| Show I 1 INSURANCE nANCE MEN EXAMINED coates and donnell at the afternoon session I 1 the afternoon session opened with till 11 II P I 1 0 coates chatos a local insurance man upon the stand mr air coates testified tes tined that the loss to the stock sit at tho the fire was in the neighborhood ot or taki and the loss to the building was nearly VW the loss to the stock was wag mainly to water on one occasion his he heard sir mr devine say nay that the insurance men had bad opposed hla his on en bling b ling the department and that he did nt lint require any favors ot of thern them now mr air zane the damage to tho the lV altner flock tire result vt vc both water and smoke band A mr ir coates Coa the whito while goods were damaged by smoke is r ke when was it that you had that con with mr air devine Dev lne 3 several ago I 1 at this time judge powers introduced it in evidence tile the reports ot of this the lire fire de 1 vart ments ol of washington minneapolis tacoma atlanta richmond du I 1 uth and seattle to show how many I 1 melt inell tl aella 1 trucks in those cities I 1 were manned by as follows washington 1 to i minneapolis IS 15 tacoma 7 atlanta 8 9 richmond Illch mond 15 duluth 11 brattle e 8 ii al mr zane i A objected ib I 1 acted to the otter offer on the s thal 1 I it t I 1 was immaterial but b ut the board vo a rd d ILI allowed 0 r v ed it to go 90 in saying they would consider c ida it in connection with fill tile the number of men in the departments referred to and the population 0 of the cities DONNELL ONT ON DEVINE r captain donnell Do nuell manager of 0 tho the board of 0 fire I underwriters or 0 salt 1 lake testified that tile hie elli clency or oc I 1 tile fire de art T it had much to do with the haftor matter olo of nates for insurance lie dij not know ot of any inspection oi 0 having been made by the lt chief ot of tile tho feri DL partition t during tr 4 i I 1 1 k I tile 1110 past year yar ho knew nothing ot of 11 i hit ile treatment of 0 the insurance lu aurance I 1 men ot of tho the city except by hearsay arid and g had never seen hirr him at a ire fire As to the present trouble in the department departs depar tm nt I 1 captain donnoll donnell teri tIned that it insurance I 1 insurance Is were at their normal con I 1 dit dallon lall it would hale haie 1 a I tendency to increase theia 1 air m r zalle an hav hava you read chief DC vines forlIS i captain donnell I 1 ill have va int hot 1611 L klina ill air elliut lie he olle no then you did not biff 00 Mit in his report to the effect hat fill all tile iniece balge in the huil beer during ill aliu year isy ISO C I 1 1 I did un liol was risked by chair man jennings it ir the offices Of fires I 1 in li isalt 1 airl isa 1891 lial 1131 focht I 1 cc gi vater or iras e as than irk in anil and lie answered that thai tire ilio percentage had bad been greater Fr par lie ho did not attribute tills to any inefficiency on the 1110 rait of 0 the firo department OB as fires like sul bill acro more plentiful lit at dome times than others judge power Powers s Do you vou linow t lie goll et etri CIRI ri reputation of chief devine lor for efficiency 0 in o the tha fire r ire Department 9 donnell I 1 do what Is it bad during the ali examination of donnell judge rowers find and mr zano indulged in ili a battle that looked fr a t moment ns AS it it might terminate lit in a personal encounter nit but tile this board called cald both gentlemen to order gild and pence peace was wai finally restored ahn trouble grew crew out of oc nn an objection which mr air zone zano urged against judge methods of 0 examination anil and ono one word brought on until judge rowers powers accused mr air zano zaire 0 t attempting to browbeat brow beat the witness 1 I am riot not trying to browbeat brow beat anybody ly mr fr retorted anti and I 1 dont wish to have any words with a man ot of your character well that Is your usual way of getting it ng along alon judge powers answered and I 1 will protect myself it tile the board allows you to continue your insulting remarks tile thi excitement was running high by this time but mr air stephens and ch chairman air jennings tool took A liand hand lit in the tray and restored order WILSON HAS HIS SAY SAT E IV wilson another insurance agent was called and asked it he wits was acquainted with the reputation ot of ch chief I 1 of devine for or efficiency in the fire department part ment sir mr wilson replied that he was and that it was bad mr air wilson testified that tho the principal to loss at tile he lire was waa from water and that the lipman waller stein ire fire was not properly handled in his opinion sir air zane when sir devine was a candidate for this position you did all you could to defeat him you mr air W N ilson 1 I lid did we were opposed to him tor for the reason that we believed the alie result would be just as it has been you introduced an allI davit against him you yes have you ever read the reports ot of the fire losses in this city 1 I have not then you 10 to lo not know that the loss I 1 in it IS 34 was only less than it ever was before 1 I did not judge powers who made thal aal davit I 1 mr air wilson Wll sonA A member the present department I 1 would woid rather not mention his name tell who lie he way 0 V II 11 bywater Byli bywater ater was wai opposing devine at t that hat time was lie he Y yes 11 mr wilson in answer to questions put by the board said that it was the general opinion ot of the insurance me men n or a larre large majority ot of thern them that a a change chance should be made in the head ot of the department continuing mr wilson said we simply opposed him because he was a new man mail and knew nothing about ohp th tire anre business mr stephens upon what do you base h his is reputation for inear inefficiency mr air wilson I 1 think I 1 have disc discussed used it with with every insurance man either in or out ot of it a meeting name somo some ot of these insurance men 11 II 11 G whitney L B rogers ca captain P ta n donnell mr donnellan ot of conway Doo nollan hugh hueh anaf andersen windsor hudson andal P G coates what did they say well we discussed the matter at an insurance meeting we were trying to come to a conclusion a m to what wo we should do when this matter ot of investigation ti came cama up so far as my talk WEIS was concerned I 1 have never had any feeling other than that the chief ought to be changed the insurance men also thought that we had everything to gain and nothing to lose by the change what about the reputation ol of the chief of course the principal part was his inability to get along with the men and to have harmony in tile the department without which no good could possibly come I 1 havo never heard any ally comments on mr devin devane L personally it was as to tile the general condition of the department and riot not as a to ills his personal reputation otherwise ant at all everybody vry holy I 1 have talked gitil seems to think we could sacrifice th lie chief casler than ihan we could Bac cacildo tl ill department nit mr I 1 in other othe r words it la Is the th I 1 opinion of the insurance men you have mentioned that it Is 14 bettor to ila diax e ex perlen ceil dpn I 1 than iran to have lave an inexpert inexperienced encee chief mr air WI allson I 1 son that Is I 1 it exactly CLARK fl ARK foia lon THE DEFENSE at this tario the defense was allowed to in call nathan dark clark because lie ho desired in I 1 return horn home to farmington 1141 he ten tined eliat lie h hart had delivered a great deal 0 of f hay lay to t the he devart department ment all of which as carefully inspected by the achler what did you yoli get tor for tile tho hay that you sold bold to the department the witness well I 1 dont like to say I 1 pee nee a fellow writing here and lc if it was as found out that we sell cell hay cheaper to the department than out our other customers it would get us tile into trouble lauchter well you sold it to the department cheaper than you did to other people yea joseph tremayne Tre mayno a ri member or f tile the fire department was wall then called by judo judea powers and testified substantially the same as ai a i other witnesses of the department had bad done with the additional dit ional statement that devine lined filled him 35 5 once tor for smoking a cigarette on the street judge powers then said bald that he had a few remaining witnesses whose testimony would be brief but as they were absent lie he would like to adjourn until monday at which time ho he could rest hl ial case an hour this was waa agreeable ax to parties concerned and an adjournment was so accordingly taken until 10 monday morning |
