Show HOPI HOPE INTERVIEWED IN BOSTON i HIS NERVE Declares His Schemes Are All Right and He Do Anything Wrong but Plans to Leave Country Denies Forgery Bad Faith and Everything Else Even Saying He Has No Trouble With Evades N Matter of Draft Beresford Hope was found in Boston last night by a of The Herald and was interviewed at length In the light of the facts pub published published yesterday the interview is amusing and md has a familiar ring to those who have talked with Hope In this interview Hope denies as was to be anticipated that there was anything shady in his transactions He denies many irany facts well known iii Salt Lake He seeks to make it appear that the exposure of his hii methods Is due to a fight and because one paper meaning The Tho Herald was scooped both statements Tie The T e fact is that Hope asked The j Herald to print the original story of his vast at the same time the theother theother other ther morning papers published the tale but this newspaper refused to do so It was and is desirous of protecting toe we public against imposition And of course the attempt to mix religion with wi tb the affair is ridiculous Hope Is flying high in Boston He has a card carll at the University club and nd has been entertained by General Nelson A Miles and other prominent Bostonians John A Bagley is with him and manfully sticks sUcks up for him It may be significant that Hope admits he was planning to leave the United States July 14 The installment today of the Tale of Hope deals principally with his doings in Boston Boton Bo ton Special to The Herald Boston Mass July 8 Beresford Hope of London England reported to tobe tobe tobe be sought by y many Mormons of Salt Lake City Utah in connection with schemes of which the financing in involved involved involved many millions and who has been entertained by some of the best known persons of Boston and put up at the University club denied categorically c categorically cally to a reporter today that there was anything at all off color in his western schemes and asserted that excessive rivalry between Gentile and Mormon newspapers in Salt Lake City was rr for f r much stir that has been made about him Mr Hope has been by Bostonians and given the title of sir by others and he was said in dis dispatches dispatches patches from the west to have represented represented seated himself f as an a English nobleman Mr Hope says that there is no truth in that report that the only halts in plans are those necessary before b fore a large amount of money should be staked on an investment scheme and that his career in this country in inthe inthe the last eight months has bas been open and honest in every way Bagley Stands by Hope With Mr Hope in Boston is former Attorney General John A Bagley of Idaho a personal pers r al friend of President Roosevelt and a guest of his a short time ago Mr Bagley asserts emphatically emphatically that Mr Hopes dealings have been entirely honest that his creden credentials credentials credentials were scanned in Salt Lake City by some of the best wen inen of the state and aEd that he has never even sug suggested suggested suggested anything that borders on fren frenzied frenzied frenzied finance Mr Bagley declares he lie Js is interested in Mr Hopes western companies only as an attorney Since coming to the United States about eight months ago Air Mr Hope has spent most of his time in the west much of it in Salt Lake City says Mr Bagley as representative tive of English capitalists who are said to have already invested more than in various enterprises in the west They are said by Mr Bagley to tobe tobe be considering now the advisability of ofa ofa a general exploiting plan embracing I transportation lighting and other things One of the companies which It Itis itIs I is supposed to take over should Mr I Hope recommend it is the Shoshone Power company which obtains electric power from the famous Shoshone falls on the Snake river and propose to de develop develop develop enough electricity here to pro provide provide provide vide power and tind light for various enter enterprises enterprises enterprises in Salt Lake City and the adja adjacent adjacent adjacent cent country Interview With Hope Speaking of his career in this coun COmI country country try Mr said yesterday Some paper or other printed printe a para paragraph paragraph paragraph graph about my family and several persons have seen fit to apply a title to it I have none and I have never made any claim to one I have kept my personality in the background as much afe a possible since Fince coming to this country and have devoted myself strictly to business to legitimate busi business business business ness in accordance to the instructions I received in England I suppose that I am in the nature of a hired man There is English capital ready to in invest invest invest vest in enterprises in the west if re reports reports reports ports as to the financial possibilities of the section are obtained I say frankly that careful management is necessary to carry the present plans through successfully and I know also that the country where we may invest money will be as much the gainer as the gentlemen who will finance the project It is a country of splendid possibilities in the region of Salt Lake City a country where there