Show GUE ABOUT ar SHOP STRIKE t. t I f ois lols Central He Head d Grilled b by y Commission on Industrial t Relations POSES FEDERATION PLAN is s. s s. s No Objections to Unions Composed Exclusively of Railroad Men Chicago April 7 A A colloquy about e f honesty honest of oC a man who Who starting 1 the bottom advances ances to the head n a great railroad as compared withe with e e who ho becomes the head of oC a n a great reat or organization or enlivened today's slon Sion of oC the U ed e 3 corn commission lon industrial relations he The argument was between Charles CharlestI tI Markham president of or the IllIn Illinois ls railroad who was on the wits wit wit- Ss s stand practically all aU day and Aus- Aus n B. B B. B Garretson on president of ot the Orr Orr Or- Or r r of ot Railway Conductors and andR a mem- mem r ro of the commission The The great strike of or of oC 1911 i the Illinois Central and other so- so olied o- o lied Harriman lines Mr Markham ted really grew out of or tho the attempt tho American Federation of or Labor Libor r or organize anize the crafts of oC each rail rail- id d system and it was opposed re- re of oC cost f Crafts Craft Ilan Menace 1 The The proposed organization org was a arious rious i-fous menace as if It carried to a 1 logil log log- il I 1 conclusion it would havo have left lert tho the ads and Industries along along- their es helpless s In the tho hands of ot a n. felten few felt en n said Mr Ir Markham railroads the hands But the are arc in n. n few men as It Is Is suggested Mr But they are checked by their re- re to the stockholders to to's tos s 's s and to the public replied the fitness A Ve Are you rou Mr Markham any moro more nest now than when you ou were shoving lug ing coal at Tucson asked Mr Ir Gar- Gar itson Not a bit but my responsibilities no o greater But ut when it comes to the honesty of or ic e c few men who control most things a a man less honest because he chooses labor of the rIse rise through tho the arm business to the presidency In Instead of oC a a. railroad com com- iny Xo No essential difference hypothetical hypothetical- but the history of or the Knights of or bor ibor the tho American R union and milar IT or organizations has been had F Indorse Brotherhoods t Mr lr Markham said that employees of or ofie ore ie e road receive Ills his most sympathetic and that ho he had no ob- ob to unions such as the two of or ens or the con- con as ns the they were all railroad men lift unions which Include both railroads craftsmen were a The rho witness said that he ad- ad at re regular ular rates to get the view levy of or the tho strike fore Core the public If It this system of or organization sue suc- cds eeds in fastening Itself on tho the rall- rall oa ls s you will all be sorry said the |