Show FRANCE CE AND ANI n THE CHURCH In Indianapolis News New's If we wo nu may be behove believe he- he hove lieve that the thc lie Chamber of Deputies Is really a representative body wo we can only conclude that the lie people of France Franc arc heartily I In favor of oC the governments government's policy polly of effecting nn aim en- en n I liro Uro separation bf between tween church and state For yesterday the governments government's pro program ram was Indorsed by a vote voto of 39 to tn 96 The situation Is complicated by Ii J the fact that the tho Pope POI claims to 0 bo 10 a so en sovereign IOse possessing full temporal tem teni- Il 1 power If ho Is a to sovereign ho lie hoIs lieis Is to France France- Francea a foreign sO sovereign Thus Thug the he people of France are subjected to the greatest There Thelt Is no more fervidly loyal people leOPle on earth than 01 the tho Fr French Broadly speaking they the are 01 also devoted l. to the he Roman Homan Catholic church Time The situation Is thus ono one In which the they will have havo to choose between church and country The Tho Is- Is V A I Is presented In the tho sharpest possible POl- POl pos pos- sible sibil way And we ve have havo no rio doubt that many a Frenchman Is deeply grieved to be placed place in iii such a 1 diemma dilemma For now nov the tho church is iR arrayed not against a certain policy olle but against tho the law of France Frano Itself Itself The Tho Pope says that time French churches churche are prepared for fOl all ni kinds of pers persecution und and that they have alrea already y shown the power poet of resistance they possess The Popo thus thu n asserts time the right right and and he could coull hardly help doing so holding the tho views that he does loes of the nature of oC his office office-of of of pa passing sing on laws enact enact- d b by tIme thc government of a 0 sovereign power The rums French bishops s seem scent em to take lake a less leR extreme position for the they nave have resolved d to the tho of or orthe hn e oppose policy the ho government without transgressing the time law Jaw lImit But Bu the time policy of the tho gay gov- go Is now embodied In tho tha separation sop sep ep- ep law and amid all al that hot It seeks to todo todo todo do Is to enforce the law How Ho lucre can bo opposition to time the policy nolie without without with with- out opposition to the law it I I Is not easy 10 to t see soe O It I seems to us that back of everything everything every ever thing there Is a a great reat question of that will wi ultimately have han to tobe tobe be je determined Or rather there thele al are arc two wo principles One Is as to esta- esta churches There can be no doubt that thal there Is a strong ten tendency in n many countries against church es establishments es- es In England EIg the churchmen churchmen church church- men omen are preparing for disestablishment disestablishment disestablish disestablish- ment ment Maim Many lany of them bent indeed favor favol It l There is a conflict In Spain between church and state slate And In Franco France as ve we have seen separation has already been effected The rhe American Amerian principle of a R free fre church In a free Cree state which he time great grent Cavour advocated for Italy Ialy Is s winning I Its wa way a It I ma may sooner than nan we ve think become the prevailing pre principle The rho other thing is the possibility pos pos- of governments consenting consenting to tolie tl he lie establishment of oC any church even church even it If f the they admit the thc desirability of or l that that 1 im y not national Rulers Rulers Rul Rul- ers era and peoples are likely ely to grow more and more unwilling to share theIr heir sovereignty nt with wih any foreign po- po This Is the serious question queston in n France at ot the present moment The French Drench people for Instance would not b be permitted to antagonize their government gov- gov or to set themselves against a law of or the state tate Many of oC them are aro asking whether a confessedly foreign power po er shall be permitted to do what I s forbidden to the time people Governments Governments Govern Govern- ments can cnn hardly hardt continue to permit foi theror church hurch or orl l tule O I 10 theli l t them hem It I is to be hoped that a settlement may be reached reache that lint will be he fair fall to al all For a n war between betteen church and tate state is at least not edifying But Dut the Is certainly serious The Time government gob gov go mn may have gone too fust fast and anti now low be bo severe over-severe in Its dealing with ho the church chuich which I Is the time church of or orthe the he people But Dut there thero are many who ho that the present Pope Pop Is lacking In n tho those e statesmanlike qualities which ha have been so o highly developed Inmany in inmany many ninny of his predecessors ol He lie le Is In Inart part art responsible for fO the time present 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