Show II I ROBERTS JOINS THE ANANIAS CLUB CLUBB I IB B H Roberts in his speech at the Democratic meeting in Logan on Monday night said But I have reserved the most conclusive evidence for the last for the close of this branch of my speech Telegraphic message under date of January I 30 1909 addressed to Senator Reed Smoot Senator George Sutherland Representative Joseph Howell Washington D 0 O Gentlemen The state of I Utah is aroused and earnestly demanding prohibition at the hands of the legislators i Now let me halt a moment here to say that this dispatch I am reading carries the signature of Charles W Nibley Hyrum M Smith and Nephi L i Morris and nd I have halted at the close of this sentence in the dispatch to put this question to these gentlemen and to you When they said The state of Utah is is aroused and earnestly demanding prohibition at the hands of the legislators did those gentlemen mean local option at that time Or did they i I mean statewide de prohibition then I And if some one had stayed the handwriting the dispatch and had said to these three gentlemen I Gentlemen will you not accept something just asgood as asgood II good as prohibition local option with what mighty indignation would they have repudiated that suggestion The state of Utah is aroused and earnestly demanding prohibition at the hands of the legislators Perhaps ninety per cent of the people want it The church wants it They ought to know for one j is the honored respected and loved bishop of the church of the whole Church of Christ not alone in Utah but throughout this intermountain west and all the world Everywhere is he bishop of this great church of the new dispensation The liThe church wants it the women voters demand it itt itI t I My sisters fellow citizens is that true of you If it was true of you when this dispatch was sent in January 1909 it true today also Have j you changed your views upon this subject if these gentlemen represented your y ur views truly And indeed what occasion has there been for any change of l views to anyone who had solid convictions upon this subject The women women voters demand it The Republican party will be held responsible if it fails to heed the wishes of the people The federal officeholders are the main obstacle in the way of or prohibition That means the federal bunch They are ag aggressively aggressively aggressively resisting the wishes of the people and standing stubbornly between them and their representatives in the legislature In the name of all the gods to quote the great English poet on what meat have these several members of the federal bunch been feeding that they have grown so great they dare stand in between the people and the legislators selected by the people The Republican party must be saved from disintegration and if the federal office holders who are allied with the party and the saloon swoon element succeed in their present efforts the Republican party will be called the party the saloon league party These are not my accusations nor my words but the words of these arnest men who are Republicans Re and among the foremost Republicans of our state The Republican party will be called the the saloon league party Do you gentlemen support the local leaders in their opposition to prohibition In our judgment a little yielding on this point will not only save the party but will make it stronger than ever Continued inflexibility will result calamitously Please answer CHARLES W NIBLEY 9 HYRUM M SMITH i i NEPHI L MORRIS Please answer Did they answer Not up to date No They Th did not answer What is the usual course of senators and representatives when ad addressed addressed dressed dresseel by their constituents Why the humblest farmer or gardener the Humblest man in the state let him but do our servants down there in m Wash Washington Washington Washington ington the honor to address a communication to them asking for a few garden gar en seeds and the senator will w l quickly respond as he ought to because he is isad addressed ad essed by one of his sovereigns not a henchman but these gentlemen refused to answer Now think of it Here is a representation made to them that ninety pi p cent of the people demand prohibition or ask or favor prohibition The women voters of the state demand it The great church demands it They arE ar told that their party will be considered the party of the state if they do not get these federal officeholders out ont of the way and cause them ti cease opposition to this desired measure They are told that they will be called the saloon league party disintegration and ruin to the party and three thre 1 bf f the foremost men of the state stae say Please answer and YET THAT WHOLE DELEGATION REMAINED IN DEAD SILENCE f Now my fellow citizens try the question in two ways Suppose there was w no deal in the way and this congressional delegation of ours were as innocent as newborn babes about the matter as they profess to be branding all the Republicans Re who spoke upon the floor of the state legislature of Utah branding that great convention that was there representing more than eighty thousand pf f petitioners representatives from every county in the state branding that convention with uttering falsehoods if we are to believe the senior senator from f om the state of Utah r I Suppose I say that