf af after ter vaccination and showed photo photographs graphs which had been of oC hil his chest chelt and back while In a state lat of at R an ful eruption le lie had been rl b by Dr Dom DI Dr Mayo and others saw the ard arms and nud pronounced I it ita 8 a vaccination A month I later laler water blister appeared which spread tl till theY covEred his lii bor body Dr Critchlow looking at the said Mid It had the ot of R a Cu Ca of Manila itch with Which h he lund b be become come familiar In Th Bi Salt Lake Medical society had bad pronounced le RH ease I a peculiar cular of one Mr amid Id that Dr Mayo aro hal had said Nid that It was dime to vaccination but yot yi I 1 Ill d doctorS mot at him and talked him over our tor Mr It lr said hi these bus bUI tl still tl occasionally aPr appear The pho a loel terrible cn comm vigor an ansi r commented upon with OI GETS Ir Ir Wright right desired to address the committee as al I lie wished to I e short l and was recognised by the char n 11 said I I al sin honor honored 1 by be In the ot fUI fume YOI 55 It cal cause Ild and At this point a smile mt want round anti ami lI lie looked at Mr tr lul hull nd tok took Or tire In his hll linger at t hll ht he In I 1 want no DO Cnn trout you I will 1 not submit o r uan I think you ou ought to be sUp Mr to the chair de denied nied ar having made mado an any what er delAr declared Mr Ir 1 hull hil II hel That to the lIt cm mi mutes tRek tack for against this It at attack OUT our OF Ir Dr wal was rul ruled ot out ot of one ceder and resumed I 11 sid saId I it was H hardly worth lle In tl the t ot of on th the part rt ot of Ime some ot of I II the I against hla hia views This brugh Tn Pander er rn and I ant and I indignantly to their reet Th The dUl dUll eulY culty ended In Dr Wright withdrawing hi his offensive he proceeded with his discourse I consisted of oC a declaration that lie he and I other dotor doctor w wets sincere an anti or of his opinion II as to th the efFicacy ot of vaccination a as a a ot of 11 smallpox TI The next Was wa between He And Dr The former had uk asked the dotor doctor to tolY lY say why fh It Wa Was that had moi lied the law on compulsory vaccination Ir r Itty of In inquired whether a to that would hate hae an any w weight wih with Mr Ir W Williams I mi who to the chair tl thit t tb the dOCtor Wa was throwIng a as on the committee Dr Beatty then his remark and explained that In th the compulsory I believed that vaccination would be become crne come more general It if left to th the people who would prefer I it tl ti going into Inlo Court to object to I it Til This blet belIef ho he saM ad had 11 Alen Allen and of at Pro Provo both ga gave their testimony AS to the of lice vaccination In their private pro DR Dr J 1 S 8 made 1 a vl very tern an mini pointed df Hi 10 favor tor of 1 II Jen tier ir one of at the greatest to the rc race On interrogation lon lie he all ad tine the ot of the came u ot of Mr and all also ot of th the child at Iehl haing having reule resulted froth vaccInation although h he would not say h lie the they did lie He showed that titers there wore occasional bad results train chloroform and but th they Were er no ineRt against th the UNe M ot of these agents In medIcine and he would the IRle reasoning mu K to occasional alleged bad vaccination It WM wait bd ht he saul a operation and ni nil Ilch such operations were welo attended wIth danger hut but In slow ot of their Mme umber number I it be n mm strange thing I if there WA was not occasional bal bad reBul results SI J I II Parry Parr of at the Ant Anti Compulsory dreW attention to the pint point that while all I the doctors had spoken lIk on the of nOle none ot of thorn them had shown vh I it bt b compulsory The pint point In queston question was whY healthy children should be excluded from the echol SChools and andal andas al as Mr fr Stewart had inquired If vac vae were immune why should other children be exclude excluded when there was no danger r to the vac no Dr answer wal was that it II for tor the greatest od to the IS greatest number nail that I it should Ito ho token taken out ot of the of to their children to the contagion lt of smallpox when medIcal science had shown hown that vaccination way tas n a sure pro pre preen en te DISCUSSION GETS ST The ho committee reume resumed Is Its prole proceed Ings after the ot of the yesterday at afternoon Time The session was devoted to to the tho champions ot of the themselves In lesure measure who presented large number The and lur earS wih with which they set forth their Ide of the question indicated d that their wee were very ery strong on the matter maUer AmI that they had given the thu subject loo long ant and careful catul consideration MIt m BROWN OF Die Tle first one to the commit committee tee was Mr lr of lehl who stated that hi his wie wife had been vaccinated some Home years ago which reule resulted In pr pro during 3 a ver very sore lore throat The doc doctor lor said that she he had smallpox In tho ho throat and that I It would develop Into chronIc quinsy The he statement ot of the doctor was corret correct she had suffered from quinsy ever since and had never been bien know to have hud had It prior to her vaccInation lucI Mr tr Irown Drown cited nn an In instance stance ot of ton 1 ft tAmly family II iii Lehl Lehi who had the smallpox and the one member ot of the family who had been beon vaccinated mad had th the worst cIse case Jo Ito nl also told of oC 1 a young lady of Lehi wIno who had ben been vaccinated and wal wes how OW suffering In n a terrible the effects of at it manner rota I LEILI TESTIMONY John Worthen of at Iehl WAS the next