is room for a splendid empire If any western westor newspapers newspapers wish to scare away capital from Irom that section I suppose that it Is possible for them to do so but that it is nothing in the methods we are arc using or in the ends we seek to any reputable man of ot good judgment should take t ke exception Scoop That Was Refused Ref used Now as in the various reports Salt Lake City in regard to the plight in which Mormons are supposed sU posed to have been put There arc are two factions in Salt Lake Lal e City Cit the Gentile and the Mormons It Jt so happened that I came in contact with Mormon capitalists rather than Gentiles A Gentile news flews newspaper newspaper paper was scooped on the news of our plans and nd that newspaper has been hostile ever eyel since that time When I Iwas Iwas was Salt Lake City I was re ra requested quested quest by the editors of three e news JI pers there the one paper to which Ire I re refer fer fee not being represented among amo g the three gentlemen to send at their ex cx expense expense pense pence to Salt SaIt Lake City news of the completion of our plans in Boston Queried as to the report that offices occupied by his company in Salt Lake City had been closed because there was no 0 money forwarded by him from Bos Boston ton to meet expenses or to pay sala saha salaries salaries ries nies Hope said saidI j I have had no financial difficulties of any kind whatever in Salt Lake City with clerks or with the owners of office buildings The company in which I was interested had hardly more than in the office of a gentleman who was a party to some soine of our plans That office may have been closed and there may be money owing to some orne of the persons per ons employed there but they were not of the capitalists I represented I Denies nies Any nY Forgery It is said in a dispatch ft om Salt Lake City Hope was told t ld that you are trying to sell stocks in Boston in inthe inthe inthe the Great Western Vestern Coal and Mining company to which the name of a Utah millionaire John Hill HilJ has be I believe that the name of a gantle g itle man from whom I and a few associates obtained options on about acres of o coal land is Hill Hm commented Mr Hope but he is very far from being a millionaire as his dealing with the pur purchasers purchasers purchasers chasers of the thc option showed sho d plainly It is absolutely false that the name nam of or John Hill or of anybody else has been forged to any paper of any kind in which I am interested The mining plans are not a part of the venture of the English capital may undertake but butan butan butan an independent undertaking reputation I believe suffered in the least on account of the work vork I 1 have been doing in the west It is Isaid said also in a dispatch from the west he was told that you have mentioned the name ame of Halsted in con connection connection connection your general plans and that some of the persons who have been persuaded to put trust in your as assertions assertions now believe there i Ui no such man ma n Mr lr Halsted is an English gentleman interested In the tile western development plans He is very ver far from mythical as you might discover if you ever talked with hm him Mr Halsted has had hal some business dealings with a Boston financial house concerning bonds I have received letters from him many man v times time and have talked with him He H is what he says he is Says Draft Was Delayed It is said also that tha t a draft of yours has been b n Mr Hope was told None of my mr drafts have been dis dishonored dishonored honored he replied replie though there may have ha vc been some expected delayed which were made necessary for busi business ness reasons In one case I had a mat matter matter matter ter held over fer thirty days clays in order to tomake tomake tomake make sure of a certain That is about as much as I know of any iny dis din dishonoring dishonoring honoring of drafts As a matter of fact money mon y is owed to me in that country In some sonic cases casesI I d dd cid d not hot believe that persons from honi hom services were done were able conveniently to make payments and andI I did not press them Are you making any effort to raise money in Boston for the companies you yon represent he was asked Not a cent replied Mr Hope 1 ope I t Iam Iam tam am here trying to make arrangements for a Boston house to be gent of ot the th companies s and I hope to sao ono Ofle commission by the plan I Ih hay hav met very ery few persons pel Eons here in Boston t be believe believe behove lieve hove that the plans I am now working on will wn be put into effect finally Surgeon in British Navy Mr Hope stayed it at Youngs hotel for a few day a June 21 he lie had dinner at Atlantic house Nantucket Beach and inquired if it would be pos possible possible possible sible to obtain quarters there for four tour or five friends of the th British navy who were w re to arrive at Newport to ne De pre pres present ent at the naval maneuvers The rue man management management management of the hotel said Saturday night that he understood Mr Hope H pe to say that he was a surgeon in the Brit British British rit ish navy nav When Mr Hope was W S asked in regard to that today he ho said that the hotel manager must have misunderstood him His plans include a