Show I 1 THORNING 7 T FORAKE 11 I 1 the house committee di digging L r in into that forger forgery I 1 diem ElI DEICE is 13 I 1 1 jol ind through II 11 III the little ban man on B horseback etts an sture I 1 I 1 swelling lug 46 1 jan 18 ex GOT gov arnor foraker resumed his statement before the house committee in the ballot box forgery today to day on cross examination foraker said be had been on friendly relations with senator bherman sherman last summer s and din in fact never bad been bem on an any 0 other ther I 1 terms wih him that he knew of he lie did not know that senator sherma herman fe n WAS in this country when ha lie got the forged paper he ile had not mentioned the paper to AIcKin mckinley ley or butterworth his ilia relations had always been plea ant aith ith the former and with the latter ip lip to the time of his ilia witness 1 nomination witness ila hal hai hal no cusp cion as to wood integrity grosvenor asked if the witness did not think it strange that after wood eaid paid he lie had the paper august 13 be should hae have baffled the witness so and delayed its production oolong BO long witness did not think he wai baft battled led and attributed woodi wood delay to his reluctance to give up the tile paper witness V iness somehow pot got the impression it was in cLeatis 31 mi leans custody i rosenor asked if be supposed mclean would willingly g pe i up a paper that injure gre campbell in the campa campaign ivil b he ile had not at the time the slightest doubt of the ge genuineness of me kin leys or indeed a ly of the signatures Gro grosvenor wellor askey asked if governor campbell Oam before tile cami agi a gi gai had bad not borne rne a yowl good reputation witness replied he be did not know him until he was nominated from that moment ho lie heard beard no end of tones stories about him and ended ende 1 I I 1 by getting a bad opinion of him grosvenor Gro Groe senor enor ai keil if i lie was not surprised to see that senator sherman ha I 1 much such a paper witness replied that hia his mind had bail ben so fre prepared arad at r believing McK AIcKin Soley ley and anti butter borth had signed it that he might aim adwell ell believe sherman hid bad a 8 ened it for lie had as good an all old opinion of them aa as anybody Gro grosvenor evenor aka aikem why witness had not communicated with w ith some of the persons aioge wt ow names were ere on the paper before taking furth futh r stepi he ile replied when he lie pot the paper sherman and butteworth Bulter Butter worth orth mere w ere beyond the ocean and it had not lime time to communicate with w ali them ho lie was in the midst of the tile campaign makenz speeches As fo to AI kinley tic lie did not know what he lie mi lit fit have done if he be had retained pale os arion of the piper paper to make any use ue of it but his signature t e seemed co FO conclusive he lie 1 bad n no G doubt a abigt b out it it would seem rather indelio nae ale to go to a man mail t you believed guilar guilty ai at d talk about the tile matter he lie cou could C d be expected to deny his guilt of chirse and then toi too before lie got through with it lie bad had found a man halstead who ho knew just what to do with tile alie 1 paper I e Witt less had told wood V he aid nit know what to do with the tho pa x r eaid campbell ll had haach chang nad d that he witness was int interested ersted in the ballot bal ot box matter and referring to wito eis statement about a millon mil ion bollara of trust money in in the bill fr somebody lial hall paid noboa nobody but an scoundrel wo would uly make such suet a statement witness read that speech on his life way to the hall at mariet a where lie t e was as to speak that night inight and felt it due to himself liim to make answer thereupon Ther euion euron for the first time and the only time in in the campaign lie referred to lie file paper he ile said paid in as much as the tile matter bad been made publia e he be had seen those ose papers rs and in his judgment campbell never would deny that signature he ile was as pais ralie fied of that I 1 not only because of th the e faith be he had I 1 in n the signature but because of campbells speech which 0 beadlike read like a confeson conf ewon emion of guilt he ile campbell did not deny bi big IS signa ture saying he lie could not do so until t he lie got some other ens grosvenor Gro avenor asked if before wore that time hal hall seen senator shermans Sher mans published denial and witness said paid probably he lie bad had not been seen ft it william L walters walter of utica mich was wan sworn aej and said he lie met wood in washington in Sept september embr r and at bis his request had ila pr procured 0 c for him a copy of the tile I 1 ballot box bill introduced in the house by campbell of ohio wood waa was viry vc rv anxious to find a page w who ho had bail an atio graph alamin to bell sell he lie find one but bat witness finally managed to acure for wood the auto autographs gr phe of or several congressmen and senators e including nc luding thoe those of butterworth merw ter worth all A mckinley ak inley and john sherman wood wool had hall told witness he wanted he the autographs first to pu lutat the foot of photographs and then t to compare with the names on a oo 00 contract I 1 or as wood wool termed it a la land