they were W ere innocent and there was vas no deal d ea in existence exist e a what would our congressional co delegation have done in that event Come Como ComeI I now take it home What would they have done THEY WOULD HAVE NED UP THE WIRES BETWEEN HERE AND WASHINGTON BUT BUTI I I WHAT THEY WOULD WO D HAVE HA VJ GOT GOr A MESSAGE M of consolation back to ese e a gentlemen who were saying to them Please answer answerL werL L io ow t then r try rom m this h point nt ot of w Su Qa at wiS a 4 j R tJ y v ba own e oL that de deal u pose it bad been made de f consent and approval a a p oval they hey knew of its ts existence that it was of funding binding eJect effect ef e t and aud alJ l by the way whenever you YOl d deal I iq u r dealers the always alm w ys look lookout lookout k out for it that t it i ie of binding effect You may think that you have hae got them but it always way turns out that they have got you and It never fails Nowthen H UJ the supposition that they bad had knowledge of such a tran action as I have described then what would w uld you do doI I Tell me what would they do Would they not do just what they did remain absolutely silent Is there any other outcome for it Not a bit of it not a bit of it Now then I hold that these considerations the charges that are made by the Republicans in the legislature and outside of it the silence of these gentlemen in reference to that dispatch fixed the fact of this infamous immoral i moral deal with the representatives of the worst element of society It fixes it beyond any question The moral certainty of it is established and no one who listens to the massed evidence in the case can have any doubt in regard to it and the knowl knowledge knowledge edge of these gentlemen concerning it Therefore since the liquor interests has stretched forth its hand to defeat the sovereign will of the people and nd corrupt their legislation Uncle Jesse Knight I am with you for prohibition 1 The famous telegram upon which Mr Ir Roberts lays so much stress was sent to Senators Reed Heed Smoot Senator George Sutherland and Congressman Howell during the session of the legislature in January 1909 and md was signed by Charles AV W Nibley Ni le Hyrum H M r Smith and nd Nephi L Morris The rhe Herald Republican yesterday sent a reporter to the three men named and aud asked each of or them deem whether thore was an un answer received to their telegram Bishop Nibley said YES YE IN BEHALF OF THE UTAH DELEGATION AN ANSWER WAS SENT AND RECEIVED I Apostle Hyrum M Smith said HE SENATOR REED SMOOT DID MOST CERTAINLY ANSWER THE TELEGRAM President Nephi L Morris said YES THERE WAS AN ANSWER RECEIVED Now Mr Roberts we will argue with you vote ou a u moment on your our own basis and an pause Cause to see whether you will rectify your statements We rc will wait and see whether you will correct your declarations and find admit that when you you ou argued that there Was a deal with the liquor interests because the congressional delegation did not answer the telegram wrong wrong t and that there was no deal with the liquor interests in using your logic because the tIe delegation DID ANSWER SER the telegram Mr Roberts in your our Logan address you OU say Suppose I say that they the r wore were innocent and that there was no deal with the me liquor interests in iii n ex existence existence what would our congressional delegation have done do e in n that event They be would would have burned b up tiP the wires between tween b here and Washington but butt what they thoy would have got t a message of consolation back to these gentlemen who were w re saying sa S SNow ing please answer Now Mr Roberts Robert our congressional delegation did burn up the tho wires as you say and they the get back a message mess ge to tb these gentlemen who had sent them diem telegram You have the word of Bishop p Nibley who you OU say is the tile honored respected r and loved bishop of the church that there was an answer to that telegram and that lt that answer was was received r here You have the th word ward Apostle of Smith that Senator Smoot sent s nt an answer to that telegram and you on have hae the word of President Morris of Salt Shit Lake stake that thoro was an answer received Aud And to quote you again Mr Roberts Now then upon the supposition that they had knowledge of such a transaction as I have described then what would they do Tell me what they would do Would they not do just what they did remain absolutely silent Is there any other outcome of it Now then Mr Ir Roberts you have bave the Ole word of Mr Ir Nibley Mr Ir Smith and Mr Morris three prominent members of the Mormon church and honor honorable honorable able business men that there was Avas an answer to the telegram that the congressional delegation when it received this message from those these th se three men an answered answered answered that telegram What hat do you OU think you should do under the circumstances You do not doubt the word of these three men when they say their telegram was answered do you ou 1 ie You have argued argue Mr Roberts that because this telegram was sent and supposedly no answer received that they were guilty of making a aa deal with the liquor interests You have argued that if they the were yere guilty of making a It deal with the liquor interests that they