Show JACKSON ESTIMATED Asa Pugilist by the Champion John L Sullivan A FATAL SPARRING EXHIBITION I A Scheme to Kidnap ExSenator TfiborThe Conspiracy Against Old Hutch Benson the Forger Convicted Special to TH HERALD Examiner Dispatch NEW YORK Feb 14I have just interviewed inter-viewed John L Sullivan The big un is notover fond of talking to newspaper men It is true the New York dailies abound in alleged interviews with the great heavyweight heavy-weight but these the Examiner correspondent correspond-ent has discovered are usually inspired from the box office so to speak John Ls management Last night the fighter un bosomed himself very freely and his remarks re-marks have the merit exceptional in his case of authenticity and point The Examiner Ex-aminer being anxious to obtain an expert opinion from the champion upon the merits of Peter Jackson as a boxer and fighter I especially directed Sullivans attention to these points A great many men here who know more or less of pugilism have looked Peter pretty thoroughly over since he returned re-turned from England and some of the opinions which have been expressed might not please the Australians certainly not Californians who take a just pride in the dusky fighters pluck and modesty But New York is essentially a Sullivan city and a great many of these unfavorable caiticisms are owing t prejudice in favor of the champion Curiously enough John L Sullivan himself does not entirely spare his views on his friends He has formed an opinion of Peter Jackson which when it is remembered that the big fellow does not as a rule tnrow around compliments ments freely and that indeed he is some times very hard on men he has defeated or expects to defeat must be considered as very favorable to the California Athletic Athetic clubs pet What do I think of Peter Jackson 1 said the hero of Richburg eyeing the Examiner Ex-aminer mancsteadily Well Ive got an opinion but I dont know whether you people would like it Mr Sullivan was assured that what the Examiner wanted was any opinion really his own Well I will tell you lust what I think of the fellow When people first began talk lag about him I did not pay much attention to him I did not give him much credit for licking either Godfrey or McAuliffe I read nil the rnnnrfs of al his fifrhlintr Tem Smith There isnt much doubt in my mind that hed have made a holy show of that sneaking cur i he had not fouled the black man purposely and I dont give Jackson much credit for beating Smith because be-cause Smith never was much of a fighter But Ive seen the fellow put on fghter my self continued Mr Sullivan significantly and when I see a man fight with my own eyes I can generally size him up See The Examiner correspondent assured the champion slugger that he did see The time I anu alluding to was when Jackson sparred in Boston with Ashton The made a very bad setto according t nfyvidea buthat is Jacksons fault for Ashtofi was altogether too slow for him You see the public are not in it when it comes to judging these oouts it is not often that a boxing exhibition amounts to anything because i is the greatest luck in the world when two men are evenly matched I had rather see two poor fighters fight-ers who are evenly matched than the best man in the world fighting with one who i int quite suited to him Then theres luck in the rounds They wont come just to suit people All the good licks may come at first and then towards the end the whole thing peter out That is said Mr Sulli Sul van with a grin Cif the thing is on the deal secure Usually we put a little style in the fighting so as to make it real interesting Then you think Mr Sullivan that you die not have a fair opportunity at Boston fjudginsr Mr Jacksons abilityl lf iont say that neither What I say is t I great many fellows that saw him box dont know how he is going to fight going fght From what I saw of him I thinK he is the quickest man in the ring I ever saw I never saw quite as much real science backed up by solid good sense I mean good tense from the fighting point of view I thought too he might have a good head good Yes he must have a good head but I dont know about that You will have to wait and see I gathered from further conversation with the fighter that a good head with him was a term akin to genius which according accord-ing to the champion was an important fac tor in tho ring But Ill tell you what after all is mor important stillit is hard hitting Jackson hit hard there is the whole point I think he can box as well as I can in a general way perhaps a shade better but can he hit like a pile driver Thats the business and thats what Id like to know it I wore betting on him A great fighter is like WlC a big gunif he gets one good shot in ii doesnt matter how much popping tha ocBer fellow does With this somewhat mixed figure the in terview concluded with an assurance 01 assurnce the part of Kilrains victor that he wa 01 looking after his king general health very very singularly John L weighs three pounds less than when he entered the ring iu Richburg last July He has been taking Turkish bath very frequently of late and this has got a deal to do with reducing his weight Every morning he rides in Central park on n spirited horse After lunch he takes I a long walk and by dinner time he has I a ferocious appetite In the evening he takes in the theatre and has become quite a critic after his own fashion in the dramatic dra-matic line This is Sullivans modeof liv lv Ing and he appears to enjoy himself thoroughly thor-oughly Nothing disturbs him hardly and as T DeWolf Hopper says Il is dollar to red apples that he would rather be John L Sullivan than the Czar of Russia |