deal richard 0 wood wai wag him sworn he lle gave his ills evidence as cincinnati and hie his occupation an as a mechanical expert the chairman handed witness exhibit A and asked him it he had ever been ell it before witness rato n zed the document he ile first mawle before the election he lie thought in Os oc tober he ire had hall git gt the heading drawn in general limes limeys Bir office in fit this city the names were written on the this paper in cincinnati by mr wilward war d ia OL young man named davis 0 wrote the tire lines opposite the signatures this work was done in tir lh office of murray who is is patent solicitor for the ballot box com company pally chairman are ursa names f fac re P of the auto gr gra plia apha witness they were written according to pieces of piper paper I 1 had lied secured the witness gave a humorous account of his attempts to be appointed T anted smoke inspector fie ile bad had seen governor foraker and anti the latter told him he lie could get him the place if it etere not pledged the governor said he wanted anted witness to do a little hustling ora or a favor tor for dimand him and witness aked what he could do and foraker sald there was wan a little document drawn in Butter office and lie wanted witness to get it and let him see pee it witness could not imagine what document lie meant and asked him the governor gO replied do yon you see what butterworth is doing for the republican lic n party witness replied lie noticed that butterworth butter worth was acting peculiarly and deemed to be rather posing tor for the cincinnati the governor had said batter u t ter worth was making all kinds of stabbing talk and said if butterworth wanted to doubt him as disreputable he be would show him what it waa was to bo be disreputable foraker had said you know it is common talk that butterworth iu to in every scheme and witness bad hall arte agreed ed with the governor and said II 11 t the he stabbing business was going on he guessed they could stab too I 1 I 1 I 1 it I 1 1 1 1 I 1 1 witness then gave along a long description of his attempt to see the tile governor in relation reli tion to his life appo i and created a burst of laughter b by ya a chance allusion to president as old his name wood admitted getting up the paper and said the governor did not ask any questions n a witness had bad aid kaid it was the tile best ho he could do and it would do to bluff those fellows the governor promised promis eol not to have the paver published about ten ton days before the publication h IIA met the governor goer nor coming out of the commercial gazette 0 ofhie tile 9 I 1 and foraker taid said he had be been n talking g to and that the la latter t was going to rip hone those fellows witness W said the paper was not gotten up tip for such a burpoe and anti told the governor do not show allow that man abeso apers a pers 11 raker foraker replied N not 0 t tio for r 1 the lie world 11 after 1 the publication of the piper japer murray told witness he be would mould make an affidavit I 1 that they were forgeries if wit get it back wood told the governor this and the governor replied ho he had lad not intended it should be published but that a man got it from ins his secretary when he the tile arnor vat wa away the tile governor had adde addel old man me w e have got ourselves in a bole hole I 1 dont know whether bether I 1 am to be eleaer ele ted or not we will retract that I 1 dont know what to do at present but rest assured it will be retracted witness said you better ba in liveli elv orAl or murray urray will make the affidavit 11 the tile governor asked wood to come to wash vast ington to hunt bunt up the gun contract and that lie ile would attend to the matter when wood came back to cincinnati lie asked the return of the papers and foraker told him to go to ll li alstead for them witness insisted that they should not be any more foraker promised promie ed abey would no bo be within 43 hours the whole thing w was as pub liili lish lii li d 1 again witness was as arrested fur libel and was obliged to give up his paper papers the chairman chii irman askel if anybody but witness knew he had dra drawn n up the papers he ile replied that governor foraker certainly knew from what he witness told him that the papers were not genuine lie ile did n not ot charge foraker with kno knowing ing the paper wa was 0 a for foracre acry he lie could not do that he could nt not a ty entered into a conspiracy Chairl chairman nAn did dif he lie ask you to caimmi a forgery witness 1 I did not nek him whether I 1 should commit a forgery 1 I tie tle added ad led ehst foraker wanted to g get et hoi hold I 1 of a pap r to adt equal e with bill buttrworth and litno witness B s agreed to get it tor for him it was not dot to be published but to be ell shown own around al headquarter etc the chairman if witness had procured ared a for forgery gerv wood replied that babaa gotten up a paper tor for foraker and if he could maky etke nytody believe it was ine me a all cht lie ile believed he w was as being played and bop hocq d the tile poll ticiano would get it iloco 0 ug without bis his help hereafter ahia closed the examina examination tim ex governor G vernor 1 foraker paid said he desired to ask no question and grosvenor asked the witness to bo present on monday |