would do just what you said sai they did do o never answer the tho telegram l lX Now X ow that you have been assured Mr Ir Roberts on the tho authority of these men inon who sent the tho gram that the they received an answer will vou tell the tho peo people ile Ill in your your next neat speech that you were wrong that an answer answer was received and that your our logic logicians falls to the ground for that reason 7 Will V ll you you OU tell your next audience that there thore was a deal by lending Republicans with the th liquor interests and if you 01 do what new brand of logic will you conceive to support your J ur assertion f It seems seams to be pretty thoroughly up to you ou Mr Roberts You y have used cd that telegram which you secured somewhere nobody knows low bow because it was ws w s apparently an e telegram m and from that you have a tissue of something that u 40 to milder term tenn than falsehood will fit and one certainly would be justified in using the shorter r and uglier word You LOII T have budded that tissue of falsehood o arguing from the premise that these men did not answer the t telegram and therefore t they the must be b g guilty guilt No Now a Mr lie Roberts since y ou Ju have the word of these three reputable men these prominent citizens these three men who stand high in the Mormon church that they the did receive a M au answer to that telegram will you retract what you have said Will Till you yon topple over oyer the structure uc of falsehood which rests upon a u basis that tl at does not exist You know now what the manly stand would be for you OU to take Will you take it its We Ve will quote qU tc you atou TOU d a little l more Mr Roberts Now then I these considerations the charges that are made by bythe the Republicans in in the legislature and outside of it the SILENCE OF THESE GENTLEMEN i TO THAT DISPATCH FIXED THE FACT of this immoral deal with representatives of the worst element of society It fixes it beyor any question t Now since the of these gentlemen Senators Smoot and Sutherland and Congressman Howell fixed the fact of tins this famous immoral deal where do you g t off of Mr M Roberts now that it is shown that these Olese gentlemen were not silent put you now that it is shown on pa tile the word of three of the citizens of Utah that these gentlemen e were not silent but that they answered ed telegram Are Axe you y ye OU not willing now t to u stop top that thai t i It tt talk l of a i deal since since the foundation nd o t sour argument ar uni ll nt is blown to atoms by l y Bishop 1 Nibley ible Apostle Smith 1 and President Morris Dont you JOU o whoever got that m i n tho ha first place and passed it to you rou was committing ar a most despicable piece of work f Did the thel th tho l I Continued Contin roil on Paso Page Two r o 1 r t 4 c I I I I I ROBERTS JOINS ANANIAS CLUB Continued d from Page One Un honorable gentleman that gave you youa a copy of that tnt telegram tell you ou there has baa been no answer Since there was an answer and you knew so much about thit th first telegram cant It fair to a suppose poso knew there was an I awe answer s find And If you knew there was wasas an as II in la what light do you OU stand since you Y have baT reared a u structure of af utter falsehood upon that false fase fa se pre premise premise mise Using your own logic logie Mr Roberts if th the lack lIuk of ot answer to that tele telegram Kram gram proved there was wall a deal with the ibe liquor men dont the fact that there was an as answer prove that there was no O deal AM As a first class ela s logician yuu you ought to know whether that fits fila the h ease easel l Do o you doubt the word of Bishop Dishop Nibley Apostle P Smith and President Morris You believe dont you that If f these tbell men say 8 there was an answer that there was one ORe Will you tell people that you were wrong I Doat Dont you know Mr Roberts that of ot these men if II you had bad asked any aD they the would have told you that tele telegram I Igram gram grain was waa answered Dont you know YOU rou could have satisfied yourself in five live minutes whether there was wal an an answer answer awu Or did cUd you yuu prefer to take the stump tump and utter untruths untruth And at the close of your speech Mr Roberts Roberta you ou turned to Uncle Knight and aDd In the same asme attitude and with the same asme gesture that you used u when heft you said Hid My Sty 1 dear Moyle lorle you GU win wilt your case ease you said ald in Logan Therefore since alnee the liquor Interest has haa stretched forth its band to defeat de defeat deft feat ft the sovereign will of ot the people 1 and corrupt their legislation Uncle Knight I 1 am with you ou for tor pro pre prohibition Now low Mr Roberts since It has been shown that arguing from your our own logic logie the liquor interest has 81 not stretched forth its hand will you hunt up p Uncle Jesse Jess and withdraw your our aid fr m mm Lim But it if dont make much difference w hether whether you ou do or not BOt It is ill inconceivable Mr air 11 Roberta Roberts that i you know that an al answer an was received to that telegram The same hand baRd that gave you the original private private private vate telegram might have gotten you yon the answer And A d it was none of the three men who w o sent seat |