Show CONfLICT IS ALL London No Nov I liberal prime primo mInister today raised the historic struggle bot between the lie lords and tIme tho ot of common to toa toa a now b by ono one of oC the speeches ho he has haa Jie warned time tho lords of the tho grave rIsks risk thoy wore running f th they adopted the tho Lord Lans Lansdowne downe resolution to reject the budget Interest In debate was in Intense tense tenso There wa was not enough room to seat nil all the peers ars attendIng and the tho public galleries l were crowded The Tho Duchess of headed a long list of the foremost mall mallof many of whom wore were compelled to stanl Lord resumed the debate wIth a speech supporting Lord Iani resolutIon after aCter the tho arch archbIshop archbishop bIshop of oC Canterbury had said that the would stand aside from the tho discussIon as aB time the debate was strIctly o of a party Lord lArd followed In a Long speech p h giving the tho lords plain wani lag ing of the danger tn in the tho path the they wro vero Ho He said saidI I ant am Quito dl disassociated lod front from ammy UlY I part and nd from ID enio of t the awful gravity ot of Uw the This Is ia the political moment I I II I I r In the lifetime of any man born since 1842 I Danger In Rejection Lord Roseberry admitted that bY bYthe bythe the letter of the l law w the th house o of lords was competent to reject ct finance hills bills bul sInce the tho reform of 1832 It WM was not Hot possible that thal the commons should i send up a budget which the house of lords should go to the length o of re rc rejecting He considered that the only possIble circumstances justifying the tho lor lords s In c exercising such a dormant power would be the dIrect authority of the nation Itself Such a circum circumstance circumstance stance might arise If a budget were presented presente which lowered the defense or of the country countr to a which thich the tho nation nallon considered ered dangerous i lie doubted Clu t whether the lords were choosing th the best They I were playing for too heavy a stake and risking the very existence of the house of lords A winning policy continued tb would be to allow the budget to lo pass and give the country six months experience of its Ils intolerable I l lus s of reid aud omit om The They would then thon achieve when they next approached the H a victory victor that would surprise them themselves selves ol lie lb looked much hension to the result of an appeal a aho I tho ho country mixed up UI with such Issues as would be raised This Is Real Menace I I do do not speak of menaces he ha heald bald ald The Tho house or of lords has lived on menaces ever eer since I can her bol and amid It Is 18 still thriving lImit But the menaces now used are arc b by mn bent on a single singie cham chamber er Thou TheIl ef efforts forts are revolutionary u in sonco it If not in imm fact Dealing Doolin with the question or of the ro re reform form of the house of lords which lord HO has long ho he tho convIction that nil no final adjustment mont of the tho dIfferences be behL hL en time tho two houses could ever oer be arrived at without some form of ref He denounced the In the tho t terns term md and said that ono I burned Into then them by bitter was that thal there thero should ho hono no taxation representation for Cor that thal maxIm lie he said lost us its tho United States of AmerIca and we are not likely to offend against again t tIt It again ag ln Lord tIme tho budget taxed the lords freely and without their From the tho tone tOile of Q editorials In Lon Len I don morning Thursday papers Lord remarkable oration which from n a rhetoric view point Is universally BIll sally I lauded probablY will have hae slight effect on the of oC the peers is dubbed the tho hamlet of British nM and his hh charac tensile Ie InfirmIty of purpose Is regard oil Ill as Ii having haing received another Ing illustration The rhe proposal which hI he mad ha f serious seriously In the course of hie imI speech that the tho house of lords should d le 1 is of the mot die tIlIs peers to vote on Lans motion ns as being a method more likely to Impress the countr than a large Imse Vote vot of heterogeneous gathering of peers peer man many of whom have hae no claim to distinction and set sel seldom dom attEnded the debates Is corn com Ullon pom ii almost with ridicule The prolongation of the debate In Inthe the tho house or of lords deranged the go gov plans and no decision has been heen reached as to what whal course shall be followed regardIng tIme the dissolution of parliament A movement has been started in fo fa vor sor of u a great political demonstration of of parliament ott on time the night eI of the house of lords lord rejects the budget as the against this action Speech Proves Effective Expressing regret that lint ho he could not support the tho resolution Lord Roseberry Rose Roseberry berry resumed his seal having spoken en for fifty minutes His picturesque and glowing eloquence produced n a tremendous effect leaving his hearers somewhat bewildered There Thero waR a an immedIate exodus of peers leer to discuss time the situation In the thc lobules lobbIes and although time the debate con continued tinned until midnight the rest of the tho speeches took rather the forum form of an annn nn anticlimax Lord spoke of the manner in which time tho bud budget gel was dr log ing capital out omit of the tho country He declared that lint all proposed new taxes were bad and unnecessary All the money required he contended might havo hae been raised b by Import duties not noton on only without Inquiry to business and hut wIth act actual un benefit to both Lord Curzon Speaks Speak Today Lord CurlOn will resume time tho do de debato bato tomorrow It Is impossIble tonight to tonight night to Jud the effect wanting will have It Is known mown ai that a laa large c or of ho un on peers lowe have held gr grave lo doubts as to the tho expedIency or of Lord Lans downes course and thoro thore is 15 almost certain to lo be a large number of oC ab absentees when the resolutIon comes to toa toa a vote The prolongation of the tho debate debato In InI inthe the of lords into next is 15 due to the fact that there Is no I to bring a discussion In Inthis this chamber to a close all time the POOlS peers expressing a desiro to having havinga a full right to do mb so It wa was oil od tonIght that lint the hOIlo of corn com commons mons will adjourn tomorrow until Dee Dec DecI I 1 when Mr Ir Asquith prime primo minister will ill make malte an statement explaining the policy ot the govern m mont nt In view of the tho rejection of time the budget which It Is anticipated Noth oth lug Ing has hns been learned as to what tho ho ministers decided at council beyond boond the tho decision to 10 call caU a party meeting |