Show Of U. U S. S Irs SUNK Consul Frost Rep Reports rt Horse I Transport Marina larina Attacked Without Warning arning and aid the die I Crew Shelled rev i After Debarking in III Boats I SUBMARINE ISSUE f F MAY BE REOPENED 1 t fc Jepe Depends on Whether ler British Brit s Carriers Went to B Bottom BOttoni It as Result of f Skipp Skippers Skippers' lS I Efforts to Outi Outrun Out Out- i nm run Shells of the Enemy c if OF CREW CREWS MISSING l TI I t i London Oct 30 o. A private tel tel- l received cl lit the lie American I afternoon from froni Cr Crook oU t Ho cn en fin nj hint Clant n a number nf or l were drowned when ien the thc h torpedoed tor 4 by bT n a Thirty four lorn of ur the crew c n c c been bren nt Crook Crool Haven rand raDd lIe ent ore nrc ml r The flie which Jn been bern engaged en- en 1 In lit eer U Ja i ic c wel l of or KM- KM J tots ton 03 Fr f. f r J O Jh- Jh rj 4 t ei iLI fm nl III i 01 October Octo- Octo fl ber tr r 10 10 oCter nailed bUrl from rom Ye I ort X September r L. L T ASHINGTON Oct 30 Pre Pre Preliminary 4 t reports o of the thc sinking I toy German submarines of the British Marina 1 and amI partly manned b by Americans were oo incomplete tonight lIt to enable officials of of- r at the state department to an nn opinion as ns to whether there had bad been a n violation of neutral rights pr or r of of- pledges given the thc United States by y Germany 1 f Secretary Lansing declined to comment comment com corn ment meat further than to admit that the tho reI re- re I jJ appeared more serious than the 4 usual Ual routine dispatches announcing the destruction of or belligerent erent merchantmen mer- mer and nd that full tull Information I be awaited with Interest I a On On Its ite face tace the case of cC r the Marina larina reported b by Consul Frost at Queens Queens- I town lown presents the gravest t situation I 1 that has arisen since tho sinking Ing of ot LL the channel liner Sussex which brought l the h American and German governments t 20 Continued on rage Fago 2 AMERICANS ON I STEAMER SUNK I Q Queenstown Consul Reports Marina WI Was as Attacked Without WI Warning arn ng Continued d From Page e 1 to tho the verge of a break Although ho he cautioned that his information was purely flUrel provisional pro the consul cabled bled that tho the Marina a l horse transport with a mixed crew cre of British and Americans Amor- Amor leans was waa reported tHInk sunk without warning b by German submarine gunfire miles west of Cape Capo Clear and that 70 71 o of the crew of 10 wore missing Press dispatches have hwe Indicated that th the missing missing- m men n might reach rench shore In their boats later I Fired I d I Upon Ullon In Boats loot f Another message from Mr Ir Frost o rost said members of ot the crew of the Rowan Rowan- more Including Americans had been heen shelled In their boats while abandonIng abandon- abandon Ing the ship after being eIn chased by bv a submarine for for- flU fifty minutes There Thero were no casualties According to tho the agents In this country coun try of or the tho Marinas Marina's owners the Donaldson Donald Donald- 1 son line the tho vessel with some fifty Itt American board aboard was S not under charter to tho the Dr Ulah government govern ment mont a as a tran transport port but hut was enn engaged ed edIn In her re regular ular trade as a a. freighter and Carried horses for tho the allies as iv l part of or her general cargo Under such circumstances cir clr- she would be entitled to all the Immunities of any other ether belligerent owned merchantman and an enemy destroying her and anti her contraband cargo cargo cargo car car- go would be he required to make mako due provision provision provision pro pro- vision for Cor the safety of or tho the ships ship's company com corn pany unless she was sunk stink in the act actor of or attempting to escape Apparently all nil depends upon the ac accuracy accuracy ac- ac curac curacy of the first reports whether the Marina actually was attacked without warning or whether she is to be re recorded recorded re- re corded as only onh another of the thc scores of British carriers that have gone hone to the bottom as the tho result of or their skippers skipper's desperate efforts to outrun enemy shells I Will III walt Full ne Until a full report has come coins from I Consul Frost no step will be bc taken b by bythe bythe the state department Frost Is re ro regarded regarded as a thorough h Investigator and I has pla played cd a p part rt in determining the facts In man many of or the mC mot t Important submarine incidents incident including the de destruction destruction do- do of or the Affidavits of or American J survivors are expected from him within a n da day or two Most of or the officials of or the tue department department depart depart- ment mont are inclined to be cr very cry optimistic The They point out that time after atter time first accounts have ha made It appear that thata a n ship hip had been een sunk illegally all and that in over every instance since the Sussex complete complete com corn reports have proved pro that 11 ne mw laws or pledges have been violated b by the submarine destroyer Comparatively little Importance is attached to the case caso of the tho Rowan Rowan- more because It Is admitted that the vessel attempted to escape and only stopped topped after fleeing for tor fifty minutes and having her steering gear Kear shot away awa- There was a heavy to fog at nt the tho time and officials think It would havo have been ca easy y for stricken panic sailors lea leaving their battered ship to have ha Ima Imagined Im mi- a that the submarine was as sending shells In their direction This opinion Is strengthened thenell b by the fact that no one ono w wan vas lost host The Time following Is a summary of Consul Consul Con Con- sul suh Frosts Frost's dispatch The British horse transport Marina with a mixed crew of or British and Americans was reported sunk without warning h by Gorman German submarine gunfire at 3 p. p m. m October 28 8 miles mile west of Cape Clear in an official report re received received received re- re at the state department today from Consul Frost at Thirty four of ot the crow cro of or have been landed ll at Crook Haven while 70 iO others other presumably those In boats 1 I and 3 are missing I |