Show PERRIS ON UTAH Arr AF rAinS AIRS learning Ic arning that mr ir fred fled T perri perm it business manager of the salt sail ulo lale was m i new york the aora 8 reporter interviewed lini him on oil tho the chief points of our situation the first subject brought out is in Jill 19 KRAY reporter ik mr perris what is the telling filing ng imong the people gene rolv liv in utah I 1 ng the stand taken by judge mckean mr parria there has hwn ft a vrr very s better s a s upon lh ill judge atu i 1 y b by ib czek rima n d not I 1 ho hu has said or dooe done Ally bl out tido tile tho uno no of agh his bu dot antti but because of inn 14 d termination to bo be guill by t the b law As it stands and ba by bakh MIX tio it bound c athla ili firine liu ham anor kl ed the ut an opportunity for the ali glut public mind of f borgs them themselves selve dud obtaining ono alone notoriety Doto it iho alili f object of on the pat part of the ll 11 mr P VM irs sit ir but marital lit is iso to very arious attacks epou hu his personal character and the iho ho he has in a view through the course coord ho he porticos by oron orson son eraitt john taylor end others in their public and in the iho mormon press lint scotti I 1 I 1 these Oft lemle have been tuno little in nl 4 again ettin and ruch live lave two ia exl 1 towards them as u admed beat calculated to in cootie cjan the people them 11 I 1 if taij y us simply dimply doing tho the dulin pertaining to their ollif in accord lince with tile tho laws IRV which govern them why li is there jhc thc ru uch such in outcry against them Mr PADy or any other person of lating opposition to or doings of any ny le alling mormon will oner ner bo be considered by the mass IURU or of the mormon otheir copla 1 u m persecuting them simply because 0 or thair religion ligion pr and as you kf are aware thoa them who feel oat blixt they tire persecuted for religions reli giona uke aske am aro always exceedingly bitter against the thom nho ho am re bell believed eved to bo be persecuting them perris expresses the views of the in the following OPINION OV or TER smi SM trial reporter Is I 1 tile the excitement unusually unequally strong now arp but what I 1 may call an till of bitter ming the belief it 1 I 1 think that the government Is about to grapple with tho the existing opposition to it and it with wita polygamy as u it hai but never heer dono done be foro fore it tho the government determine to finish the work now dow well armin would there in youir opinion be an outbreak I 1 t 0 apt sir P xo no I 1 ilont dont think khlok would be brigham young is too hes heavily akly and engaged in railways and in 10 the me accumulation of other property properly to lo permit an 10 outbreak and he will by rod and by bt place polygon ly in abeyance for ft a timo lima atler then nirce his lu business plans to be b interfered with it why do you judge of liui ila course in blui ahm WM WIT ar P lio bm alway lim bim alf sell to the ineita ble for jio kiil my ass 0 d u io I 1 long ong as possible posa itlo thua then when its im cam a a mi manty he h admi it WM was just juit what ho he emitt a lust just what all his people then when hu him power pia V and d j lic were unquestioned ait tho the gen life mor merchants chants were seeking becking op E D I 1 sell out their stocks at a lose rat rather or than risk n remaining for Brig brighams hams courso cotino had flod thorn theta that such VM vas their wewt plan dut but now when it il ui a felt they will mil be protected and oat that any unjust with kith them wal mil bo be punished shod tho the try cry ui in come ovir to us ir and eunishos Euni help 1 p doop clr a conn coa try atry in Sp ealing of the 1 moral I sew 4 of the mormon people in rc relation lation to the peculiar institution our business manager does them hem nothing more than simple justice in answer to the reporters reporter 9 question as to whether the tha feeling in favor of polygamy is ia as aa strong bistrong now is as eer before air arris said with aith nearly all tho the leaders and tho the ollar M it in but their childen chil dnn at lie anil female it I 1 not my enables enable mo me to say ay positively that pod s ill more mom distasteful to th abe a respectable young win men and women of tho the mormon community than ot carn oil to the world R barcia ia il ft dat tion how for them I 1 ia nothing in Mormon tul I 1 concerning which there is IR ft a more er roamed bulice among tho amo As aj to the murmon mormon estimate of poly it u m not on entered te upon ly by tho the nit vastel body of Alra lons as ft a means of indulgence many very many who have now ft a plurality of maca took more than ono only by sacrificing their bolter better fue linge to what hal had been 8 epou thorn them As ft a religious duty they we mado to that a man who biad no not mcf more than ono one wife wait wa weak in tile he faith and lacked proper destro to build vp lip tile tho church of latter day baiato 1 R now in m it with brigham ighani Br vonne mr r young did not become 6 plaid it HUT do I 1 believe that lie be enforced su lyall OD hu but subjects lamply for tho the I 1 m fulgiam dult cEic of the alow it WM wall dif fant with could not control coutros his ond and stio prec faced pol eal a vori before ho he the lie inkling cfall it the ahn bouldin duty cfall of all good M in fact tb the belief is ii common among tho the moro more intelligent cormons mormons that jolls canal rias tons were tho the baue of tho the I 1 eions ich brigham it is dinc reut with hirn him LH you have intimated it in IH more a matter of mormon statesmanship ile ho is i S shrewd mau rather than I ft fanatic awl bouts louts upon iton 1 Z up p of a power in tho the state I 1 rather hir than of to t the of bid hi F A description of him MH that ho Is leu bests sensual than ahm many ito ho in id now BOW react V 71 I 1 years old rod and is il evl pre norred rv t d ho I 1 bolicke bolic lica te