short stay at i the le Atlantic house houser ho s later on he lie said Wand and he added that if it much of a stir was vas made about his presence In Boston his U Page 2 1 r T VI WE IN BOSTON BO r KEEPS HIS NERVE i Continued d from Page 1 plans lor tor showing sh wing his brother English Englishmen men a OS he de declared e dared cia red off fI ff Mr Hope and q Mr Bagley eagley were the th tb guests of General Nelson N son A Miles rt t at the Somerset hotel Saturday night nig t Until Saturday afternoon MA M II Hope was s st lying at the Otis house Ii in Mt Vernon street where he said that tha he was vas a son Bon ot of the youngest o of the wet well known Hope family and that he did dk not like nire the th manner manner In tn which negroes n groe gro followed him im around Youngs Y hotel He Hi was waSll a tt guest of ot a Cambridge ridge friend at atthe atthe a athe the University at lunch Saturday and an he has the privileges of ot the tha club for a week He plans to leave lea e for tor England Englan on the of the month he says Mr Bagley said today that he was waa not in the confidence of Mr 11 Hope in It all his plans but that he lie understood that Mr Hope was investigating con conditions conditions conditions In Utah and Idaho for foi a n bi English syndicate Mr Bagley and oth other othor other er or Americans have control of or water waterpower waterpower power of Shoshone Falls Emails and it ls s pro proposed proposed proposed posed that merger of the th Shoshone property with other English interests interest in the west that Mr fr Bagley is i mainly interested in Bagley to the Fore I have seen geen considerable of Mr Ir Hope Hop since first meeting him in Chicago som Sam time ago remarked Mr Bagley last lasi night and I have discussed many af at affairs affairs fairs airs with him pertaining to the prop properties which I understand the men nien whom he lie is representing may ex cx exploit exploit Mr Hopes remuneration I have been given to believe will be only 1 I Iper per cent of whatever amount of bonds bomb the he Englishmen may care to buy There is a great deal of English capital capita now no non in n the region of Salt Lake City and tho th returns on some ome of It has not been 10 o c large as hoped for I believe that tho th plan now Is to have Mr r Hope report In person in London to the tho persons who sent him out and on that report together to ethel with the blue prints maps anO an statistics les t nd reckonings of who have been over the ground wH vil depend the action of the Englishmen I know for a certainty that estimates estimate of f earning capacity of If various enter enterprises enterprises enterprises have been made and that it has ha been reported the which might be acquired for is be believed beHoved to have an earning capacity of ot Faith in Letter LetterHeads Heads It has been telegraphed to Boston that no trace could bo be b found by in investigators investigators of London Financial com corn company company pany any which Mr Hope says sa s is behind him Mr Bagley was told All I know of f that he replied Is that tha I have seen letterheads of British American Securities limited of London to which you ioU refer reCer and that cip ler cablegrams from roin the company have come to Mr I Hope Elope I have no reason to believe belleY that there diere is no such a company and that Mr Hope Is not receiving instructions instructions Ions from it As to the reality of Mr 11 Halsted I Ican cnn can simply say that I have never seen see him but out I nave have seen letters from him and that I understand that he was ill Iii for or some time in Boston and is now at Newport New ort Mr Hopes Hop s dealings with me have been een so flO fre from even a D suspicion of practices which though not entirely lawful awful are frowned on by the best beet be t of business men that t at I see no reason at atall ataU all aU LII to discredit anything ing he be may have hav ha told old me in regard to the foreign bank banking banking ing ng company of if f Mr r Halstead Refers to Eccles Endorsement In regard to the coal and mining company my understanding is that Mr Jr Hope and two associates Dr Wil Wilcox cox ox and Mr Stevenson St of salt falt alt Lake City ity were making a private venture I have heard of a Mr Hill Hm but whether er r he is a millionaire or not I do not know now There is one millionaire who has hus itS been associated with Mr Ir Hope In il Inthe the he management of his plans and that thatis thatIS IS is Mr MiS 11 Eccles Eceles s of Ogden Utah who is a lumber umber merchant mer hant Mr r Eccles Is vice president resIdent of the International Tru Trust t company which has been incorporated in a Idaho Idano anI for which I 1 drew up the articles of incorporation The bank is not ot yet in running order Before our plans in regard to In Incorporation Incorporation corporation were fully matured it was Aas suggested e ted that the credentials of Cot Mr 11 Hope lope be Investigated They were looked over by a committee of throe three gentlemen gC interested financially anI ana they reported back ba k that everything was waa all 11 right Mr Eccles was one of f that committee ommittee 11 I believe that there was some hitch hitchin hitchI in I regard to the bonds In the Silver Bros Iros Iron works of Salt Lake City I understood |