le lie proceeded along the tho same me lines ns as Mr r Brown contending that II is injurious lud and citing nu numerous ca eases one being In hI his own family where con tAmlY the disease Il Its further at that 9 96 per Ir lent cent ot of the people of oC Lelii Ihl would rather bave ther their children tAke the smallpox than bo be subjected to vaccination Il lIe thought that that Alone WI ts n ii strong testimony against H its el CIC cacy or as aM to ts its evi evil effects TAU S Oerle George Webb ot of Lelii secured euret the next hearing lie said ll that he wu was the father ot of the young l lady dy alluded to b by Mr fr Drown and lie he explained to tine committee In detail ninny any of the In injuries Jurie juries she zhe hid hasi luhne sustained ns as the result or of her vaccination le lie sId said that every organ oran In her hor body had ben been to extent settle to n ft very er VI degle degree H He te argued In behalf of the school schoolchildren children of his mis town town saying that ther there were sere 10 1200 of them and since the order lt if the board ur of health hAo hail been 11 tor Iol forced 1 0 pr pet cent nt ar are attending l nUnE Mr nO floss ot of Lehi Ihl stated that he ob objected Jete to more mor on en account than for tor other ot of the impute lymph any run reason although he wa was nt not In accord with lh the proposItion ICA 4 hearing was given nu h halll situ Flood of who cited nu instances vaccination her lied had an injurious effect Ind and whee where It had not prevented the contracting ot of the disease Mr r Dod denounce denounced the rule of the health board a un a rd raid Upon tle school hol children ot of the com MIt lt CLAIMS WIlam of the CouI was a her herInK hear hearing InK ing lie He laid seid that hil his mother had been boen boena beena a practicing In London for Cor year that she hall al alt of her chIldren bat tl two IWO vaccinated and fe live of oC them bit died two al am the result of dt anti and Ibre three train he hetO tO tat who had neer been n had contracted time the grandfather II va vaccinated disease Ills c 11 seven ven tm times and died of small smallpox mal pox lie said il that the children ol at John JohnI lt I Val In the Sixteenth ward were very pick Ick al as th the mul ot of vaccination I so tam far a as h he was wal con Me he tak up his hla and quit the State before he would subject hi his children tb to the operation Daniel made al aim abe able that the gence ot of the lt n was U not a aim to the or of vaccInation but u as to whether tb the shall hal have the Ibe right to c for tor late whether le he shall w be oce DI DIP VIEWS Dr Douglas mad on one of tIn Ih strong tt eat I 11 H th thi aD ami side lid that I it 8 mutt I a question u sa to tie the value ot of but h is I it ot of At seW cleat value to make mak I it le lie thought that the physicians were 1 lion hon honorable men who sincere In tn Ill but bat the elUn should Mould hap have th the riGht t te accept or of tle the treatment lt lot lotIn tl In Dr Ut paper Nd read before the Medical Society on pr dar tf charging the News with the responsibility ot of molding the public sentiment against vaccination a Dr avowed that the 1 was al the only paper tha that had shown hown 1 a disposition to b be fair on the le lIe In closing I It iii 18 nt not the us ot of vaccinatIon that the ppl are op to but Is its abuse They want to exorcise le the rome In reo re to vaccination as al 1 is accorded them In m morphine or chloroform OPINIONS Mr Ir Silver red read tIne the recent ament amend I law In to the English lt 1991 cle called the Scruple Scruples act giving to the individual the opton option or of or refusing to b be acl N Y then relan rent an loll Jon ot of UI the Dr Milton llon I 11 lol forcefully against saud ace nation Mr Ir resented th the In m do by the dotor doctors that the Clon people ate to too ignorant to pat judgment upon time the mator Thomas Thoma lul huh read a Petition trl ft mal muss meeting of oC Citizens hell held In this cHy evening asking the thet t to pass immedIately sortie Jom measure agaInst rae ac I a condition pree prec dent to attending school or orun un any other public place Mr tr Hul Hull then mate made an argument In favor Cavor of at such I a DD DID NOT OT m Fran I Penrose then presented the following nal ot of persons who had leen been vaccinated and subsequently con the he smallpox if e A Cahoon at the Tribune Mike Mikesell ke 81 sell N lint First Vest eight of at David Camerons farny family 1 S Eleventh East his daughter would ft flot submit io o vaccInation ant anti Is the only one In the tamly family who Ms has nt not had smallpox Lin McGee Us 1464 S 1 State street MIl Miss Durton daughter daughter tC of It H T Button Durton teacher In the public Luis Louis Watson Fifth South Bouth between ThIril and Fourth West thre three children ot of Mrs Irl Smith South between Third and Fourth Wet Orson Knapps two tO tOn Finns n 37 west Fourth South Mr Mrs lor 4 south Third Wet West Miss 0 McDonalds Court slaughter doughIer ot of George I II Vin Vine DIS eat east Second South famIly ot of U D n II Ferguson 96 Ave lone none vaccinated al all took smallpox but a little daughter who wih with the mother al all the Ure time Joseph Parr lt of the League made an argument that sanitation an anti isolation were wre the only reasonable pre preventives of at smallpox le lie rend read n a rl report ort from General McArthur who Is In the stating that out of an army of GOO soldiers who are arc vaccinated frequently 40 of at them were stricken wih with smallpox and o deaths from the disease wee were 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