Show THE PRESIDENT ON THE WITNESS STAND w ho E sot neither aws ho A ROUND TALE connection with he AND KNOWS NOTHINGS c ESI TODAY TO DAY the fraud shown vp sl V V to tl new YORK fob at a mooting of alie committee investigating the d es samuel J tild en v war sworn by mr hunton who saidu tilden we ro your note your to testify the publication and in alio naw york paper I leavo read I didiot wr ABI A BI agle an fn cypher or translation which I biad over seen before I never en any to purchase alie voto of florida ilar no nc suspicion that any such cro bang on until I SAW alie in alie now york tir jaw iivo no knowl with any par liea to these negotiations never authorized zed any such negotiations in fany lorm whatever on the morn ing v ach col pel toi mentioned in my presence hit her husband had gone for alio day I did not know he lia d gono or wan going out of alie city lie went to philadelphia I believe later in lie day on by sir caoper who was on alio wiy down town and was told by h nn liu had received an from some party on cring to obtain for the vota of south carolina isaid I would authorize no such trail faction nor spend money t oraby lucli M alio conversation occupied only a few mi I obtained col Pel tons address in baltimore BAlti moro and telegraphed him to come home I know nothing of the ciphers that had been pa biting between him and others and I not have translated them with TO I never saw ano of alie either in cipher or translation I did not know was not informed that negotiations were going on in regard to illegally obtaining the of the returning board I never saw any of relating to florida outlier in cipher or tranada kioh in regard ta alio oregon di patches idid edid not know flioy camo in cipher until the mooting of alie corn matteo to investigate them boino of tho dispatches were addressed to my residence 15 park I do not know that any of these dispatches were even delivered there col Pelton habits of mind and mine are very different A day ortho after the election gun grant wrote a letter recommending that a committee go to the south to see a hiir count il biad nothing todo with alie selection of the committee never bieard from them but once and eliat a communication inca by cr and others tho idea that they were my personal agents alicy represented the democratic party of so far as I know went to these states author ased mcdo anything that gentleman not doi from tho ath of november until december ath lauia year under no circumstances did Letor into any competition for seeking certificates by venal indaco jewe bover was an hour or a minute eliat I entertained such a thought to tho people who as L believe elected me of Sta tet to four million citizens WHO rowed ft to proc lulin eliat I would little of my right whatever evils may result from ehlt of tho system of free I rc solved I would enter into no action for tho pur chao of alia tracy chacra tho chair suy praised sed I was revolved thit I would alio wrong by ilni pomplo acro defrauded out of their rights tilden bc nig aided abo ia your private oco W smith ho biad no knowledge of alio following telegram NovaT th to 15 bark it haa loen fugg osted from hero to alio governor of oregon to from a certificate in favor of nn ineligible elector until ther why not obtain and tole graph oconnor tt opinion aco my lix M ho alio until alie tribune published mm private secretary ucher showed lihn any of dia luciow that he had n cipher know nig of alio cipher when pelton returned aiom baltimore aid to luin about hi aution and lie made no reply sot from him ro information about tho ciphers until thoy were dibut believe pelton iad any power lie had no authorization edward cooper told me had i apropo to get vota for money but palton I never heard of any attempt to bril in uny birst lera of tle florida bribery froin marble ho mentioned 1110 oid genvo no detail and I made no inqui ric I inide iio inquiries of paton about I corrupt cor propositions interest I it VM in stopping it ceaud to reside in my aboul january firt enado no ceafie being my iny dai but did not auk liviu to ro dign I kept up no confidential re weed and knew nothing ofha tence in koutsi car olini intend nothing from lulu of this proposition o buy I had not th towards weed tilden eaid lie biad re latrona hikoro goin to almlda lo 10 called to bid him good bye there wa nothing in at tlc alc beiring on tel in hia interview with cooper thai ho had no iden of accepting the apropo clae bott nor was it them ur thought of for a moment A FOR ho was tho last man in the world lie tildon would have selected if lie had intended to enter into such w electoral votes lie afta naked eliy iu lus card to the public ho did not refer to tho baltimore it was not pertinent Q do yott not asseo statement that you had no knowledge of alio through the trifle w likely to deceive you had hoard of tho baltimore lie got uit ions tilden answered that lie did not know of the cipher telo grau which had pawed on alio llio subject ifor of anny negotiations butwid know there biad awn an kofl er in south carolina which lie had put an end to by liis intervention I made my statement in accordance with alio truth Q did you intend to convey the ide t that you had no knowledge of at I did not intend to iuey iden ori the subject I had been advised by a hundred people to do ono tiling and did not think it eiry to to alio fidot of the baltimore tra inaction in reply to a very able and celoso examination by who conducted this portion of the examination and alio occasionally requested tildon ty be frink but failed to get an wiliie sM no conversation at the third national bank with smith weed prior to alio departure for north or south carolina I continued alio examination of Tilden Q when a dispatch was in new york dying you aru im periling pe riling alio result hero and advis nis that some man should bo faunl who could bo for a week did vou ever see tho dispatch A I did Q dilyou not know eliat information had hero in a dis to ark had one A I heard so said this m for alie benefit of the whole people and asked had you any information at that timo that alio returning boards of south carolina or florida for sale and will you give tiiu name of your informant tilden said cant give you any