Show I 1 MORE FIRE TESTIMONY progress in the inquiry of the commission I 1 MAYOR MAYOK STATES HIS OPINION gives an account of 0 what he HB saw at tho the fire capt cant donnell expresses views ironi from the insurance standpoint d declines to state his opinion of chief devines work firemen to testify tonight two NOW new police sergeants appointed and confirmed I 1 the th investigation which blitch has been in pi ogress in the police and fire commission for the past two or three meet lingg concerning the scott acott auer bach ilia hie was again taken up ilat night in the regular semimonthly semi serril monthly meeting of 0 the board in the two hour session much ground was gone over among the matters considered was that of 0 capt workman ot of hose ma amson gon no 1 who Is accused ot of be bring being ing intoxicated on in the night of oc the big fire from the tenor of 0 the remarks dropped by Commissioners dininny and giant it Is highly probable that capt man vi mill be dropped from rom the department ment chief paul sent in the nominations of 0 I 1 matt rhodes and john B burbidge to bo be sergeants of police and these were unanimously confirmed commissioners colm cohn and grant indulged la ea little littie moldy war between I 1 in but aside from this the meeting was mas her harmonious WORKMANS MANS CASE at 7 30 the hour corthe for the meeting all the were present chairman noble being in tho thir chair the minutes ot of the ri nev evious louii meeting were read find and all went avent well until those tho ot of the secret part of 0 the session were vere fro reached ached here it was found that the matter of capt workman who had been charged by the chief with milli intoxication on the night of 0 the fire fare had been referred to mr air cohn for or investigation N vesti esti gation till this was nas done without the knowledge of mr air cohn and when that portion of the minutes was mach rca chri ed tile the latter mad made c the tact fact known the punishment reported by the chief to have been a applied was wag a fine ot of 10 and depriving the captain of hlo his day oil off for or a period of 0 three months 1 I believe that a man who acte acted d as Wor workman kingin did that night should be b dropped front rom the said ill mr air dininny Dl ninny and the sentiment anas was echoed by mr air grant Ho however mever 11 the le matter was aaen referred to mr co cohn hal for or urther further investigation there 1 Is 11 1 another matter id ilk like a to call attention to said mr air cohn and that Is that report that four our men lad had been charged by the chief with having been intoxicated it is in utterly JiL terly false falge and I 1 think thin a wrong impression ila has S gotten out in regard to it causing hard feelings in the department TWO NEW SERGEANTS the next matter was a communication from chief of police paul as follows low to tho the doard board of police and piro I 1 have hale app appointed elated matthew rhodes and jolin sorge rants to a till 1111 varen vacancies cles on oil tile forte force 1 to lake c C ire from tI avid ien respectfully grell coal hd rma tion llon bours ours truly SAMULL PAUL on motion of mr air cohn the appointments were mere confirmed QUESTION OF HARMONY then sir mr dininny opened the real ball by saying it has been suggested that inasmuch as we a hale pretty nearly 11 exhausted outside in regard to this fire no AD had better continuo continue the investigation by calling in and exa examining mInin g the members of the department N what r hat do you think of it mr cohn i mr cohn replied that the mit witnesses nesses in the investigation should be sworn sorn before being questioned but th that at charges would have to be made beaole this could bo be done for the last eight months there has been harmony in the department continued mr colin cohn and if wo we bring the firemen in hero to talk it may occasion hard feelings oh now mr fr cohn broke in mr lie grant JI its s no use tor for 3 0 ou u to say that for even since I 1 have been a member of tills this commission ive h had ad no less than a dozen flie nien come to me with mith complaints about the chief and I 1 know that there harmony in the department well news to me said mr me cohn VIEW well now here put in mr air grant tile the point where the tire way was located nor how long it burned but N where N here the blame lies that it was not b better etter handled unless ahat point la is to be ae handled in tills this investigation we ou ought silt to stop atop for were making a laughingstock laughing stock mock of ourse ourselves hes chairman noble told of having spoken to several men who he had said they thought the hie file was mas well handled that cuts no ice with us said mr gr grant ant we wait want t to art independently of insurance men or any one else in this thin matter this is a matter of grave importance to lo the people staid said sir mr dininny Dl ninny if the chief Is competent lets find it out lf he lots lets get rid of him urns item mr air cohn brought up the oath matter mailer again but it was passed without much notice in ill view of the tad fact that several firemen pa e re aro are to be examined said mi cohn to tip secretary ary pelt 1 I I b licce ahlet dev dealno inc ought to be b present will you kindly call him in mr