Show FISH STRIKES BACK AT RAILROAD KING I Declares Harriman Also Borrowed Borrowed Bor Bor- rowed Money From Coffers I of Illinois Central I CAUSE OF FIRST FIRST TROUBLE I J New Yorker Says Tactics of I Westerner Caused Break Deposits Were Safe New ew York Feb Ib 2 27 L Fish today made mt the following follo state slate men t regarding charges which J K g. H II I hurt i ma n preferred ed 1 yesterday c erday before lefore the lie Interstate Commerce commission I I shall not be le t drawn into a wrangle I with that gentleman lIe He anti and I sustained stan sus close for fOl many years anti and were Jointly Interested In lit man many lIars-e. large affairs All of the tr as Indeed all transactions in which I have hav over V l' l engaged will bray bra I th the clo closest s ci I j 1 l It t was at m 0 my that Mr 11 h. h r. r harriman was made a director o of the Ill Illinois I Contra ent ia I a and we Wl vi got gut along along- quite to well tell until hI he became ambitious to tomake tomake make mak the Ill Illinois C Central a part of or Ili Ih he- he Union Pacific system I didn't beHove believe be bl lie Hove this would wO be JC in the th Interest of stockholders of the Illinois Central for rOl whom r T held hold a trust and then and arul th there re Mr Harriman anti and I parted com corn pany I In Sonic Smut Hunt hoot He lie r Is quite rJ right ht in saying that I borrowed fun funds from the Illinois Central Cen Cn 1131 but hut he lie should have ha added that th the loan was made at a tune lime wh when n we Wl were most anxious to lu I put hut out nut some onH of tho ho surplus thai hint I J hunted from oni rom lank bank to bank to 10 loan bali out money that this lila particular paz par loan Joan was made on oil collateral which wan was ample cud marketable thai lint several o of the other ti d directors ors borrowed hort Ira from flom to tho tile CO company 10 pany in the lilt same sanie way wan did and finally that Mr 11 I himself l while n a director had hod borrowed from lom th the company In In I precisely the lie samo manner frequently and In sums um n aggregating rt several ral millions mil niI- lions of dollars As 8 s a ma matter of b business I did not nol then lien rC regard It Il a as aN Improper r nor mba do tin 1 I now When In 10 the tho fall of nf 1903 I 1 1 tIe dp sired llred to repay y the debt I proposed cl t o Ct anew new nt loan loar from Ion KuhiK 1 ll U 1 lI rr 1 11 i Ty J Jt fc tn 1 ol u n f f ir t nH I t U J it f il ii-il i Is' Is I an C lh the thi sl tho tl I Trust t Company of or tho th J i lt tt should be aIti that i institutIon Institution n I 1 WR o nf 01 th the man many matly New Neit York Tori trust tt II companies with which Wi we C aJ ac- ac J counts th that l. l the sums on ott Jt I 2 with general rol conditions lr our our- l y tM huge bu Is ln vis I that lint rt n no pudding of tr accounts by bya a mo m. 0 Ieno lt wl Iii In In Danger tiger tI The deposit flo Jt was wn never r In danger I r I was a t trustee bf the l Trust Company or of the but InH never un uli officer Concerning the the acquisition llon of the In Indianapolis Southern railway it it Is only 11 necessary to rl refer refea tl to the lie records o of lh the Illinois Central nI which will show ho that Ill my action nellon was t-as fully an and formally a approved oved J IIo b by th the tho d directors Irr It was vas rumored in the tue Interstate Commerce hearing tOlla today that Mr Ir Fish h had retained ll Samuel I to b suit against HarrIman for 01 his Ita statements I t James B. B Dill of his personal counsel coun coun- sel sd denied the rumor but a titled titled- The only basis lot foi lotha 01 the ha stor story y was the lie summoning lJ by Mr lr Fish of the stockholders of or the thc Illinois C Central to discuss l tIlt the advisabIlity df or bringing suit against t the directors Mr JI Unter- Unter myer antI and I J od ng against such a n our course and there the Ulf matter mattei rests I I |