name I santo it on evidence that would convict anyone I ak you again to civo me any evidence you avo thit tonito libarda acro being corrupted by isu publican jn I limit you up to tho time of alio final action of the boards I have no ovid enco up to lint time nhit I learned waa from investigation he admitted that up ato alie timo pelton wont to Baltimore lio had nono except newspaper knowledge about the alleged corruption of Republic ansi in dealing with the returning boards question do yon know whether or not any largo sum of money was baited by the new york which might bo used for political purposes I am now speaking of after the election answer no except when alio committee waa in debt I cant say whether money was raised for political purposes or not Q you know that pelton diw in communication with weed and others in alio south answer no clieo never iny knowledge came to my bouc did nut xeo tho dispatch referred to did not soo alie dispatch to aco W smith say iii my dispatch dis pitch to Q governor you learned from cooper and could have learned from pelton that your hid been engaged in n transaction tran action connected with the obtaining of vote in north and did you not feel upon to find out col relations to tho national committee A I thought the beat way to act in alio matter was to top it I thought something of the Florida case Q you have said if you had any ilca of influencing these boards venally alie bot person you could have chosen would have been col palton why did you not doom it proper to call cooper a or Hei villi attention to the ask to aalto charge of alie matters lest pelton might compronio comp romio tho democratic general committee A I supposed eup posed they had full knowledge and would be ablo to tako care thit nothing wrong should bo done the at eliat time waa full of rumors of fraudulent returning boards I and my country that tho of loui aiana and florila Flo iila acro bought meaning by I would scorn and condemn dinv inv ti cleif the Doino cratic p airty od my abat by fraud bildon lio hal received no special information alie exi of locial proceeding edini in alie disputed states suppo od tho national coin mittro to iaci c ti lings had been ti extent A patron of mflton he tho u butter way alton to acl tobin alio national committee wa cucci he ft courry would befit better in florida than what was dono there hiscock objected to the latter part of liia answer mid said lie thought alio llio witness ought to ix nl lowed to aniber fully hancock thou glit no alio but wi kioa not go out ot to attack pera ons tilden baid a certain get a high titan oi morality lio proposed to analyze that standard and if they lived up to it themselves tilden continued col palton thought it excusable to tight fire with fin and adopt alio tactic i of the enemy Id lons act wan an inchoate of fence alio on alio other tide were add gave tho to A MAN SOT lUCT not attempt to excuse col aelton the latter did not act to lait own of llin cook alint evidence lio any botex or cortin catt acro bought by tho rilda n haid alu evidence win bo foro alic in tho of llis cock dm Til doit arp you entirely clear eliat mclin w encee in liin action by alio liopo of an A I badir PO by iny best I believe I protect myself fully without going into in attern iny lankily relation IIi acock atad you fany infozina in forina lion at time that tho returning board of south and florida waa for mile live alie naino of alio alio told you A cant give you the iwanio of any man I state it on evidence that would convict any ono it appeared in thep apere we will now go back to the ilni pelton ask you again to chiv me any evidence you bueti that tho io were corrupted by SQ I limit vow up to the timo of the final action of the boards A I have no evidence op to that time what tc learned was investigation tildene attention waa directed to dispatch no 34 NOT 22 col pelton 15 gramercy paik wooley asks me tr pay let forces he got together immediately in readiness for eitnier here or in eliy do you not answer signed tilden I dont the dispatch menus I dont know that rny largo cum of money ans by alia democrats in new york afler the election for pur posco except when the national commit tco was in debt attention to tele pram no 11 from new york ad to smith weed at columbia ii aind signed denmark in which occurs glicr kiy and make i one portion payable after votes are cat and another portion after linal re milt tilden said pelton did not consult him in alio matter and he did not know pelton was in communication with weed and others in alio south tildan closed by stating cheso telegrams never with my knowledge came to my house A tilden wan leaving alie chair hunton remarked us returning boards acro for sale perhaps it is fair to conclude the sue efful party were alio purchasers laughter heed quickly I object to eliat remark of alio and aak eliat it be withdrawn lia irin iii I it not a logical from alio but without for an answer ho withdrew his remark hixt WITS krai E L currii testified that ho went to florida aa a lawyer to see eliat matter were properly conducted the telegrams addies ted to tildon were intended for alio national committee goo W smith private secretary of tilden to every meation moa tion regarding alio dis iio could not remember said lie biad no it collection at all of any of the W smith private secretary to gov tilden the next witness was handed tole ram 39 addressed by to the government of oregon him to refrain from 11 cort incato to an election Q do you remember it or anything about it A I do not Q I suppose alm alio anwer you intend to give to all these other A I h mi no recollection of any tole grami at nil laughter Q ans gov tilden in albany between nov and dec cali A I cannot recall it Q now be sure A I leave 01 I leavo already stated no recollection of any of these telegram i do you remember alio telegrams signed A yes I do they in I waa out of town while a number of them received they wore opened by one of the directors Q did alio directors intercept your telegrams A my private telegrams were not opened but alio cipher ones were that it all we are much obliged to you for your information the committee went into executive session decided to eximina ex no more and left in alio |