felt well said mr giant im willing that the chlof chief should come lit in provided the inen given are arc w m efing ind and it if they object I 1 shall certainly object 1 lou I on must think this Is a session of 0 tit tin grand brand jury mr grant ictor ted mr colin cohn ive got a voice here as aa well mell as you have hane mr jr cohn replied giant APT DONNELL DONNEIL capt lonnell donnell of the board cf it mua colled called in fit at tills this point lacell requested to be by mayor Gleni finning tie ho aul auff clr fr dininny had a little we lete a tete act tore hn he was auton the stand bland in which lie he as beard to remark that the insurance people would make no thresa nor pion ilses in tire the matter LUL hut would po go ahead on an lines deemed best by ile he tied no in jol oi mation lie ho said attar taking tile stand aland as to lc tile the of the inseal aric anc v i ith reference to rates of insurance Ins in the city we make gains according to tilt location of tile thy properly lie said I hay rate increased Increase il by reason of act action lion or lack of fiction action of the ci iier was mas aked mijat Is 13 not a 0 fair question said capt calit donnell laconi laconically caNy fla have the caloa boen been increased in the three carst yes can you give five the extent of tile the increase no 11 the board of underwriters exam living the lef tt ani bauh fire ye yes A committee has been appointed cit t ahmo hmo aji a I 1 I 1 hal I 1 occasion oro ision io 1 bial notus e tile ninne minner m inner nf i I 1 11 fl fing fires in ill the city YH chate I 1 ilala the coni complies iny any cause for complaint as 03 to tho the manner or of fighting the fires fl rrB yes yc I 1 think they have ho do you think they have calls caiar to compi complain n in sw AS to tile the manner mangler in which theme them buildings have hair been inspected impeded by tile the chief I 1 borce IS inadequate 1 I it do not witch to make any remarks il to tire the chief or nr hla him actions I 1 think the present force Is inadequate the department should bo be at least one third larger than atila what wele the anea for the last years on with till the pre it louse oua throe three years rears they smaller haw if nw A bout about iran number of fires 1 they arv NI re about one third fesi Is chief dolne remarked here that lit his reports will show exactly the number or of ires tim MAYOR MAYOK ON TUB THE STAND maior glendinning was aa the post next lie he told in answer to mr jr questions tilt ihu story alory of the fir fire a an hf tw it 11 ahan I 1 got there he said were two lines of hose hohe one a them leal running bank back to the elevator shaft chaft but it was about ten minutes bror the water came the I 1 mayor lay or stated that lie h saw no hose taken into eny any of the front min windows clows when nar hen he looked up the levator elevator c shaft he said ho he noticed burning amb emb ambera ers falling failing down and thought the fire anre waa mas in ahn ill second story ilo ile believed the fire reached the auerbach side aide through the fourth story which Ehr should ild have been closed tile the firm of scott cott As co had some money and anal property fito lint tho the night of the lire re paid bald tin the mayor how bom in fit 5 bour our judgment juds mant mayor asked mr air dininny was that alre 1 ban handled I 1 I 1 0 all very poorly answered the exe executive cu aln thore re was as no effort made to the fire through sigh tile the front of the building said flit mayor and there wag IL a woy way clear through on the I 1 third b I 1 ell story mory in my opinion the fr alre re originated between the first and second floor floom albert earl one of tho the engineers at the blok block was m as called but said but littie except that he went up that night to try and rescue acue miss smith sinith tile the next witness was a dripper dapper young youn man named william pitman with a style of delivery and a very excellent opinion of himself if lie he total told the story telling what ige he 41 alil 1 and a tremendous hit by announcing and do you know I 1 think I 1 carried the ladder that rescued MISS smith fairn tho the roof film pitman tun stated that lie saw cart workman several alms s during the tire ire and commissioner cohn took occasion to ask him what the captains condition wast waa 1 I think lip IK was mas excited said ane gouni man capt W IT bywater was wa then called in still and stated briefly tho the particulars of tho the tier but slightly from other w m It witnesses nesses FIREMEN TO br BE EXAMINED axa ilerd this concluded the taking of 0 testimony and an adjournment was wa taken until unfit tonight ot at 7 clock cc at that hour sol ertil of the th fireman fl remon inc including tiding assistant chief donovan capt calta mccarthy to workman and sullivan firemen Alo mower carlow morton bl orton and mcdonald besides james moffat and james johndon Joh John TiKon mon who nho roomed in the burned bubbling bul bling wilt bo be heard as to the fire chief devine stated last night in reference to the workman an matter that he regretted exceedingly that tho the captain had erred he Is the oldest paid man in the I 1 department apart wd bald the chief and when on duty la Is one one of the best when oft off though he goes a little wrong |