Show BIG I R. R LR R. R LINES GROUPING BASIS I IS HINES HINES' PLAN General Admits l Director i fost st Public Publio Opinion J Is Against lr t U U. S. S Control ton Feb 6 Director G.-Director Director G Gen Gen- n- n t Wa explained to the today Wai erat era I Hints iines committee tate commerce Senate footle Inter Interstate rc the tho railroads acIn EtC EtC- In 1 r fait In Ine to It hid 18 proposed permanent t cord g organisation un under private J Cement he tic would include on one onA o oan of or r an the tho backbone o of ot systems stems as two 10 big This grouping grouping- would o hR o uch ch group determined by br some somo governmental to tobe bC be inI In Congress and n tribunal I tribunal not by br It H. unwise to Ueral ho he regarded aa UI I F existing s systems bl big T c I 1 jd I n tills this way tray 1 ho said six or more mora foni corporations would bo be e created fr the country countr with more unith uni- uni th r T strength than a a. of or for form n companies with widely varying ImI commissions should 1 be used to tot Sate t lar large c extent ho said In determining I eal rates thought though Senator Cummins of or Iowa rowa remarkably proposal was vas fr Mines limes that which he had advocated to o rears ar and declared ho he believed that for should not bo boa returned to railroads management unless Congress Sid bad private established a permanent policy polley In regard to them d Right Time Iline Cummins disagreed with Mr L Senator nines Hines RInes' belief belleC that extension of or govern Rovern peat control was necessary to provide pro for Cor solution of oC the question LIma tr I I 1 think now note In Is the psychological J time to do the tho right thing thing- In regard to the railroads he said Bald Thoro IH Is Isi i I a L better temper a better spirit now relating to railroads than ever before In m ray my experience Wh Why not go o ahead now and weight the merits of ot your our plan 1 Mr Hines replied that he could not help feeling that the tho public was wal alm t government control and therefore therefore therefore there there- fore he did not believe it worth while to continue control for tor two years ears unless un unless unless un- un less government management was continued continued con con- long enough to give It t a fair trl trial I. I J I 1 think you ou underestimate the capacity of ot tho the people to think sanely And nd soundly on this subject no now nw v said Senator Cummins l 2 l fear If I t t- r erk were extended flap tv gre bl reas s i 1 not take J ii-J t f tK lA MS tl h haI i 3 11 until near the 0 d fJ tm te tt f M end then TC we would rave hav VE the Hj m tt tilt ms lai laia I a as now with t V e es e ej eloe- eloe ice tion comin coming tm cm Short hort Liner Linen u Senator Cummins paid many of r the short lines JInes had suffered uv u. I omission from the government control and guarantee Mr Ir limos HInes explained that with tho the coming of ot pen peace E all nil short lines should be included in n any scheme of oC federal control Senator Cummins wanted t. t in to Vm t.-n. know r- r i. i J I wh what tn authority rI ir t r McAdoo ji ad If di director ct general had ordered railroad employee to keep out of politico The she io former tumor director general Mr lines I-lines explained ha had 1 r regarded them us Iu government employed em ont- from loyo who for tor years cars had b boon been n barred from political activity Dont DolIt you ou think R a railroad d I It has hall as as much right to exercise his political political poli poli- rl rights as any ono one else elsor Senator 1 Cummins asked Mr nines lilacs thought the they ha had these I I rights explaining that the tiro order only prohibited certain acts such as IlA soliciting solicit solicit- In ing funds for tor Doll political purposes and acting as chairmen of ot political con- con Replying to Inquiries by bp Senator Kello Kellogg g of ot Minnesota Mr fr HIncH said pala the government last Insl year eDl had not been boon able because o of shortage of or labor and materials to keep maintenance of ot wn way quite up to to the required standard provided pro pro- provided pro pr-o- vided In contracts with the roads roade but that maintenance of or equipment had been above o contract standards The director general completed his testimony tOda today and spokesmen for railroad labor organizations will be heard tomorrow |