Show e i- i F 1 F It VI f It is understood that all opinions views ideas etc that appear in Points West ar are not necessarily the views of any other person except the author of those views and opinions They alone will be beheld beheld beheld held responsible for all re re- percussions To the Editor Two weeks ago I wrote an article which was pla placed ed in the paper in which I I complained complained com com- om- om bitterly about the poorness of the attitude of the Senate and how I felt they were feeling sorry for them them- selves Today I wish to let the students know that for the past two weeks the Senate has really gotten it together I went to the next two meetings that the Senate has had and was surprised and happy to find that there was no more biting back-biting and feeling sorry for oneself They have begun again to work very hard to get it together together to to- together gether for you the student of My congratulations to Tom Mayhew Executive Vice President for the good j job b he has done Seeing the confusion confusion confusion ion of the S Senate na te that was beginning beginning beginning be be- ginning to formulate Tom sat down and set setup up some rules and guidelines which he felt should be standard for forthe forthe forthe the Senate to follow The senate senate senate sen sen- ate has followed these rules and is proving efficient again KEEP IT UP SENATE SENATE SENATE SEN SEN- ATE SM To Editor In enrolling in this school I thought that every teacher had a job of being able aole to teach the students Every teacher I have had is and has done a very good job in doing his in helping me learn except for one teacher His name is Mr Hall Mr Hall in my opinion has proven tome tome to tome me that he is unable to todo do his part in teaching the architectural architectural tural program In the classes that I have had with Mr Hall being the instructor I have had to listen to tap tapes s of his Buddy Dave Hatfield more than once These tapes have nothing to do with the class so to me this is a valuable time In a drafting lab I had Mr Hall again as the I tor I was war given a lower grade than was shown to me I received an A on my drawings and received a D Don on my report card There was no tests or any other material covered in the class so to me I was graded very unfairly especially when other people in the class got a alow alow low grade and received a higher one on their report card In Iq my opinion this shows that Mr Hall favors the students students students stu stu- stu- stu dents he likes and the ones he dont ont like he e gives them a avery avery avery very hard time so they will not graduate In a strength and materials class classI I had Mr Hall again being the instructor tor the class again having to listen to tapes of his friend David Hatfield wasting valuable val vat valuable time again I received an E out out- of this class In my opi opinion ion it was a very unjust unjust unjust un un- just grade because I did know how to do the assign assign- ments I I. received an E on all my tests I r dont don't know why because I did do the work and the answer was right Mr Hall would write little letters to me telling me meto meto meto to come down for help and ad when I would go down to his office for help he would ask m me questions like Why dont don't you like me What could we do ib better our relationship relationship relationship relation relation- ship To me m-e this is nothing nothing nothing noth noth- ing but BULLSHIT If I I 1 am supposed to go down to his office for help I expect help not a session in psychology And in class if you had a question he would tell you Come and see me at my I consultation hour and would not explain it to yo you in class All he would do is read from the book I got that crap in first grade at story time This is not first grade but what Mr Hall has showed me that's where he should be teaching if he could handle it But in receiving the E out of the class I I could not progress progress pro pro- progress gress any farther as far as structures was concerned I Iwas Iwas Iwas was supposed to graduate this June but thanks to Mr Hall I am not able to graduate graduate graduate grad grad- this June But I I hoped that I could challenge the class but Mr White and Mr both denied the chance to challenge the class I thought this was very unfair and it upset me very bad Its It's too bad that a school with a a good reputation like this school has to have 2 or 3 instructors that screw it up for everybody Its It's very disappointing disappointing disappointing dis dis- dis- dis appointing that these 2 or 3 instructors have to screw up someone's future just because because because be be- cause of a personality con con- When something like this happens action should be taken and the instructor in- in in instructor n- n fir fired d' d dor d'or or something of the kind Mr Hall also grades qui quite te a bit on a attendance atten tOOn- attendance dance but he is absent more than the students are and th then n when he would come comeback comeback comeback back and give us a test on material we hadn't even covered covered covered cov cov- ered yet In speaking first to Walt White and then Jim in seeing if anything could be done to help settle the problem I I. I in my y opinion re received nothing b but t a big snow job I and oth other r students students students stu stu- stu- stu dents pay a quarter to learn not to receive the harassment harassment harassment har har- and bullshit we have been getting I am hoping ng that in the f future ture this this' school does not allow instructors of this unprofessional calibre to teach here and the ones we have we can get rid of Sig Signed ed A very outraged student