almo to poly polygamy n alse char hintt mccaue u ho he thinks it at wit will ho he more gr rapidly 11 build tip tho the mormon and co y became I 1 two tends to isolate theall who P i it arom the outer world loope them ari 7 together aid d thereby renders hin him power moro more grella alu and that if the polyp poly inato did oot not exist E R what LB 16 tl the belief of tb the people as to tho oto PrO course of the th government in ro tattoo to my mr P tim the are a as to whether tho the goTt hh has to detroy Polygamy cr not and are ro somewhat adelin to fort foel that tho this cry is 1 rather the wort aorl partly peri lonfy and they have COMO to 1 luk 11 1 upon poly puny M right abo lw law of thorer laving having it letb a enforced it II 11 hut hat do you think would have been tho the result hul had tile law ft a allty of wives been enforced enro rod as soon As gur H 1 beanie a if tho the law hail had uen en forcel when 1 here would have ham two been nothing of polygamy in aa etab to city I 1 km am sure there would col 0 o R irvi i lilt hit in your opinion on will bo W tile die remit of with will it now P mr P ti is doomed ictor the with it or not the al me railroad doomed it ly by bringing tho the into continual contact with t iho he tion gon thili and making them familiar vir with ith thew ideas and habits 28 it for fosi forror r or live years cau call only courish in com colo plate isolation JL IL nt ha IN the ir ahng in relation ro laton to tile dil ration or of tho the X poly ginilo pr 0 adi l the abo government nhonh on d not dot te w with 11 it mr P pol arby diw the in my any cue with wilb the file pashing away a of the th of clr church and 1 I do not think thoro there is any need of f the government to alko a moun mountaha tala of t a mol bill brou trou its lixi reached utah and polygamy ln in si sp cating ealing of the aisters ti and rin tina to tile public movements which they have mado made to austain the peculiar by mills mams meetings meeting and a n d petitions to Con congress greag 3 sir r perris sa kaid id they are generalli general lj subject to what may ho he 9 foral lead isid ty by the older woman those who an child lisit tua 4 tho the others who ciu entirely tb go fo a boat of oil the a of bolter women n alk to t ibm mow 1 I upon tecal tho the U u a I 1 can duty t even amry to their beir I 1 tion get et t to ian sign favors lu all it its I 1 favor 1 r a tad if I 1 they t three ha n to 10 ex t ill hem 1 m u bavine an bacomo rem 1 war in the th faith tbt h atio Is if I 1 wy an appear acco of um ty la in avor 0 of it is untamed ait AID A ID TUN TOT orri CULB IZ wb t of mr IT rif neat tat to hava bg polygamy legalized to a 4 ghou dato data and adi thou dave so more of it mr P amr mr hoopert Hoo peri idea is i to havo have rib daido 4 and it I 1 abe I 1 p lon in ID rotation to polygamy trials from fromal ut besim but lot utah bC beconi a fital aad you have hatt brigetta tta young as iw its governor GoTera or aad the rule again icooper to ti not a po y inist dot does not taccle tutor it COT does dot I 1 ho be evly fa behave talt to it bat ut be h is B trail by I 1 drip am ire ha I 1 is roq man made lu lim wealth ith in utah and fi f I bound to arv who brig ato bad tot followed 14 liim if art would have ant wry very different in uth n now 0 W dot at aa u can n r d e he uko adelco vice it donld 0 id a change of lt ott r icso 0 of any 1 benefit fl now hf ino it matters matter not what offiel officials ciali 14 co M oon 0 n M I 1 they arl interfere with tho 30 Gribo of tho 1 P 1 it there liters ou they it will I 1 N rank a sod AS far as bg be treated As such E R gift I 1 ij tile lip most moat tie loite finito charge indio against budro Mell call ahr if r P tie it is ch M with ill ning 31 sto thodi brid it fand with iq letting hilj fo elings with ida hia dutiel but bill there la a no foundation for tho charge q hey say ray also that 10 in I 1 indic tim bud and tile same charge is made do agal amkin but neither tile one nor me the he of ottiar I 1 li la answerable to the charges 0 xa o mor M T arthem lime have been reports to alto bo 1 that hat tile iho reimal of 1 iho be Morn cormons mormons ions to tho the sandwich alanda Is ij abor any ny foundation for that nt t I 1 mr r P nono whatever it is in all mcm talk the poo not 1 and brigham is now to t think thin it of f SULU in h A thing filing rare R it are the alo people really realia if to pre tent nt in visit V 31 sir r P no 0 o they think tile tho government at wellington mil dt not tho in unit and that is tile wry reason tile tho cov should CITO them to iov t iun 1 I abat they kao hall to expect aitio or I 1 n whit is fa ahn Ito of tile the gout I 1 1 linw I 1 A 0 I 1 mr life P liaro hire no voice tofa in tho the municipal alsalm or salt bait lot oily rm tle and lica mcanly rily tho the saloons i pt by iy ay am taxed S per month while their proprietor have haro no voice in public jl bloor w I 1 it ax to the reported fi lightening may asay of capital through alio lie present move all tit mr rit pit r P it is u nilo nado more liters lo 10 d create in an inter wit rat at tho the emt east than for u tiling filing else capital lias has not been frightened away tile mining a beresto are farck of course not affect affected by tile tho movement st at nil all dott z A 4 I 1 1 I in it ft tl ml bid abst coill bi ita mr v fare a revelation 1 lum m to do anay ny W ill po lcy mr arp r no if lio alon anav flath it for ft a tuna bine he bo will not make any ofa of rett ii lation lio ito imal ill not it uw any dodi ho ill A ill dl u my bluit alio ig in the tin I 1 hit their still lo bo 10 l o tried and an that tha te the zia lord will surely bo be v till ith them in tile end 11 ithon von do not dot then anticipate any 0 cloter or ong even tho the government lovern ment dotch rates upon the entire of 0 the poly dimic ga 1 mr P I 1 donot do not andhor and for alia very cogent ammo reasons s named |