Show THE SUGAR BOUNTY QUESTION special to the enthusiasm eloquence and oratory hold held away for upwards of two hours tonight at thatchers opera housed house was crowded to its utmost capacity by an aud audience tence attracted there by the debate on the bounty question the participants were F J cannon of the ogden standard and J H paul late associate editor of the Salt Sal Lake herald the battle was fought nobly both si at lea jes evincing a thorough under ata standing anding ot of the subject the people were allowed to he be their own judges as to which side bad won judging from the applause each of the contestants received it would appear as nearly as possible to be a draw promptly at 8 the hon HOD J T hamford stepped to the he front of the stage and said the jefferson club holds that abat bo bounties antles axe are wrong la in principle and pernicious 1 la it practice the term bounty to be restricted to a benefit conferred by a legislature upon an industry the lincoln club homa holds that certain bounties are correction correct in principle principle ciple and beneficial in practice in n behalf of the lincoln club I 1 introduce to you mr F J cannon the appearance of this gentleman elicited loud and prolonged applause mr cannon said the lincoln club of logan recognized certain bounties as right in ha principle ai d beneficial in practice he would argue the question from three stand standpoints pointe viz was the bounty a correct principle rin legally cille was it correct morally mor morally arly was an it correct economically the supreme court of the united states had bad decided the be con of the mckinley bill which grants a bounty bount and a n d this was sufficient for the people of utah who realized that from the decision of the supreme court americans could not appeal to any other earthly court Is the bounty a moral wrong if it shall not up justly oppress one to the advantage of another it if it shall not offend against the moral law engraved upon enduring tablets of brass and pillars of stone but more imperishably upon the heart and mind of advancing humanity of all places upon the face of the earth from the first moment when the earth of the salt lake valley was turned to gods goals sunlight by a wooden ploughshare plough share wr we had learned the moral worth of giving a little that we might enjoy much the community had been morally built up by its system of operative cooperative co support the and grandeur achieved had not fallen to the portion of any favored class was a bounty economically correct it was not in the of the rich but in that of thedoor the poor it made comparatively no difference to the rich whether money was scarce or plentiful that clase always had bad enough and to spare by building up industries and raving from the bankruptcy of excessive importations it would reduce rt duce the price ol of money this would not help the selfish but it would enable the poor man to obtain loans without creeping upon bis bin knees for the privilege of paying fifteen per cent per annum interest terest the speaker then instanced what he termed the deplorable condition into which utah is drifting in one respect declared that every year we are importing more than we export and said that in twenty years more the money lenders of utah would own the territory body and soul he cited instances accompanied by detailed tables or of figures of the effects of the bounty system in france germany and the united states applying the question toutan toU tab he be referred id erred to the immense importation of iron ropp rope cement and sugar and spoke of abb killing of th local bounty bill and its prof paul was then introduced by mr B R W sloan he feared he was no orator J as brutus if pointing to his opponent but he trusted aristed that a few modest unpretentious facts would be qually well received error was the cause of human misery mr cannon had said if he be understood him aright that all ou our r exports to other countries cou n were paid in gold as value for goods received i it was true that what we imported could only be obtained in three ways first fint by stealing by its being given to UP af third j by paying for it we sent seat every cearto china millions of tons tone of wheat what did they pay for it ask aak the school boy he would tell us fire cracken ciack eK P 1 the girl would tell us fant fani I 1 theold the old woman said te I 1 P ask any republican and he would say we are paid in chinese money 11 and yens 11 the word bounty had a wide signi signification fl the republican took the narrowest view of it every democrat should vote against any proposition to establish an industry by bounty but when the bounty exists it becomes a different proposition and he was not surprised to see that several democratic members of the present legislature voted for its continuance we had been charged with trying to kill the sugar industry at lehl lehi had any one offend offered any of them stock for if it had bad been knifed 3 was not the gift of the legislature already given sufficient the sugar factory would not be stopped running unless it failed to pay the owners would not run ruin the concern at a lose why then 1 should the people be required to th the price of sugar did not fall because of the establishment of the utah but when the tariff was wan taken off by means of the mckinley bill a year ago go next april amil did the sugar factory give employment it did to less lees than bands hand handstand and sand for less than three months dionte in the year one thousand dollars invested invented in a farm would alve give employment all the year round if fth the e money invested in the sugar works had been put into fatme farms or more would have been employed factories no longer employed men machinery was waa the order of the days day and the money went into the pockets of manufacturers manufacturer the farmers of utah i bought houge t they would get rich on raising beets in many instances they lost money notwithstanding that it took four times the work of ordinary firm farm labor to raise beets he was in favor of those that support themselves those who should lose loee were the three as who would be gainers the bounty helped beeped the rich not the poor working man for twenty years the sugar trust of america had a mo noply it was said at the outset that competition would reduce the price did it ii they all knew that we always paid from eight to twelve cents per pound while the same sugar sold by the same company realized less than five cents per pound in the worlds world s market ats sold it in the worlds market at four cents per pound and charged us at home eight per pound this was the ideal industry we heard beard so much fuss fuse about at a aja signal ignal from mr paul one of the scenes on the stage was rolled back display displaying inga a whole row of interrogations pertinent to the question under debate ted fed in large black letters on a sheet of white canvass this wis the signal alsol also lor for a tremendous outburst of applause which lasted several minutes prot prof paul occupied exactly one on hour mr ar cannon again occupied thirty minutes in rebuttal the gentleman he said has ham put questions for me to answer aud answered them himself I 1 will see if therm there are not two solutions to his mathematical problems mr cannon then vigorously a tacked ked the theories and figures of prot prof paul and read a cablegram from a leading sugar firm in england giving the prices of sugar in that country as aa compared with prices in utah mr cannon was balled called to ti time by mr sloan and ree resumed timed his seat amid amia great enthusiasm W thus ended without doubt one of the best political debates ever given in utah LOGAN march 3 1892 |