Pete Ho Holtkamp P PS S Mr Hall you owe all the students all your time not ot each student a minute and a half It is understood that all opinions views ideas etc ek that appear appear in Points West are not necess necessarily rily the views of any of-any any other person except the theauthor theauthor theauthor author of those views and opinions They alone will win be beheld beheld beheld held responsible for all re re- re- re percussions Edi Editor tor Why do I have to put up with from one teacher Im I'm not talking about just once or twice but quarter aft after r quarter J I have been required to take at l least ast astone one major class and sometimes sometimes sometimes some some- times 2 classes from Ken Hall architectural instructor tor every quarter for the last 5 quarters and every quarter quarter quarter ter I l have to go thru the same thing TOTAL HARRASS HARRASS- MENT First off he plays favorites favorites favorites fa fa- fa- fa and to make sure that s- s he can play god he doesn't g grade ade on just your test sc scores res resor or on your drawings but on attitude and a multitude of other things that tha t he uses to base his grades upon so that in my opinion he can give the grade he wants and woe unto any that fall from grace for forthe forthe forthe the wrath of god will des- des cent upon your report card Secondly every quarter we have been subject to listening to profane tapes of private te conversations between him and a friend of his in California California California Cali Cali- fornia talking about such arch subjects as Third in his structures classes and strength of material material material mat mat- erial class of which he is the only instructor he grade tests A or E no matter if it involves 1 lor or 10 problems its it's A or E until report card time when he gives whatever grade he wants This is supposed supposed supposed sup sup- posed to be a learning experience experience experience exper exper- at school so if you make 1 mistake in ten questions questions questions ques ques- should you get an E Iwonder I Iwonder Iwonder wonder if that's even legal pass fail when we didn't sign signup signup signup up for a pass-fail pass class After this is printed Ill I'll probably be dropped from his class as when I went to Mr White and Mr and didn't get any results just a white wash job he threatened threaten threaten- ed to kick me out of school and was very abusive trying to blame blam me f for r his in my opinion poor te teaching ching Why cant can't s something be done about this Why do students students students stu stu- stu- stu dents have to put up with teachers s like this Why does the school tolerate te teachers like this If I dont don't receive my test scores for a final grade I feel my only recourse is the State Board of Regents or my Ut Ute St. St legislator and the student Since Sincerely ely T. T W W. Chateau March 4 1978 The Editor Editor- To If I may enter a few words in your newspaper may I Isay Isay Isay say I should think as students of a college you would woul want wanta a newspaper to tell you of sports events social activities activities activities ties news of your teachers meetings scheduled etc even to a rebel editor Your paper is one of interest interest interest inter inter- est to me as a parent in order to try to understand today's today's to to- today's days day's youth and remember you are youth to me I have never felt that I ever had a generation gap with any of my children and that includes includes includes in in- my loveable reb Fred I do not believe foul langua lan lan- e is in news news- f gua necessary B f paper work but then again I Ido Ido Ido do not believe it is necessary in anyone's daily language or means of communication However even English teachers teach teach- ers who should have a perfect perfect perfect per per- call on the English language language language lan lan- guage find it difficult here to teach their students without swearing or using foul lang lang- This really amazes me That brings the teacher down to the students student's level ra rather ther than the bringing the student student- up to the teachers teacher's level Apathy complacency why so much finding fault with your editor Utah is full of it To Steve Sanders I might reply he may have a good point as to cartoons and whether he has time to read the newspaper and naturally natural natural- ly with his schedule he has no notime notime notime time for active participation tion in school activities BUT there are many who can Students in colleges remind remind remind re re- re- re mind me of voters in elec elec- Have you ever worked worked worked work work- ed in a campaign and tried to get voters out to vote Well try it sometime You offer a ride from door to door at a time convenient to the individual individual individual indi indi- vidual yet there is always an excuse or an alibi Too bad the real voters couldn't cast castmore castmore castmore more ballots cause the non- non voters after the elections sit at home and gripe about what they think or feel their respective governments ought to do whether it be city county state or nation Just think about it The one onena na nation tion with a God-given God law of freedom and people repel it This is what complacent students do in a college they find fault with their teachers administrative heads and nd students trying todo to todo todo do something Oh by the way I do read Points West ignoring smut and foul language but Fred has always been a writer or poet or essayist whatever and Im I'm proud to be his Mother PS I enjoy the paper The poetry is real good and credit cred cred- it should be given to those who write it its it's a means of expressing thoughts |